SteveLyric2 Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 If Rosco is not intending to use Miedzinski, I reckon he would be a good bet to join Doyley. He's a very good gater and will be riding with Doyley at Torun so travelling together etc would make some sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitusTokio Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Sounds like this Doyle transfer is heading to arbitration http://www.swindonlinksport.com/2014/12/07/10530/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Sounds like this Doyle transfer is heading to arbitration http://www.swindonlinksport.com/2014/12/07/10530/ Wasn't there a bit of acrimony between these two clubs during 2014 season, about the match at Leicester that Swindon didn't want to go ahead with? Having so many Swindon assets in the Leicester team wasn't ideal, either, and so it would make sense for Leicester to buy Doyle on a full transfer at the correct going price, and provide Swindon with the money to buy Batchelor or use in other ways as may be needed. Leicester should be able to afford the transfer fee - a quick check of Leicester Speedway Ltd's latest (2013) financial statement shown on Companies House records seems to indicate net assets of about £650,000 - which if correct would probably well above that of most other clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Wasn't there a bit of acrimony between these two clubs during 2014 season, about the match at Leicester that Swindon didn't want to go ahead with? Having so many Swindon assets in the Leicester team wasn't ideal, either, and so it would make sense for Leicester to buy Doyle on a full transfer at the correct going price, and provide Swindon with the money to buy Batchelor or use in other ways as may be needed. Leicester should be able to afford the transfer fee - a quick check of Leicester Speedway Ltd's latest (2013) financial statement shown on Companies House records seems to indicate net assets of about £650,000 - which if correct would probably well above that of most other clubs. Why spend 20 grand on a rider who might not ride in Britain when he gets a regular GP place?. I'd just loan him if I was Leicester as it's only Poole who buy riders now. The whole point of having assetts is supposed to be so they want to ride for you but look at Miedzinski & Doyley who told Swindon to poke it & chose to ride elsewhere. What could Swindon do to stop them!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 It is now well time that the assets where stopped. None of the riders when they make it to the top take any notice of them being a club asset and will sign for a club offering the best payments and conditions they can get with another club. So what is the point of it all other than a club getting a few grand for selling them on. Only to go towards paying airfares for overseas riders. The best news coming this week is that Jason has signed for another season. He is a great rider on the track and a very nice person off the track and has all the time in the world to stop and sign autographs and have a talk to the fans and also the young supporters around the track. Just hope that the other 3 that come to make the team up, are going to be good enough to back him up next season. He had a very long and hard solo struggle at times. With a long list of guest riders that never quite did the business, hope we see a team that can challenge for the play offs next year. The fans deserve it and with all the hard work Jason puts in on the track, he also deserves a good team to be alongside him, and make the Lions really roar again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Could Larssen or Sundstrom be tempted back to the Elite League ? Both good riders on their day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 (edited) Why spend 20 grand on a rider who might not ride in Britain when he gets a regular GP place?. I'd just loan him if I was Leicester as it's only Poole who buy riders now. The whole point of having assetts is supposed to be so they want to ride for you but look at Miedzinski & Doyley who told Swindon to poke it & chose to ride elsewhere. What could Swindon do to stop them!!!! ....and I thought you were one of Doyley's biggest fans CR??! I won't gloat with the 'I told you so's'. I wonder if Rosco's spoken with Adrian yet?? Edited December 7, 2014 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 How many times did Jason actually appear in Swindon colours. They where only to pleased to let him go to Somerset, to ride and he never really got the chance to make it in Swindons full team. He had a brilliant year riding for the Lions this season and now that he has signed for the Lions again for next season, they all of a sudden want to sell him. There are far to many riders that are club assets who are palmed off to other teams either in the EL or to the PL because they can't in all honesty give them the break they need in a full team place, but all of a sudden as with other riders when they have a brilliant season, the team who they are an asset with, start a hue and cry that they belong to them. How much money do they pay the said riders per year, nothing I should imagine, but they get money from them loaning them out to others, that is like in Jason's case, who make it as a worlds top rider. The Lions should make him an asset if this is how the sport goes, but what is the point of shelling out thousands only for them to go to another team the following year that offers better tearms. The whole asset system is ridiculess. At least now we have the basics for building a decent team. Lets see who the other 3 are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 How many times did Jason actually appear in Swindon colours. They where only to pleased to let him go to Somerset, to ride and he never really got the chance to make it in Swindons full team. He rode 28 times for Swindon in 2012 when we won the league. He missed the play-off final(s) due to breaking a bone in his neck riding in the PL. