TheScotsman Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Rules is rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sully Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Rules is rules.then why have a vote on it? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 then why have a vote on it? Because the BSPA/MC/individual promoters/team managers don't know the rules, as we've seen on many occasions. A lot of people, including myself, missed the fact that this rule had been subtly changed, presumably to stop riders dropping their EL average in the early part of the season to be able to drop down/double up. Now they'll have to decide whether they want to do it way ahead of time with all the consequences that that could bring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moorwell Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Peterborough have never been liked by the clowns at the bspa..off the top of my head there was the farce when Poole illegally used proctor and the result stood, there was the ridiculous overturned result at kings Lynn which ended our last season in the elite and they've blocked countless signings such as schein and for forsell. Them idiots on the panel are more corrupt than FIFA! i would be carefull what you say,corruption is a very serious allegation and for the record i am not corrupt and never will be .It is quite simple there is a rule that was agreed at AGM by all the premier promoters that any rider with an EL average over 6 at the start of the season could not double up ,everyone agreed as this would protect the elete league from riders riding there average down to gain entry to the premier league and for the premier league would stop the gap getting even smaller to the elete league .so there you are over to you so no conspiracy just common sence and an agreement from eveyone Which makes it all the more interesting because we lost the vote 3-2 apparently, bearing in mind A promoter recommended him you would have thought they would know the rules. If they were sticking to the rules it would have been 5-0, this whole thing stinks and unfortunately not for the first time. no vote there never was dont know where that has come from but its not true because the rule was there so no debate needed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) Stupid decision, but feel the Panthers have got away with murder having used guests for Allen for so long, only doing something about it when Lamberts average got near to Allens, maybe this is the reason hes missed so many meetings lol ... Backfired a bit if so Edited July 1, 2015 by Arson fire 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idh Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 18.6.4 If a Rider has only an EL Established MA from the previous season, which must not exceed 6.00, then a conversion is necessary; the EL MA is multiplied by 1.4. He was 6.25 at the start of the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 i would be carefull what you say,corruption is a very serious allegation and for the record i am not corrupt and never will be .It is quite simple there is a rule that was agreed at AGM by all the premier promoters that any rider with an EL average over 6 at the start of the season could not double up ,everyone agreed as this would protect the elete league from riders riding there average down to gain entry to the premier league and for the premier league would stop the gap getting even smaller to the elete league .so there you are over to you so no conspiracy just common sence and an agreement from eveyone no vote there never was dont know where that has come from but its not true because the rule was there so no debate needed That's a lot of posters told. Thanks for telling us the actual situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Porsing it is then i would be carefull what you say,corruption is a very serious allegation and for the record i am not corrupt and never will be .It is quite simple there is a rule that was agreed at AGM by all the premier promoters that any rider with an EL average over 6 at the start of the season could not double up ,everyone agreed as this would protect the elete league from riders riding there average down to gain entry to the premier league and for the premier league would stop the gap getting even smaller to the elete league .so there you are over to you so no conspiracy just common sence and an agreement from eveyone no vote there never was dont know where that has come from but its not true because the rule was there so no debate needed The BSPA are not corrupt, glad that's sorted.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) That's a lot of posters told. Thanks for telling us the actual situation. Not unless they know who moorwell is, and they'd still like to see the minutes irrespective! As Sir Humphrey Appley (no not the BSF one) said: It is characteristic of all committee discussions and decisions that every member has a vivid recollection of them and that every member's recollection of them differs violently from every other member's recollection. Consequently we accept the convention that the official decisions are those and only those which have officially recorded in the minutes by the officials, from which it emerges with an elegant inevitability that any decision which has been officially reached will have been officially recorded in the minutes by the officials and any decision which is not recorded in the minutes has not been officially reached even if one or more members believe they can recollect it, so in this particular case if the decision had been officially reached it would have been officially recorded in the minutes by the officials. And it isn't so it wasn't. Ironic that that reads like it was written by whoever wrote the rule book. Edited July 1, 2015 by Crump99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northyorksbear Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 18.6.4 If a Rider has only an EL Established MA from the previous season, which must not exceed 6.00, then a conversion is necessary; the EL MA is multiplied by 1.4. He was 6.25 at the start of the season You are 73 posts late Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterborough daz Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 So then how many points do we have to play with for a replacement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 So then how many points do we have to play with for a replacement 8.51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterborough daz Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 8.51 Not according to Ged on radio cambs. We can only sign a second string rider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Maybe Ged doesn't know the rules? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 maybe you have to re declare ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pvm Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 I'm guessing, being new to promoting, he's made the same mistake all new promoters do, He trusted the information given to him by a fellow promoter in the belief that he was being offered help and advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 That's the only reason I can see. At which point Lambert R might get a proper average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Peterborough have never been liked by the clowns at the bspa..off the top of my head there was the farce when Poole illegally used proctor and the result stood, there was the ridiculous overturned result at kings Lynn which ended our last season in the elite and they've blocked countless signings such as schein and for forsell. Them idiots on the panel are more corrupt than FIFA! You're kidding? Lambert allowed to double up despite NOT having a PL average at the start of the season. Palm Toft on 5.25 when the rules say he should be 7.50. The BSPA have done all they can to help Peterborough this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) i would be carefull what you say,corruption is a very serious allegation and for the record i am not corrupt and never will be .It is quite simple there is a rule that was agreed at AGM by all the premier promoters that any rider with an EL average over 6 at the start of the season could not double up ,everyone agreed as this would protect the elete league from riders riding there average down to gain entry to the premier league and for the premier league would stop the gap getting even smaller to the elete league .so there you are over to you so no conspiracy just common sence and an agreement from eveyone no vote there never was dont know where that has come from but its not true because the rule was there so no debate needed hmm bspa in clarity shocker Who decided the wildcards for the british final rob?? And why do the bspa hardly communicate with the fans or explain how things are done/decided..?? Can you also explain Kurtz and MPT averages for us fans?? Please. Edited July 1, 2015 by Arson fire 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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