SCB Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 He's come in on a 4.92 average! No.7.28. Rider either come in on last seasons PL average, last seasons EL average converted, or an assessed average. He has no PL average so you move on to the converted EL average which is 7.28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterborough daz Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Confirmed 4.92 which was the agreed average for Workington to sign him earlier in the winter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 No.7.28. Rider either come in on last seasons PL average, last seasons EL average converted, or an assessed average. He has no PL average so you move on to the converted EL average which is 7.28 "The Twenty-four year-old becomes the fourth Danish rider to be named in the Comets line-up for next season and despite averaging 5.20 for Elite League Belle Vue last season he is permitted to return to the Premier League on his 2013 Premier League average of 4.92, which he achieved with Scunthorpe and Plymouth." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukas Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Great move from management..shows they mean business this season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 (edited) Great move from management..shows they mean business this season you mean for the 28 days he is in the team.. thought SCB knew everything about averages.. Edited March 20, 2015 by jenga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Well it's been confirmed by the BSPA What that SCB (and I don't mean the Speedway Control Bureau) knows the rules better than the BSPA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 "The Twenty-four year-old becomes the fourth Danish rider to be named in the Comets line-up for next season and despite averaging 5.20 for Elite League Belle Vue last season he is permitted to return to the Premier League on his 2013 Premier League average of 4.92, which he achieved with Scunthorpe and Plymouth." I don't care what an article says. The rules say he is NOT 4.92. He is 5.20x1.4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble53 Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 (edited) you mean for the 28 days he is in the team.. thought SCB knew everything about averages.. If you take the time to read this years regulations, SCB is correct. The relevant sections is as follows: 18.6.4 If a Rider has only an EL Established MA from the previous season, which must not exceed 6.00, then a conversion is necessary; the EL MA is multiplied by 1.4. Not only is this a new regulation this year, as can be seen by the fact that it is in bold in the document, I can't find anything to say that the MC can over-ride it either. So we have a brand new regulation, and it is completely ignored before a wheel has been turned in anger, not once, but twice with the same rider. Unfortunately, no matter what anyone might think to the contrary, it is exactly this type of double handedness from the BSPA that ultimately brought about the current Visa situation. Not only that, together with the issuing of totally misleading (written) information, to both Berwick & Somerset on more than one occasion, it brought about the Brady Kurtz, Jack Holder & Jake Allen situations, which have given you so much glee over the last couple of seasons. Cue all the defenders of the faith to come out of the woodwork to beat me with a stick........ Edited March 20, 2015 by womble53 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 (edited) I don't care what an article says. The rules say he is NOT 4.92. He is 5.20x1.4 I saw this quote which was aimed at someone else (funnily enough Rick Frost, so it's ironic that the owner/sponser is allegedly finally getting the benefit of the guidelines) and it seems to apply to many on here: "He thought Speedway rules and regulations were set in stone. They aren't." Edited March 21, 2015 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans fan Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 I saw this quote which was aimed at someone else (funnily enough Rick Frost so it's ironic that the owner/sponser is allegedly finally getting the benefit of the guidelines) and it seems to apply to many on here: "He thought Speedway rules and regulations were set in stone. They aren't." amazing how panthers never had anything (by bspa) go there way in the past , all of a sudden we've got a decision what looks very dubious at best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 ah well, if its in the rules, its in the rules.is this another debate or will it end up like the getting off the bike rule to do the gardening. gardening has now been allowed off the bike. why make rule you cant wont stick with. so if that's the case SCB. i bow down to you ..there is no point in getting a 2015 rule book, its like reading last weeks papers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
em1500uk Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Like Buster Chapman said, set fire to the rulebook. Might as well. It means nowt anyway these days http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/speedway/30116294 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 (edited) amazing how panthers never had anything (by bspa) go there way in the past , all of a sudden we've got a decision what looks very dubious at best The decision had already been made so it's nothing to do with us. We haven't got a decision, they've just said that the Workington decision is correct.. If it goes too well for us though they'll invoke the Kozza Smith rule if need be which will make our team illegal, subject to appeal of course! Edited March 21, 2015 by Crump99 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champs99 Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 (edited) Erm, yeah, try again! Erm.....no need Edited March 21, 2015 by champs99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 (edited) But the Workington decision wasn't correct as that team was never confirmed.... Edited March 21, 2015 by 2ndbendbeerhut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 (edited) But the Workington decision wasn't correct as that team was never confirmed.... Well whoever wrote the press release thought it was and there's been plenty of time to correct it or take it down if it's inaccurate. Who gave the info that he is "permitted" and what was that based on? However, it is slightly worrying that with 25 hours to go to tapes up (or kick off in my case), there is no team news? Richard Richard might yet get a run out. Edited March 21, 2015 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Well if that is the rule and it looks like it is, shouldn't any club that's racing against them now put their cash up and ride under protest? It's about time promotions stuck together and made sure the rules are stuck to, even if it doesn't benefit them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 I posted this on the Peterborough forum this morning and thought I would share it on here. A few years ago before doubling up was introduced I remember something being passed at the BSPA Conference which was done to encourage riders to move up from the PL and try the EL , the BSPA had noticed their was a reluctance from riders to try the EL over lack of fixtures amongst other things They therefore passed some ruling that allowed riders to try the EL and if things didn't work out or they were not offered a contract the following year rather than be saddled with a higher EL average they allowed them to return to the PL on their last PL average. This I think is what they are doing here, anyone else remember this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Well if that is the rule and it looks like it is, shouldn't any club that's racing against them now put their cash up and ride under protest? It's about time promotions stuck together and made sure the rules are stuck to, even if it doesn't benefit them. Protest against what? We don't know why it was permitted as stated in the Workington press release? When has the BSPA ever been transparent? These things happen and every team riding against Poole would ride under historical protest if they followed your suggestion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 So everyone should just bury their heads in the sand then. Or if it has been passed for another reason, they should remove the rule that says he should be on another average. Don't have a rule that isn't going to be used, simple. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.