cambpanther Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 Is that what the 12k is made up of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PE7Panther Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 Is that what the 12k is made up of? What was said just after the break was something along the lines of "we've had lots of people come up to us during the break and we're delighted that about £2,800 has already been donated...". Then they mentioned that a fan who wished to remain anon. had chipped in 10 grand. I had to dash off but I'm pretty sure more people would've come forward at the end. I'll certainly be emailing the Supp Club tomorrow because I want to do my bit too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Left at the interval because I was bored with all the rubbish from certain people about the state of speedway in general. Felt sorry for Trevor & Ged for having to listen to all the moans, when all they were trying to do was save our speedway club. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAST Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 (edited) I think a lot of useful information was shared The costs of running the matches the challenges/barriers to promoting the club The BSPA constraints Who actualy "runs " Speedway What the riders needed to do beyond just racing on the track The ongoing debates regarding the fixture list and number of matches The potential promoters views on what they agreed with/disagreed with in respect of how the sport was run Some of the new promoters ideas although I did think one or two were too complicated/ambitious and would struggle to be implemented when they got into the detail Was also interesting that when it was announced it would be Premier next year - no one "spoke up" against it, yes not everyone clapped but it was an opportunity for them to challenge the decision. {added} There were also individuals in attendance who had different agenda's, not necessarily focused on "Saving the Club", for example making sure the reputation of previous promotions were not sullied too much!! Terry Edited November 1, 2014 by TAST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukas Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 (edited) As he stated he reads this I want to personaly thank Mr Rathbone who lives miles up in the north east to make the effort to do what he's doing and also Trevor Swales who has his critics on here but say what you want about him..he's Panthers through and through and does the lot. Alot of points were being brought up about the state of british speedway in general which is beyond their control and some other negative stuff which like lack of ice creams at the fours!..which was embarrassing.. and I hope they know that that they are not the thoughts of the majority. What was the Phil Wing questions all about?..does he want to help out?...anyway there was no shortage of ideas and questions and a great turnout...the best question of the night though was "who's in the team apart from Ully and Wilko?!" I was too shy to speak up but one thing I would have suggested is permanent Billboards in the city centre and some form of discounted family tickets (like £20-£25 for 2adults and a child) or discount family season tickets for the 3-400 die hards..specialy now it looks like we are gonna race on a friday which is great news..and off the back of that more stuff to get the kids wanting to go like mascots and autograph sessions because the one thing that stood out for me lastnight was the shortage of youngsters in attendance. Also more corporate stuff for company nights out..I know where I work would be interested in something like that. All in all a very positive night and would love to hear Ged and Trevs thoughts on it all Edited November 1, 2014 by Lukas 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Mostly positive tonight, and most I am sure left with some optimism that Panthers would run in 2015. Yes there was no seeming opposition to Premier League but then why would there be as it is that or nothing, additionally most of the support that remained with Panthers last season in the main prefer Premier League. Sorry to see some left at the interval and I do no conc with the view rubbish was spoken about the state of Speedway and that Trevor & Ged were or should have been upset by any negativity. They were in my view highly delighted by the turn out and concern of supporters for the club. It remains to be seen what if anything ensues from the cameo role of Phil Wing. For myself I still and always will prefer Elite League whatever its format, but as I mentioned earlier for he moment at least it is Premier or nothing and I am not at all keen on nothing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Phil Wing was there a few times last season, and still has a role with the Phantoms don't he? Also he is probably still a Panthers fan, so to have the Panthers still running is in his interest. Hence the devils advocate role last night, asking questions. Don't believe any comments last night was 'rubbish', yes some wasn't probably right with the evening, BUT its all true. Thought they answered the questions well, and they certainly have the help from the people who turned up last night, so bring on the challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans fan Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 As he stated he reads this I want to personaly thank Mr Rathbone who lives miles up in the north east to make the effort to do what he's doing and also Trevor Swales who has his critics on here but say what you want about him..he's Panthers through and through and does the lot. Alot of points were being brought up about the state of british speedway in general which is