Crump99 Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) Right, I'm home from work and can give you my full attention This is how I saw it from the first bend looking straight down the home straight.. Nikolai Jakobsen was leading, Olly close behind on his outside. Nikolai took the bend a little wider than he had on the previous lap, which he quite entitled to do... Ollie had no time to correct his intended move around the outside and ran out of room. I've yet to read or hear from anyone who doesn't think it was a racing incident, which Olly Allen was rightly excuded.... Now lets read your take on it Simple take on it from centre stand after watching riders fly by and turn into that corner for more years than I care to remember. Allen went where many go week in, week out, but Jakobsen went straight for longer than is normal which gave Allen nowhere to go at high speed. If that happens on turn 3 the Allen gets excluded then nobody is any the wiser. Happening where it did I wouldn't have been surprised to see Jakobsen excluded. If it's a racing incident then why is anyone excluded as both are culpable? Edited March 30, 2015 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Simple take on it from centre stand after watching riders fly by and turn into that corner for more years than I care to remember. Allen went where many go week in, week out, but Jakobsen went straight for longer than is normal which gave Allen nowhere to go at high speed. If that happens on turn 3 the Allen gets excluded then nobody is any the wiser. Happening where it did I wouldn't have been surprised to see Jakobsen excluded. If it's a racing incident then why is anyone excluded as both are culpable? How was Jakobsen culpable? He didn't change his line, just kept it for longer than Allen expected. Allen took a chance and it didn't come off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) give em some stabilizers, but only on the right hand side.why are you lot complaining about a rider defending his line or a rider who anticipated a gap that wasn't there ,(because he had used that line so many times) and the guy in front just rode hie best line to defend his position.. its not that hard to understand. then again, it is Peterborough we are talking about. just give em the league title and then we can all get on with some entertainment..lol. Edited March 30, 2015 by jenga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambpanther Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) Simple take on it from centre stand after watching riders fly by and turn into that corner for more years than I care to remember. Allen went where many go week in, week out, but Jakobsen went straight for longer than is normal which gave Allen nowhere to go at high speed. If that happens on turn 3 the Allen gets excluded then nobody is any the wiser. Happening where it did I wouldn't have been surprised to see Jakobsen excluded. If it's a racing incident then why is anyone excluded as both are culpable? As a Panthers fan I agree with what Shads has been saying, looked like no intent from the rye rider and olly just went streaming into bend into a gap that wasnt there Edited March 30, 2015 by Panther2006 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 give em some stabilizers, but only on the right hand side.why are you lot complaining about a rider defending his line or a rider who anticipated a gap that wasn't there ,(because he had used that line so many times) and the guy in front just rode hie best line to defend his position.. its not that hard to understand. then again, it is Peterborough we are talking about. just give em the league title and then we can all get on with some entertainment..lol. Of course if that was Hans Andersen or Nicki Pedersen defending their position in their Peterborough days you'd be wetting yourself for an exclusion for unfair riding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 we all know hans is a bit dirty now and again and as for nikki p, he could be excluded for coming to the gate. not a huge fan of either, but racing is racing and things sometimes don't always go to plan.its part of the sport. dont bet on me wanting riders excluded for trying to entertain the public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 we all know hans is a bit dirty now and again and as for nikki p, he could be excluded for coming to the gate. not a huge fan of either, but racing is racing and things sometimes don't always go to plan.its part of the sport. dont bet on me wanting riders excluded for trying to entertain the public. Someone's hacked Jengas account. A sensible post!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Surely the riders in front can ride whatever line they like? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) Surely the riders in front can ride whatever line they like? We all know that in theory that's the mantra, but we also know that it's not as simple as that. Riders often use the term "allowing racing room" - what does that mean? IMO is does not mean they can ride whatever line they like because they are 1/2 bike length in front. Edited March 31, 2015 by Crump99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesM09 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Ask Garrity about things going on behind scenes and lack of support/team spirit. He seems to be in a good place this year and has lots of sponsors on board Regarding Garrity's attitude, an incident at Plymouth last years springs to mind... Both Garrity and Boxall had 8+1 heading into heat 15 so a coin toss was agreed where Garrity called tails and it was heads so Boxall was put into heat 15. His reaction was to direct foul language towards the Rye promotion (Len and John) and anyone else in the Rye pit area, basically threw a massive strop like a kid who's chocolate had just been taken away!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 We all know that in theory that's the mantra, but we also know that it's not as simple as that. Riders often use the term "allowing racing room" - what does that mean? IMO is does not mean they can ride whatever line they like because they are 1/2 bike length in front. So basically you're saying Jakobsen was at fault Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Regarding Garrity's attitude, an incident at Plymouth last years springs to mind... Both Garrity and Boxall had 8+1 heading into heat 15 so a coin toss was agreed where Garrity called tails and it was heads so Boxall was put into heat 15. His reaction was to direct foul language towards the Rye promotion (Len and John) and anyone else in the Rye pit area, basically threw a massive strop like a kid who's chocolate had just been taken away!! WOW, fancy that, a rider upset at not being able to race. Give me a rider like that over one who refuses to ride, one who rides around at the back when he misses the start etc. Jason is not perfect, far for it in fact but he attitude towards racing and winning is exactly what it should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 So basically you're saying Jakobsen was at fault I was going to put that this is a general point and not a comment on Friday night's incident but then thought that I'd wait for it to arrive, and there it is! I just said a lifetime ago that for me it wasn't as 100% correct as you seem to think. I seem to be in the minority, I can cope with that. If everything was so clear cut then we wouldn't need a pit phone for riders to swear at and throw down would we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukas Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 It would be nice to hear something from the club in terms of how long olly is expected to be out and if they are actively looking for a replacement?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 It would be nice to hear something from the club in terms of how long olly is expected to be out and if they are actively looking for a replacement??Some worrying rumours on Facebook but as it stands officiant Olly is still in hospital awaiting further results. I would guess we are waiting for those and also new averages tomorrow to know where we are at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Some worrying rumours Which are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Dont think there are any new averages due until May Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterborough daz Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) Which are? Rumours on FB stating that he's still in hospital with a shattered and dislocated ankle and may not walk properly again yet alon ride again. Hope they're wrong. Edited March 31, 2015 by dazpanther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterborough daz Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) Update on Olly Allen Injury not as bad as originally feared Doesn't need second operation Going home tomorrow with leg in plaster and will be non weight bearing for 6 weeks. Ligaments and tendons stretched which will take a while to recover. Edited March 31, 2015 by dazpanther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 All the best to olly i wonder who the replacement will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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