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This whole asset thing probably wouldnt stand up in a court of law.

The riders are self employed and are contracted to a club. But in what other walk of life could you not be paid/ used by club the following year but still be contracted to them and they decide whether you make a living or not . Riders should be signed on a determind time related contract 1 or 2 years then free to move on or sign on again. If not required for say second year they get released from there contract. Thats how it would happen in the real world but forgot speedway is a micky mouse club run by people detatched from reality.

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This whole asset thing probably wouldnt stand up in a court of law.

The riders are self employed and are contracted to a club. But in what other walk of life could you not be paid/ used by club the following year but still be contracted to them and they decide whether you make a living or not . Riders should be signed on a determind time related contract 1 or 2 years then free to move on or sign on again. If not required for say second year they get released from there contract. Thats how it would happen in the real world but forgot speedway is a micky mouse club run by people detatched from reality.

Absolutely, but needs a test case to make it happen just as Bosman did in football.

 

Going back quite a few years I think it was Jason Crump who threatened to 'blow the whole system wide open' when he wasn't getting his way to sign for whoever. Never happened though.

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Absolutely, but needs a test case to make it happen just as Bosman did in football.

 

Going back quite a few years I think it was Jason Crump who threatened to 'blow the whole system wide open' when he wasn't getting his way to sign for whoever. Never happened though.

On a similar theme,if there is supposed to be free movement of people and workers within the eu how on earth can the polish authorities stop polish riders being employed in the premier league.Maybe the Borders Agency needs to look at a bit more than just Aussie riders.This sport is just a legal joke and it needs a few test cases to sort out the whole bloody mess.

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tony rickardsen thretend to take his parant club (ipswich i think) to court under the bosman rule if they didnt let him out on loan they soon gave in

regardless off team or rider if a club owns a riders contract then i think they should have option of using them or letting out on loan or put them up for sale similar to that dreaded game foot ball to many riders sign for the richer clubs and never ride for them

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This whole asset thing probably wouldnt stand up in a court of law.

The riders are self employed and are contracted to a club. But in what other walk of life could you not be paid/ used by club the following year but still be contracted to them and they decide whether you make a living or not . Riders should be signed on a determind time related contract 1 or 2 years then free to move on or sign on again. If not required for say second year they get released from there contract. Thats how it would happen in the real world but forgot speedway is a micky mouse club run by people detatched from reality.

the Bellego fiasco is another example of the ridiculous flaws in the asset system.
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tony rickardsen thretend to take his parant club (ipswich i think) to court under the bosman rule if they didnt let him out on loan they soon gave in

regardless off team or rider if a club owns a riders contract then i think they should have option of using them or letting out on loan or put them up for sale similar to that dreaded game foot ball to many riders sign for the richer clubs and never ride for them

The point i was making is that no club in any other sport has anyone on a lifetime contract. In the example you use football. Players generally sign for a fixed term of say three years they then after that are freevto go wherever they want. However in the three years they can play for the club or go on loan or the club can sell them but they are still paid for the whole three years whether picked to play or not.

In speedway a riders joins a club and if the club dont use him they dont pay him . Therefor imo no longer under contract. My idea goes same as football fixed term contract if not used can be loaned or sold but at end of contract freedom to move. However say you bring a young rider through to pl level from junior when they move a compensation figure is paid as happens in football with u21 players. If all the riders got together and organised themseves they atvthe end of day could push changes through. They had an organisation at one time think remember shane parker had something to do with it

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I thought last year we had signed Matej on a 2 year deal ?

The two-year agreement would be with Matej Kus, all parties no doubt presuming the loan deal was a given, as with 95% of all speedway moves.

 

Is Havelock the problem, or is it the Soprano brothers?

 

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On a similar theme,if there is supposed to be free movement of people and workers within the eu how on earth can the polish authorities stop polish riders being employed in the premier league.Maybe the Borders Agency needs to look at a bit more than just Aussie riders.This sport is just a legal joke and it needs a few test cases to sort out the whole bloody mess.

The Poles, like the French, pick and choose which EU laws they follow.
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I find the stance taking by Mr Havelock very funny, thing is most people are laughing at him. Once he has had his medication and has calmed down a little, then Matej Kus will be allowed to ride for Berwick next season, the club want him and he wants to be here.

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