engineman Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Harris' form is perplexing, to say the least. But then take a look at some of the others too. Zagar (mixed tonight), Andersen (poor in the GP challenge, but back on form tonight), etc. Perhaps the schedule is just too much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Jasper Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 More wonderful Bees memories created at Kirky Lane tonight. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Wonder if kings lynn think that perhaps riding second may have been the best option In hindsight maybe but I believe going 1st was the right thing to do. Dodgy weather, crashes, curfews etc it would have been crazy to have risked riding 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 If the ref doesn't stop you why not A single meeting or a double header should make no difference to a ref calling them but it clearly has tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonbee48 Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Perhaps the Bees should make sure that Barker stays injured and keep Summers in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Not wanting to take anything away from Coventry who deserved their win but BV riders were slow from the gate and I think made Bees look better than they were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyfan Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Belle Vue and especially Zagar, didn't seem interested in the second match. Only Scotty seemed to put in any effort against Coventry. Zagar just seemed to have GPitis. If he didn't, I wouldn't want him guesting for my team in the play offs!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fever Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Ah well, gratz to Poole on topping the league, albeit by the skin of their teeth, but Lynn just didn't have it together tonight. Hansi was a good replacement for Niels but we needed Rory to compensate for the hapless Harris and he just didn't do it. Niklas Robert and Lewis went off the boil as the track slickened even more. Was impressed with Max Clegg's efforts though - good on him. And so to next week for probably our final home match of the season - only hope we have is if Ken is back and in blistering form and we manage to find a guest as committed as Andersen was tonight, but lets face it - all the best riders are in the p-offs anyway and surely will not be able to guest?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Poor night from Bomber and his bike issues need sorting. Get it right and you get results that we seen on Saturday. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Why did they keep going on about getting a replacement for rose when he got replaced by simon lambert ages ago 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Most pleasing thing from a Bees POV is that Kenneth Hansen looked like a speedway rider tonight for the first time in months - thank God! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny bee firefly Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Perhaps the Bees should make sure that Barker stays injured and keep Summers in there. Summers was guesting for howarth !! Cant see him filling in for barker in a heat leader position !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Summers was guesting for howarth !! Cant see him filling in for barker in a heat leader position !! Yep it's much harder as a heat leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 How frustrating a rider is Zagar? Looks world class on his day and I enjoyed his sublime skills on a speedway machine in his brilliant season at Swindon when he and Leigh Adams were simply invincible together. However, he seems to produce only when he's in the mood nowadays. Why does he never ride in heat 15's? Surely it is not acceptable when points are at stake? Has there ever been an explanation for this? Isn't it the Aces fans who lose out? Matej is now a GP regular but you are still likely to get a scintillating maximum one week, followed by a very poor performance the next. The enigma that is Matej Zagar. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 (edited) It would appear to be that way. As i said though, it's gone beyond a joke. Letting his team down, as well as himself.To be fair there haven't been many meetings this season where Harris has had bike problems for the bees. Would rather he had them tonight than Monday. Hansen was useless at coventry on monday now he is 1st and 2nd what is it that changes things? Equipment???Has had his whole engine rebuilt and had alot of help from Havvy. Can see he's more confident which helps. Also interesting that he was using different mechanic as his usual was riding for Coventry storm. Not wanting to take anything away from Coventry who deserved their win but BV riders were slow from the gate and I think made Bees look better than they were. Bees thrashed Belle Vue on last visit as well. How Coventry rode tonight is how they have been alot of the season, it's just been frustrating that our worst meetings have always been our sky ones until now. Edited September 22, 2014 by mdmc82 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bee 26 Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Bees are always better on a smaller track, hence why I think we will struggle at Swindon If Hansen can ride like he did tonight then maybe we can keep it close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 Why did they keep going on about getting a replacement for rose when he got replaced by simon lambert ages ago Simon Lambert was a replacement for Rose, only because his injuries wouldn't allow him to ride again this year. Lambert was given this position from the list of Assets/ FTR lists but is in no way equal to the talents of Lewis Rose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 Simon Lambert was a replacement for Rose, only because his injuries wouldn't allow him to ride again this year. Lambert was given this position from the list of Assets/ FTR lists but is in no way equal to the talents of Lewis Rose. Yes I know but they were talking about guests and lewis rose being missing, I would be more worried about lewis kerr than lambert, who is still miles better than compton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 It is a shame about all these injuries. I am intrigued by two ex riders who are commentators who occasionally make critical comments about the bikes. Particularly about silencers. Are the bikes really more dangerous.?? The thing about over runs on the engine when shutting off is interesting - the power not shutting off as it should on normal bikes. Silencers were always very important on two strokes in my days but less so on 4 srokes Anyone who is an expert know more about this?? the problem is the bikes are high reving and the back wheels are skating across the surface .when you shut the throttle the wheel slows and starts to pick up traction so for 1 second the bike picks up actual speed although the back wheel is slowing .this is different to other sports because they are not wheel spining .there wheels do 70mph and there bike is doing 70mph ,in speedway if the bike is doing 70mph the back wheel is doing 90mph. The problem with the cuuent silencer is its design creates back pressure and makw the it nessesary to keep the engines at full rev to keep the speed up. If you have to shut off because the power needed is at the top revs it takes a few seconds to get it back and on a speedway track that few seconds is kerb to fence and the bike is driving forward rather than the wheel spinning. The old silencers didnt create back pressure and in long stroke engine there was more managable power between bottom and top of rev range so was easier to get out of trouble. Im sure there is a lesson for speedway to learn in this but i doubt it will 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 (edited) the problem is the bikes are high reving and the back wheels are skating across the surface .when you shut the throttle the wheel slows and starts to pick up traction so for 1 second the bike picks up actual speed although the back wheel is slowing .this is different to other sports because they are not wheel spining .there wheels do 70mph and there bike is doing 70mph ,in speedway if the bike is doing 70mph the back wheel is doing 90mph. The problem with the cuuent silencer is its design creates back pressure and makw the it nessesary to keep the engines at full rev to keep the speed up. If you have to shut off because the power needed is at the top revs it takes a few seconds to get it back and on a speedway track that few seconds is kerb to fence and the bike is driving forward rather than the wheel spinning. The old silencers didnt create back pressure and in long stroke engine there was more managable power between bottom and top of rev range so was easier to get out of trouble. Im sure there is a lesson for speedway to learn in this but i doubt it willGood Post Sometimes not easy to understand the technical issues on this forum if you haven't got practical knowledge. Edited September 23, 2014 by New Science Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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