stevebrum Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Just looked at the updates. Hadn't Wolves sacked Ricky Wells? Shocking. Eastbourne looking beatable away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 To be truthful, the Premier League is more appealing, not because it has better riders in it, which it hasn't (although, with doubling up, aren't many the same actors in different costumes?), it is because it has variety. It also has the presence that the people that take part actually do so because they have a passion for the sport, for racing and giving full effort to the customers. The Premier League is suited better to the product we should be aiming for. Apart from, say, three riders... is the so-called top flight better than the PL? Some people prefer one. Some prefer the other. Personally I've always preferred Swindon to be in the top flight. The difference is that I don't feel the need to go onto PL topics and randomly claim that our league is better than your league nyah nyah nyahhhh. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudflaps Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 I just had a look at the Peterborough team. It's kind of hilarious to believe that the side they currently have is even close to the standard of Swindon and Coventry. Even with fast track reserves Swindon would probably hit around 70 against that lot. Whats that got to do with the price of fish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Whats that got to do with the price of fish? It has absolutely nothing to do with the price of fish. What it does have to do with is this. You decided to come onto here and have a pop at the Elite League, stating that the standard of the teams is not Elite. You support a Premier League side. Premier, in the dictionary link provided, means "first in importance, order, or position; leading". One would expect, therefore, that teams in the Premier League would be the strongest sides in the country. The fact that the Peterborough side is a lot weaker in strength than an Elite League side (and that one of Swindon's fast track reserves would actually be a heatleader in your side) is what it has to do with. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 It has absolutely nothing to do with the price of fish. What it does have to do with is this. You decided to come onto here and have a pop at the Elite League, stating that the standard of the teams is not Elite. You support a Premier League side. Premier, in the dictionary link provided, means "first in importance, order, or position; leading". One would expect, therefore, that teams in the Premier League would be the strongest sides in the country. The fact that the Peterborough side is a lot weaker in strength than an Elite League side (and that one of Swindon's fast track reserves would actually be a heatleader in your side) is what it has to do with. Why oh why do PL supporters believe their product is better and as strong as the top league in the UK? It is neither. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Some people prefer one. Some prefer the other. Personally I've always preferred Swindon to be in the top flight. The difference is that I don't feel the need to go onto PL topics and randomly claim that our league is better than your league nyah nyah nyahhhh. Yes, we all have our opinions, but I watched speedway for 30-plus years at Belle Vue, always in the top tier, but over time I became a fan of not just one club, but the whole sport. I would watch anything speedway themed. All I am saying, as you are entitled to your tastes, that for me... I believe the men of the Premier League have the desire to serve who they are riding for and who pays their wages, in much better ways than the top flighters, who appear akin to lovers in the night - do the business and up and leave. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Stevie Worrall is owned by an EL club Who owns Dak? Don't think I ever mentioned who owned Stevie's contract. I just mentioned his PL club who have priority of fixtures since he only signed to his EL club mid-season and obviously doesn't ride for them. And I didn't realise Dak had max'ed last night - thought it was Nick Morris. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoombdog Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 I found out the multi poster one the other week on FB yet people defended her. All her names on FB, twitter and on here connect and I can't believe people didn't find it earlier. As for the result oops!!! Help me out mate because i'm struggling to understand this multi poster thing! So far i've blocked mdmc82, champion 2010 and sienna ryan. Any more out there I should be aware of? Looking back its actually proper mental because she was replying to herself the other day! That level of weirdness just blows my mind! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 (edited) Don't think I ever mentioned who owned Stevie's contract. I just mentioned his PL club who have priority of fixtures since he only signed to his EL club mid-season and obviously doesn't ride for them. And I didn't realise Dak had max'ed last night - thought it was Nick Morris. Oh yea of course, it was Morris who also scored a maximum. Both owned by EL clubs. But of course take your point that Stevies PL club take priority (under current rules). Edited September 9, 2014 by stevebrum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudflaps Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 (edited) Why oh why do PL supporters believe their product is better and as strong as the top league in the UK? It is neither. nobody is saying that you Jocky! First and formally I am a speedway fan in general. All