beyond their control and some other negative stuff which like lack of ice creams at the fours!..which was embarrassing.. and I hope they know that that they are not the thoughts of the majority. What was the Phil Wing questions all about?..does he want to help out?...anyway there was no shortage of ideas and questions and a great turnout...the best question of the night though was "who's in the team apart from Ully and Wilko?!" I was too shy to speak up but one thing I would have suggested is permanent Billboards in the city centre and some form of discounted family tickets (like £20-£25 for 2adults and a child) or season tickets for the 400 die hards..specialy now it looks like we are gonna race on a friday which is great news..and off the back of that more stuff to get the kids wanting to go like mascots and autograph sessions because the one thing that stood out for me lastnight was the shortage of youngsters in attendance. Also more corporate stuff for company nights out..I know where I work would be interested in something like that. All in all a very positive night and would love to hear Ged and Trevs thoughts on it all to be fair the lady who does the cubs (can't remember her name) tries bloody hard ,but as she said to me , parents wont bring there kids on Tuesdays ,I'd be pretty sure if they ran Fridays you'd see a lot more kids , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 (edited) I think a lot of useful information was shared The costs of running the matches the challenges/barriers to promoting the club The BSPA constraints Who actualy "runs " Speedway What the riders needed to do beyond just racing on the track The ongoing debates regarding the fixture list and number of matches The potential promoters views on what they agreed with/disagreed with in respect of how the sport was run Some of the new promoters ideas although I did think one or two were too complicated/ambitious and would struggle to be implemented when they got into the detail Was also interesting that when it was announced it would be Premier next year - no one "spoke up" against it, yes not everyone clapped but it was an opportunity for them to challenge the decision. {added} There were also individuals in attendance who had different agenda's, not necessarily focused on "Saving the Club", for example making sure the reputation of previous promotions were not sullied too much!! Terry From looking at Twitter and other sources it all looked positive Tel, and overall I suppose it was, but you've put some alternative viewpoints. It was a party conference though Tel and the vast majority there would support whatever was offered. It was pretty clear that that would only be Prem so no surprises there. Without Frost/Mahoney or someone new with the finances being interested then what was the point of challenging? Someone could have asked whether there was a forward plan I suppose but just replying that survival is the key would bat that question away. If Peterborough Speedway continues then fair play to those involved but it's been too big a backward step for me & I'm feeling like Lewis Bridger at the moment. I'll play it by ear from here if we ride on. It may work & be ok, time will tell. I remember a discussion with Phil Wing once in which I was trying to get across that speedway for speedway's sake didn't work for many; that didn't compute! Not sure what message him turning up sends now that Panthers are virtually where he wanted them to be? He may just have been interested as a fan? Phil Wing was there a few times last season, and still has a role with the Phantoms don't he? Also he is probably still a Panthers fan, so to have the Panthers still running is in his interest. Hence the devils advocate role last night, asking questions. I am curious as to why local business man Phil Wing was there and was bemused by some of his probing questions.. And to play devil's advocate and conspiracy theorist, doesn't Horton have a box at the hockey thing? Edited November 1, 2014 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Though ASL his company did, also owed loads to riders etc i believe. Only decent bloke to run Pboro recently was Rick. Every dealing either Horton Brother had with it has ended in a nightmare. ASL existed only on paper, what you believe isn't fact is it. Mostly positive tonight, and most I am sure left with some optimism that Panthers would run in 2015. Yes there was no seeming opposition to Premier League but then why would there be as it is that or nothing, additionally most of the support that remained with Panthers last season in the main prefer Premier League. Sorry to see some left at the interval and I do no conc with the view rubbish was spoken about the state of Speedway and that Trevor & Ged were or should have been upset by any negativity. They were in my view highly delighted by the turn out and concern of supporters for the club. It remains to be seen what if anything ensues from the cameo role of Phil Wing. For myself I still and always will prefer Elite League whatever its format, but as I mentioned earlier for he moment at least it is Premier or nothing and I am not at all keen on nothing. I got the distinct impression they had already made their minds up to run especially when Swales made it clear everything was in place. The turn out was impressive and running Fridays was a good start, no real business plan was forthcoming and some of the answers to questions were vague but a good exchange of views and ideas. It's apparent that the Showground now really want the speedway to be there which is a big plus but they missed a trick by not having a bar on a warm evening. I still stay they need a good commercial manager although they did say they had spoken to someone about the