Black Angus Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 So why hasn't Vissing been replaced, I don't know of manyt fans who don't realise r/r dosn't work and neithe does guest if your average is so low. Maybe because there simply isn't a rider out there with a 7.5 average who is available, could ride in all the remaining fixtures and would agree to race for Berwick at their budgeted rates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To The Point Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Maybe because there simply isn't a rider out there with a 7.5 average who is available, could ride in all the remaining fixtures and would agree to race for Berwick at their budgeted rates? Sod the remaining fixtures, should have been replaced the minute he was injured thank the lord hes finally gone home I don't think anyone should decry the effort any speedway rider puts in, he should simply be thanked for trying his best. In Alex's case the last injury was one too far, and just hasn't come back from it. The reason he has been in the team so long is simply the management did not make a decision when it needed making and replace him much earlier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkafag Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 (edited) I would say that is a simplistic thought process from yourself rather than simplifying the decision made to retain him in the side. As well as the points limit sides have to work within there is also the restraint and restriction of alternative options. At the time of being dropped Edberg isn’t even the lowest average rider in the league, let alone a worse performer than riders who can’t get in sides. Edberg hasn’t fulfilled early potential and promise he has however managed to score three points in the majority of meetings he has raced, which isn’t as easy a task as is often made out, if it was a rider like Konopka wouldn’t find himself retained midseason while seemingly promising British riders sit on the side lines or are out of their depth It is the same positioning as the mystical 7.00 rider over a rider who simply comes in, performs and scores, that rider very often doesn’t actually exist. The idea of dropping Edberg for any other 3.00 rider was always false opposition as the options on comparable averages who could do the same job simply aren’t/weren’t there, or you have to make wholesale changes to free up points which in turn means seeking out other riders who won’t come. The clubs on its arse as it is without the need to rewrite story’s to suit a false narrative re Edberg, in some case there isn’t the deep rooted ideas re riders Dad’s etc, it is just the case that riders aren’t out there. Edited August 26, 2015 by sparkafag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Positive Thinker Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 I am a Berwick speedway spectator who has watched the development of commentary on this forum with growing dismay for some time. I have now joined up to ask that we, the people who want our speedway to continue, get together and take the positive viewpoint of our situation -- and shoot down the ones who try to score points with bile-filled anti-promotion attacks. Come on everybody. Let's work together and make it happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smod Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Good points there. I would add that Alexander Edberg's average had him in the 1-5 as of tomorrow, had he been retained. He really can't have been as bad as some people are saying. But congratulations to the Bandits' promotion for making a positive change at this time, offering their public a fresh face to cheer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 So Edberg has been replaced, this happens and I certainly wish him all the best. I know for a fact that the decision to replace Alex was made by the whole promotion, and I've also heard that Heppy was bombarded with texts on Saturday about Alex. All this negative stuff builds up over time, and I believe that Heppy was ready to walk on Satuday, but was - thankfully - persuaded to stay. People just need to think about all the time and effort that has been put in by these guys, and how difficult it must be for them when things go wrong through events that are out-with their control. I also know that the club are grateful for the service Alex has given to the club, and they wish him all the best for the future. People forget the good scores far too quickly. I know I'm breaking my rule of not posting this type of information on here, but sometimes it just needs to be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 So Edberg has been replaced, this happens and I certainly wish him all the best. I know for a fact that the decision to replace Alex was made by the whole promotion, and I've also heard that Heppy was bombarded with texts on Saturday about Alex. All this negative stuff builds up over time, and I believe that Heppy was ready to walk on Satuday, but was - thankfully - persuaded to stay. People just need to think about all the time and effort that has been put in by these guys, and how difficult it must be for them when things go wrong through events that are out-with their control. I also know that the club are grateful for the service Alex has given to the club, and they wish him all the best for the future. People forget the good scores far too quickly. I know I'm breaking my rule of not posting this type of information on here, but sometimes it just needs to be done. I thought Heppy had stepped down/left? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 I thought Heppy had stepped down/left? Stepped back, Steve. No longer having to put in all the draining work on track preparation. Still a director, still involved in the club -- and still having to chip in when outgoings exceed income! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To The Point Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Good points there. I would add that Alexander Edberg's average had him in the 1-5 as of tomorrow, had he been retained. He really can't have been as bad as some people are saying. But congratulations to the Bandits' promotion for making a positive change at this time, offering their public a fresh face to cheer. The point i was trying to get over was, he should not be slagged off, he did the best he could, other riders are not performing either so he should not be singled out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willowman Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Taken from here. "PREMIER LEAGUE LATEST… BERWICK continue to linger ....The Scottish outfit are now without a win in their last eight meetings in all competitions.Team manager John Anderson said:..." Well that should please the locals! Have they moved the border? Wouldn't be the first time! It was to the north of Berwick when I last lived there some 37 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To The Point Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Taken from here. "PREMIER LEAGUE LATEST… BERWICK continue to linger .... The Scottish outfit are now without a win in their last eight meetings in all competitions. Team manager John Anderson said:..." Well that should please the locals! Have they moved the border? Wouldn't be the first time! It was to the north of Berwick when I last lived there some 37 years ago. Solidly in ENGLAND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagy1 Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Solidly in ENGLAND Sadly, your geographical position should be the least of your worries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To The Point Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Sadly, your geographical position should be the least of your worries. Fully aware of that, still in England though, and has been for 90% of the last 2000 yrs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Angus Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Fully aware of that, still in England though, and has been for 90% of the last 2000 yrs. A thousand years at the most, no such thing as 'England' until around the 10th century. And not for much longer, come the revolution! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Former Bandit Robin Aspgren has joined Sheffield, I note. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Don't know if Alex was ever the same after his first crash at Berwick, it was absolutely horrific. Stuff like that has to play on your mind, let alone the physical side of things. I've said before on here I'm not going to criticise him, he's braver than I'll ever be, to get on a bike and race, but this season hasn't done him or the promotion any good. There were times when he clearly wasn't enjoying himself. Time to move on now, welcome Anders Mellgren. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Staying with Berwick has done Edberg and Berwick no good, maybe a parting of the ways will be do good for both. Hopefully Edberg gets another team, either this season or next, and returns to Berwick ready and able to score lots of points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Former Bandit Robin Aspgren has joined Sheffield, I note. And your information source is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 And your information source is? Absolutely correct! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clambo71 Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Thomas crashed in Denmark this evening. He's OK but having his shoulder X-rayed to be sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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