Tsunami Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 TBF we can all look back at the luck certain rider had to win this meeting and that meeting. He ultimately put himself in a position to be able to win it. There is no doubting that in 1998 that Cunningham was a superb rider and set for big things - where did it all go so wrong? As Pinny says, in 1999 he lost a point on his average and went backwards. He tried the EL the year after and was screwed over a bit by Peterborough (same as Compton) - which saw Compton back in the PL that season (was it Newcastle who signed him on 11?) and Cunningham went to BV for the rest of the season before returning to the PL with Newport and becoming the 7 point man he remained as for the rest of his career. Peterborough that season killed off Compton and Cunningham - two riders who could and probably should have achieved a lot more Cunningham was very lucky to squeeze into the final, only qualifying with about 8 or 9 points. SCB. Try not to make up averages at will to suit yourself. Compton, when he joined us, was on a 4 + EL average (an identical average to Cunningham I seem to remember) meaning he came to us on an 8+ PL average. It was me that signed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) Cunningham was very lucky to squeeze into the final, only qualifying with about 8 or 9 points. SCB. Try not to make up averages at will to suit yourself. Compton, when he joined us, was on a 4 + EL average (an identical average to Cunningham I seem to remember) meaning he came to us on an 8+ PL average. It was me that signed him. I could have sworn he averaged 5.65 for Peterborough while Glenn was about 6.2. Glenn then went to BV and dropped his average to about 4.8 and signed for Newport on 9.6. Im sure they had both done well in reserve but then had 2 or 3 meetings in the 1-5 and struggled so were dropped while still on their averages from there 6 meetings in reserve. I'll bow to your better knowledge on this one though as it was you that ended up signing him edit > I wonder if he got 5.65 in reserve. Was dropped so would have been PL 11 but those 2 or 4 bad meetings dropped his average to 4.XX and thats when you signed him. Edited February 9, 2015 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 I could have sworn he averaged 5.65 for Peterborough while Glenn was about 6.2. Glenn then went to BV and dropped his average to about 4.8 and signed for Newport on 9.6. Im sure they had both done well in reserve but then had 2 or 3 meetings in the 1-5 and struggled so were dropped while still on their averages from there 6 meetings in reserve. I'll bow to your better knowledge on this one though as it was you that ended up signing him edit > I wonder if he got 5.65 in reserve. Was dropped so would have been PL 11 but those 2 or 4 bad meetings dropped his average to 4.XX and thats when you signed him. Probably. Both Andre and Glen were both about 4.40 with identical averages, and I had an afternoon start on signing him, before it was due to be released the following morning to everyone else. We had to drop Jamie Smith for 1 month to fit Andre in, but Jamie went to Hull instead. Why I remember this loan deal was for what we won with Andre the next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rabbit Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 And a very lucky rider in the PLRC in 98. Lucky, I don't know, but he certainly showed Stoney how to ride Owlerton in the Panthers' PL victory there earlier in the season. A maximum, beating Stoney from behind three times - once when almost stalling at the start and having the distance from starting line to first bend to make up. The best display I've witnessed by a Panthers' rider in team competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) We knew we didn't get priority over Robert Lambert but now learn we don't get priority over Simon Lambert and still a ? Over Blackbird I fear it's going to be another year of guests and rider replacement http://speeding-motorcycles.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/speeding-motorcyles-special-2015-double.html?spref=tw&m=1 Edited February 9, 2015 by Noodles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Are we going to start the who owns Blackbird debate again? wink! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 I fear it's going to be another year of guests and rider replacement Great way to run a business, that'll please Hodgy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted February 14, 2015 Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 Have we got a time for our first meeting of the season yet? Also, any hint of a GB side? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted February 14, 2015 Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 Have we got a time for our first meeting of the season yet? Also, any hint of a GB side?We have a 2pm start. Rory's meeting at Lynn starts at 6pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
em1500uk Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 2pm start for the Great Britain Select (15th March) and 1pm start for the League Cup against Somerset (22nd March) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Nice to see Peterborough had a stand at the paradise park today, fair play to you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Nice to see Peterborough had a stand at the paradise park today, fair play to youThey had one last year too. Sadly nothing from the local team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maneacat Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 I see from Post 1219 on the Coventry 2015 thread posted by Chris BART Simpson that Horton has been chucking toys out of the pram again and upsetting the Bees fans in the process - not a good way to kick off the new season - don't imagine there will be many Panthers fans surprised by this latest development. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans fan Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 I see from Post 1219 on the Coventry 2015 thread posted by Chris BART Simpson that Horton has been chucking toys out of the pram again and upsetting the Bees fans in the process - not a good way to kick off the new season - don't imagine there will be many Panthers fans surprised by this latest development. the only surprise is it took this long 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Ipswich/Mildenhall/neither who cares. The important thing for Peterborough is that he isn't an asset of his EL club and won't be missing any fixtures. SCB regulations state that if he is a NL rider then EL takes priority when neither club owns him. So if he is Mildenhal asset Wolves get priority, if he's an Ipswich asset then Peterborough get priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smod Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 (edited) SCB regulations state that if he is a NL rider then EL takes priority when neither club owns him. So if he is Mildenhal asset Wolves get priority, if he's an Ipswich asset then Peterborough get priority. Not necessarily. Rule 16.1.2 states that, if he's an NL rider "an arrangement can be made", only if that isn't "arranged" would the EL club take priority. Having said that, I'd guess CVS might just be quicker to "arrange" things than Peterborough. Edited February 20, 2015 by smod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Not necessarily. Rule 16.1.2 states that, if he's an NL rider "an arrangement can be made", only if that isn't "arranged" would the EL club take priority. Having said that, I'd guess CVS might just be quicker to "arrange" things than Peterborough. Blackbird has already tweeted that Panthers will get priority on his services in 2015. One must presume he should know... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Blackbird has already tweeted that Panthers will get priority on his services in 2015. One must presume he should know... Which suggests he's an Ipswich asset. If he's Mildenhalls, then Wolves can claim priority if they like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Blackbird has already tweeted that Panthers will get priority on his services in 2015. One must presume he should know...He tweeted he is a Mildenhall asset, therefore he is wrong when he then says Panthers get priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 The poster above quotes rule 16.1.2 which says that an arrangement can be made to give Panthers priority if he belongs to an NL club. What's not to understand here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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