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 ....and I thought you were one of Doyley's biggest fans CR??! I won't gloat with the 'I told you so's'. I wonder if Rosco's spoken with Adrian yet?? Still a fan of Doyley & if you read my other posts I admire his loyalty to Leicester as they wanted him last season when Swindon didn't. It was a no brainer for him to go back there which I said right from the start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Why spend 20 grand on a rider who might not ride in Britain when he gets a regular GP place?. I'd just loan him if I was Leicester as it's only Poole who buy riders now. The whole point of having assetts is supposed to be so they want to ride for you but look at Miedzinski & Doyley who told Swindon to poke it & chose to ride elsewhere. What could Swindon do to stop them!!!! Think from recall Swindon did that with Batchelor as a Peterboro asset - had to wait until March to claim him on loan, but i think that was only after Peterboro didn't announce him in their team. Otherwise it would have had to go to arbitration but only if the rider submits an official transfer request and a fee cant be agreed. I'm not surprised that Swindon are wanting Doyle to submit a transfer request! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Mattk ythanks for that. When a rider dosen't get a place with the team he is previously riding with. He is going to go and find alternative employment, which he did when he joined the Lions. He has enjoyed riding here which shows that he has decided to come back for next season. I still think the whole asset issue needs scraping as it is a pointless exersise. As a rider who is self employed is going to go where he can best the best offer that is avaliable to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Sounds like this Doyle transfer is heading to arbitration http://www.swindonlinksport.com/2014/12/07/10530/ When oh when will promoters learn that riders go where they want. If I was Leicester I would buy him. He is turning into a world class rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 Double standards by Swindon again. Take it they are buying Batchelor off Rick & Julie with the Doyle money ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeicesterLion39 Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 Double standards by Swindon again. Take it they are buying Batchelor off Rick & Julie with the Doyle money ? Dont be silly, Swindon have got sour grapes because Doyley wants to ride for a better run club than Swindon. Yes we may not have the best track but its getting there but we had on average the biggest crowds Elite League and take a fair few away with us as well... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double_O Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 we had on average the biggest crowds Elite League and take a fair few away with us as well... That's so funny. Would like you to prove that ridiculous statement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 Double standards by Swindon again. Take it they are buying Batchelor off Rick & Julie with the Doyle money ? Swindon have tried to make contact with Frost about buying Troy but got no response but don't let that stand in the way of your bitterness!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointsmeanplayoffs Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 Why anyone would buy an asset in speedway today is beyond me when there is so little money about. No riders are investment opportunities really, you are best just to claim young riders as assets and hope to sell them on at a price later on when they develop. Still can't see the wisdom in Lynn buying Schlein to be honest. Was he really THAT essential to team building at the time that we had to buy him? Could a club like Swindon actually stop Doyle from riding at Leicester? I doubt that. Has it ever happened before? Would be a legal minefield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 Why anyone would buy an asset in speedway today is beyond me when there is so little money about. No riders are investment opportunities really, you are best just to claim young riders as assets and hope to sell them on at a price later on when they develop. Still can't see the wisdom in Lynn buying Schlein to be honest. Was he really THAT essential to team building at the time that we had to buy him? Could a club like Swindon actually stop Doyle from riding at Leicester? I doubt that. Has it ever happened before? Would be a legal minefield. Because if it costs for example £2000 a year to loan a rider but you can buy him for £10,000 then as long as he rides for 6 years you'll make money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabbsjoe Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 Why anyone would buy an asset in speedway today is beyond me when there is so little money about. No riders are investment opportunities really, you are best just to claim young riders as assets and hope to sell them on at a price later on when they develop. Still can't see the wisdom in Lynn buying Schlein to be honest. Was he really THAT essential to team building at the time that we had to buy him? Could a club like Swindon actually stop Doyle from riding at Leicester? I doubt that. Has it ever happened before? Would be a legal minefield. the whole asset system is a legal minefield, still can't work out how a club can technically own a rider when the riders are essentially independent contractors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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