Birmingham Brummies - Has The Come Back Trail Started?

[ProudtobeaBrummie]

Arthur there has been many re generation plans in recent years many include flattening perry barr . Now I know for a fact about 2 years ago this was close to happening

[tsc1]

 

Have you seen the attendance at a BAGS meeting? - The dogs owners are there, and maybe some close family. That's it. If they are relying on television broadcast revenues then they are on a dodgy wicket for the long term IMHO

A BAGS MEETING IS WORTH ABOUT £10,000 TO THE GRA SO NO NEED FOR BIG CROWDS TO BE THERE/////////

[Dave Jones]

Arthur there has been many re generation plans in recent years many include flattening perry barr . Now I know for a fact about 2 years ago this was close to happening

I understood that the grandstand at Perry Barr had a preservation order placed on it some time ago.?

[Guest]

I understood that the grandstand at Perry Barr had a preservation order placed on it some time ago.?

Why a preservation order on the grandstand? Has it historical significance? Who placed it - English Heritage?

Edited September 29, 2014 by Guest

[Dave Jones]

I'm not sure at all. There is something in my mind that I once read in the local press about the grandstand being protected in some shape or form. It may have been when the extension was added to the side of the original stand a few years ago.

 

Perhaps others may know?

Edited September 29, 2014 by Dave Jones

[TheReturn]

Under Tony Mole things should be done the right way for a long term plan, rather than short term plan. If I was a Brummie fan, I would be hopeful under Mole's guidance.

 

As one man ever done more for the sport of Speedway across the UK?

[OGT]

I'm not sure at all. There is something in my mind that I once read in the local press about the grandstand being protected in some shape or form. It may have been when the extension was added to the side of the original stand a few years ago.

 

Perhaps others may know?

There is some sort of protection order on the stand, yes.

[brianbuck]

I can confirm that the central part of the grandstand is a listed building. The stand has been extended twice since the stadium was recovered from the derelict state it was left in by the original owners Birchfield Harriers, and on both occasions this had to be by building the extensions around the original structure.

 

If you walk round to the rear of the stand, the listed part can easily be made out. It is in the very centre of the structure and the leaping deer emblem of Birchfield Harriers and their motto "fleet and free" is clearly visible.

I have known Tony Mole for well over 25 years and know that he prefers to keep his cards very close to his chest until such time as his plans are signed and sealed, but the fact that the meeting he has called for this coming Wednesday is taking place at the stadium is an indication that he has made progress since the GRA have been refusing access to anyone connected with the speedway since the previous promotion went under.

[OGT]

I can confirm that the central part of the grandstand is a listed building. The stand has been extended twice since the stadium was recovered from the derelict state it was left in by the original owners Birchfield Harriers, and on both occasions this had to be by building the extensions around the original structure.

 

If you walk round to the rear of the stand, the listed part can easily be made out. It is in the very centre of the structure and the leaping deer emblem of Birchfield Harriers and their motto "fleet and free" is clearly visible.

I have known Tony Mole for well over 25 years and know that he prefers to keep his cards very close to his chest until such time as his plans are signed and sealed, but the fact that the meeting he has called for this coming Wednesday is taking place at the stadium is an indication that he has made progress since the GRA have been refusing access to anyone connected with the speedway since the previous promotion went under.

Further to that, this is taken from the official site

 

The Stadium which will stage speedway in 2007 was the venue for the first ever speedway meeting in Birmingham on 12th July 1928. 12 meetings were staged at that venue that season, the last one being on 1st September 1928. This stadium was originally known as The Alexander Sports Stadium and was given as a gift to Birchfield Harriers Athletic Club by Lord Alexander in 1877 on condition that it remained a sports venue in perpetuity. (This condition prevented Birmingham City Council from selling the land to Sainsbury's in 1978).

 

[Brummie Kev]

I guess its a good job the main grandstand is a listed building and the land is protected given the Council is in the process of selling off many of its assets. They of course have a massive legal bill (£1.1Billion) to due with the Gender equality ruling not ruling in their favour a few months back.They have put the NEC group up for sale and it could be sold by the end of the year.