levels and all countries - Including SGP. I am stating that the Elite League is indeed a piss poor product - please look up the definition of Elite - you may need to continue your education to a higher level to be able to achieve that. After the standard of Coventry's performance last night the product should be called the El $hite! I do hope Sky ditch the Elite league and show Premier League meetings from next season... Edited September 9, 2014 by Flyin Panther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 (edited) Elite League clubs have tried every single year to take away the Premier League brand name from the 2nd division. When you market Premier League speedway, You're marketing the premier form of speedway to the majority of the public. It costs EL promoters thousands and there's nothing you can do about it. Edited September 9, 2014 by Morrissey Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 All I am saying, as you are entitled to your tastes, that for me... I believe the men of the Premier League have the desire to serve who they are riding for and who pays their wages, in much better ways than the top flighters, who appear akin to lovers in the night - do the business and up and leave. Except that in many cases , such as Peterboro and a few others the PL clubs are not paying the riders wages, so that league is hardly the resounding success that some would have us believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 'A select group that is superior in terms of ability or qualities to the rest of a group or society'. Therefore the EL is the top league in the UK. Look, there is no doubt the EL has plenty of issues, mainly centre around rider availability, but saying its rubbish because one team thrashed another on telly is daft. Have a look at Edinburgh & Somerset's home scores this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 If you are prepared to pay £17 + petrol money for that load of old cac then you are more than welcome.... Elite League my arse! Yeah, I agree. We need to get back to the Golden Age Of Speedway when every match was a close fought 40-38 and one-sided matches never happened. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 nobody is saying that you Jocky! First and formally I am a speedway fan in general. All levels and all countries - Including SGP. I am stating that the Elite League is indeed a piss poor product - please look up the definition of Elite - you may need to continue your education to a higher level to be able to achieve that. After the standard of Coventry's performance last night the product should be called the El $hite! I do hope Sky ditch the Elite league and show Premier League meetings from next season... Its clear you are a PL Speedway fan first and foremost. Why don't YOU look up the definition of Premier jocky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 nobody is saying that you Jocky! First and formally I am a speedway fan in general. All levels and all countries - Including SGP. I am stating that the Elite League is indeed a piss poor product - please look up the definition of Elite - you may need to continue your education to a higher level to be able to achieve that. After the standard of Coventry's performance last night the product should be called the El $hite! I do hope Sky ditch the Elite league and show Premier League meetings from next season... Thats astounding logic. The EL is $hite because Coventry lost? ~50% of teams lose in the PL too. What does this say about the PL? http://speedwayupdates.proboards.com/thread/13865/rye-house-edinburgh-pl-7pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Thats astounding logic. The EL is $hite because Coventry lost? ~50% of teams lose in the PL too. The Elite League is crap because it is not Elite. End of. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliant Robin Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 The Elite League is crap because it is not Elite. End of. Which would make the Premier League crap because it's not Premier. Great stuff 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 There's no reason to believe it's as strong (in terms of ability - although there's lots of cross-over), but it's perfectly acceptable from a subjective perspective to believe it's better.As for the need to tell people, that's just human nature - just as it is for soem people to always want the last word . And its nice of you to event a new word to add to the discussion. Better is indeed subjective. And it certainly doesn't stop the PL fans telling us so over and over and over. Doesn't make it true, just subjective. The Elite League is crap because it is not Elite. End of. Likewise the PL is NOT Premier. Poor attempt of a point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 (edited) Which would make the Premier League crap because it's not Premier. Great stuff Hardly the same. Elite League is meant to be the pinnacle of our sport in the UK and it suggests a league full of the best and most elite riders in our sport from numbers 1-5. I don't think the present Elite League matches that latter description. And its nice of you to event a new word to add to the discussion. Better is indeed subjective. And it certainly doesn't stop the PL fans telling us so over and over and over. Doesn't make it true, just subjective. Likewise the PL is NOT Premier. Poor attempt of a point. Or rather your poor attempt to debate my point. Rather than prove to me that the Elite League is in fact Elite... which you can't! you deflect to the Premier League. Poor show chaps, poor show. Edited September 9, 2014 by TheReturn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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