Rider Replacement Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Tommy the gun will make a fist of it, his set up is good. He'll be chomping at the bit to get it onnnnnn! Give him and the other members of the team a chance, true grit will prevail 👍 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted February 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 Hopefully he does keep his average, if he does we can probably use Jorgenson next season.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjcol Posted February 3, 2015 Report Share Posted February 3, 2015 give the team achance to race as a team and make the douters eat their words 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Visa,does this effect Doolan.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Visa,does this effect Doolan.? Under the criteria riders must have a Premier League average of over 7.00, or finished fourth or better in their state championship. Doolan has neither, it must be hoped that Doolan qualifies either with British parentage and/or for the years he has been resident over here, which I`m not sure comes into the criteria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Under the criteria riders must have a Premier League average of over 7.00, or finished fourth or better in their state championship. Doolan has neither, it must be hoped that Doolan qualifies either with British parentage and/or for the years he has been resident over here, which I`m not sure comes into the criteria.I was thinking that the Rolling averages might not count in these circumstances as they could be over more than I season for certain riders(injuries ect).Then Doolan and Ryan Douglas would be Ok.Only my thoughts though.for instance Douglas has a7.15 average including bonus points last season but under 7 on Green sheet which does not include bonus points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heedthebaw Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Under the criteria riders must have a Premier League average of over 7.00, or finished fourth or better in their state championship. Doolan has neither, it must be hoped that Doolan qualifies either with British parentage and/or for the years he has been resident over here, which I`m not sure comes into the criteria. Kevin Doolan has no need for a Visa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Kevin Doolan has no need for a Visa Which is good news for Doolan and Berwick, looks like there will be a few riders and clubs not so fortunate, and will find themselves in the same position as Workington who have lost Campton and Wethers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 I was thinking that the Rolling averages might not count in these circumstances as they could be over more than I season for certain riders(injuries ect).Then Doolan and Ryan Douglas would be Ok.Only my thoughts though.for instance Douglas has a7.15 average including bonus points last season but under 7 on Green sheet which does not include bonus points. Douglas average 6.84 last season so still didn't get 7 while Doolan got 6.89 last season, again, still didnt get 7. So even not using rolling averages doesn't work for them. Not using rolling averages pushes Sedgemen from 6.99 to 7.05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Douglas average 6.84 last season so still didn't get 7 while Doolan got 6.89 last season, again, still didnt get 7. So even not using rolling averages doesn't work for them. Not using rolling averages pushes Sedgemen from 6.99 to 7.05 If you look at the Scunthorpe Review in last weeks Speedway Star you will see that Ryan Douglas had an average of 7.13 from 34 matches last season that probably includes Bonus Points which is what I was alluding too.That is the statistics I was using.Kevin Doolan has no need for a VisaCould you please give the reason , I am interested.Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTC38L Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Doolan is a permanent resident as far as I know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 If you look at the Scunthorpe Review in last weeks Speedway Star you will see that Ryan Douglas had an average of 7.13 from 34 matches last season that probably includes Bonus Points which is what I was alluding too.That is the statistics I was using. Could you please give the reason , I am interested.Thanks On the BSPA site Ryan Douglas has an average of 6-73, so unless they use bonus points he wont get in via average, hopefully for him he did the necessary if his states national Final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) On the BSPA site Ryan Douglas has an average of 6-73, so unless they use bonus points he wont get in via average, hopefully for him he did the necessary if his states national Final.Try reading my Post correctly before giving an answer,Technically IMO Ryan Douglas could have an average of 7.13 if SS is correct.That is all I am saying.Who is to say that is not the figure that counts.Bonus Points is what my theory is based on. Edited February 4, 2015 by Fromafar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 On the BSPA site Ryan Douglas has an average of 6-73, so unless they use bonus points he wont get in via average, hopefully for him he did the necessary if his states national Final. He did, so his average is irrelevant in this case. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Try reading my Post correctly before giving an answer,Technically IMO Ryan Douglas could have an average of 7.13 if SS is correct.That is all I am saying.Who is to say that is not the figure that counts.Bonus Points is what my theory is based on. It would be ridiculous in the extreme, even for the BSPA, to agree with UKVI the use of averages with BP when they aren't included in the official GSAs. As Najjer points out, it's academic in Douglas' case anyway as he was 4th in Queensland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 He did, so his average is irrelevant in this case. So he qualifies and can look forward to a season over here, some of his fellow countrymen might not be so fortunate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Douglas average 6.84 last season so still didn't get 7 while Doolan got 6.89 last season, again, still didnt get 7. So even not using rolling averages doesn't work for them. Not using rolling averages pushes Sedgemen from 6.99 to 7.05 I would assume that as its the rolling averages that are used for team building its the rolling averages that will count for visa requirements - does anyone know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) It would be ridiculous in the extreme, even for the BSPA, to agree with UKVI the use of averages with BP when they aren't included in the official GSAs. As Najjer points out, it's academic in Douglas' case anyway as he was 4th in Queensland.Wouldn't disagree,but technically Douglas was averaging more than 7pts a meeting .He might have grievance as he was scoring more than 7.Like Najjer points out is irrelevant .Doesn't do much for Team spirit in coming seasons if they stick to these sort of rules regarding Bonus points IMO .Do clubs pay these bonus points?if so that is another anomaly regarding this matter. Edited February 4, 2015 by Fromafar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 So any canny team manager will be instructing his riders to slow up when on a 5-1 if their racing partner is an Aussie in need of a visa with an average close to seven! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 So any canny team manager will be instructing his riders to slow up when on a 5-1 if their racing partner is an Aussie in need of a visa with an average close to seven!That is a possibility . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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