 

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Did anyone read the the Mercury on Sunday, there was a bit about Phil Morris and didnt rule out a return to the Brummies should we return. Would love to have him back on board.

[ProudtobeaBrummie]

It will need someone like Morris to get the trust of the riders back to .. Some riders will be unkeen to sign with what has previously gone on

[uk_martin]

I can confirm that the central part of the grandstand is a listed building.

 

Additionally the land on which the stadium is built has a deed of covenant on it, requiring it to be used for sporting purposes...although which sport is staged there has changed over the years and has included athletics, greyhound racing, and speedway, as well as occasional forays into American Football and other passing sports. It will go on as a sports stadium in the new Perry Barr redevelopment plan, but there is no stipulation as to what sports are to continue there into the future.

[OGT]

No good news yet.

 

http://www.birminghambrummies.co/news.php?extend.1999

[brianbuck]

Nothing definite can be announced just yet. Tony Mole is by nature, a very cautious man so unsurprisingly, he is not going to say that the new venture is up and running until it IS upand running. A great deal of background work has been done to date and I remain very hopeful of a successful conclusion in due course.

[greyhoundp]

Not really for this thread, but next Tuesday Cradley Heathens are at home to The Brummies in a challenge match, The Brummies will be led by Adam Roynon, supported by Simon Lambert hopefully with those 2 riders heading them up, we should have some interesting racing, just needs another 5 decent riders, 3 of heat leader standard and 2 decent reserves, it would be nice to see Danny Ayres in one of the reserve positions for Brum and possibly Ellis Perks. Adam Ellis and Charles or James Wright would be good to see around Monmore, whoever they can get it needs to be competitive.

[Guest]

On the BSF website:

http://www.speedwaygb.co/news.php?extend.27439

Not really for this thread, but next Tuesday Cradley Heathens are at home to The Brummies in a challenge match, The Brummies will be led by Adam Roynon, supported by Simon Lambert hopefully with those 2 riders heading them up, we should have some interesting racing, just needs another 5 decent riders, 3 of heat leader standard and 2 decent reserves, it would be nice to see Danny Ayres in one of the reserve positions for Brum and possibly Ellis Perks. Adam Ellis and Charles or James Wright would be good to see around Monmore, whoever they can get it needs to be competitive.

What does this prove? In the old days the home side would have raced oppnents probably labelled as The Rest! Nowadays these matches are used to create the myth that there are more clubs than actually exist. How many of the named Birmingham riders have appeared for them?

Edited October 3, 2014 by Guest

[greyhoundp]

On the BSF website:

http://www.speedwaygb.co/news.php?extend.27439

What does this prove? In the old days the home side would have raced oppnents probably labelled as The Rest! Nowadays these matches are used to create the myth that there are more clubs than actually exist. How many of the named Birmingham riders have appeared for them?

 

 

Simon Lambert Brummie rider 2014, Adam Roynon past Brummie rider, James Wright past Brummie rider, Throw in Nico Covatti, and Jon Armstrong and you have 5 ex Brummies plus the two NL reserves.. so YES there are ex Birmingham riders that could be used to make this a competitive meeting.

Edited October 3, 2014 by greyhoundp

[P T Preece]

Cockle, Armstong and Halsey ex Brummies still riding.

[uk_martin]

Here's food for thought for anyone convinced that the PL is the answer...Peterborough are citing losses of £60,000 in the last year as the reason why Mick Horton (honourable man that he is - ) is pulling out of his arrangement with messrs Frost and Maloney.

 

 

http://www.speedwaygb.co/news.php?extend.27463.20

[ch958]

Here's food for thought for anyone convinced that the PL is the answer...Peterborough are citing losses of £60,000 in the last year as the reason why Mick Horton (honourable man that he is - ) is pulling out of his arrangement with messrs Frost and Maloney.'d

 

 

http://www.speedwaygb.co/news.php?extend.27463.20

 

well if EL was the answer they'd still be there