role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Swales reflects on last night's forum https://audioboom.com/boos/2612818-peterborough-panthers-promoter-trevor-swales-after-the-make-or-break-fans-forum-01-11-2014 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans fan Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 ASL existed only on paper, what you believe isn't fact is it. I got the distinct impression they had already made their minds up to run especially when Swales made it clear everything was in place. The turn out was impressive and running Fridays was a good start, no real business plan was forthcoming and some of the answers to questions were vague but a good exchange of views and ideas. It's apparent that the Showground now really want the speedway to be there which is a big plus but they missed a trick by not having a bar on a warm evening. I still stay they need a good commercial manager although they did say they had spoken to someone about the role. well lets hope if they do run they can put out a competitive team and not waste money on foreigners who are cack , 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Thing is 7 brits in a side = a naff side. You need a few foreigners in there for some talent. Ostergaard/Blackbird/Clegg IMO will be certainties, throw in Wilko aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans fan Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Thing is 7 brits in a side = a naff side. You need a few foreigners in there for some talent. Ostergaard/Blackbird/Clegg IMO will be certainties, throw in Wilko aswell. I'd be disappointed after they gave roynon a chance if he doesn't repay the compliment , I wouldn't bet that blackbird is a certainty either esp if cradley run proud panther will know more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PE7Panther Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 As he stated he reads this I want to personaly thank Mr Rathbone who lives miles up in the north east to make the effort to do what he's doing and also Trevor Swales who has his critics on here but say what you want about him..he's Panthers through and through and does the lot. Alot of points were being brought up about the state of british speedway in general which is beyond their control and some other negative stuff which like lack of ice creams at the fours!..which was embarrassing.. and I hope they know that that they are not the thoughts of the majority. What was the Phil Wing questions all about?..does he want to help out?...anyway there was no shortage of ideas and questions and a great turnout...the best question of the night though was "who's in the team apart from Ully and Wilko?!" I was too shy to speak up but one thing I would have suggested is permanent Billboards in the city centre and some form of discounted family tickets (like £20-£25 for 2adults and a child) or discount family season tickets for the 3-400 die hards..specialy now it looks like we are gonna race on a friday which is great news..and off the back of that more stuff to get the kids wanting to go like mascots and autograph sessions because the one thing that stood out for me lastnight was the shortage of youngsters in attendance. Also more corporate stuff for company nights out..I know where I work would be interested in something like that. All in all a very positive night and would love to hear Ged and Trevs thoughts on it all Oh, that was Phil Wing was it.....? Yeah, WTF was that all about?! I thought he was trying a little too hard to impress. If he was hoping people would be sitting open-mouthed in wonder at his wit, insight, smartness and eloquence, he failed! To me, he came across as a clever-dick who loves to be centre-stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukas Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 I'll think he's a star if he chucks 40grand in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Good turn out. Decent meeting with a fair amount of openness from the 2 guys. Rathbone seems a decent kind of bloke. Good news about PL again - Fridays not so great given my traffic issues getting there but I'll cope!! Hope there are a few Sundays thrown in for off nights. An amount of negativity from a few but generally there was a positive approach especially after they said they were only interested in the future not the past. Slightly confused about the money aspect though. They need £8.5k per meeting to cover costs but were only taking £6.5k this year BUT they don't need any of the donations/sponsors etc to cover week to week running costs? So do the figures only work if another 150-200 turn up every week? The £40k they need to get going - is this every year or a one-off? But other than that they were about as open as they could be I suppose. Hopefully they have done enough. I'm happy to give them another few quid even though they are not my team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Get the season ticket prices out before xmas, & if its good value like last year, a few people might buy them as xmas presents. Hope my wife takes the hint LOL. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Fear that the team will be run on a budget basis and that will lead to poor results and then poorer attendances that will ultimately end up as a brummie moment so hope this isnt the case but!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Thing is 7 brits in a side = a naff side. You need a few foreigners in there for some talent. Ostergaard/Blackbird/Clegg IMO will be certainties, throw in Wilko aswell. It will be financial suicide if they put out a naff side in 2015, Wilkinson, are you serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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