markyb Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 In my opinion, the draft system has worked fantastic - especially so for team GB in the near future. The likes of Newman, Garrity, Bates, Blackbird, Sargent & Nielsen et al have excelled and progressed much quicker had the "draft" not been in place. ok it may may take 2 years or so, but given time, these "kids" are the future and could produce the good times again, given the right encouragement and backing - and Mr Rossiter is the ideal person for do this. British speedway may not be dead after all !! Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcts Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 It depends on which team you support.......In my opinion certain teams are at too much of a disadvantage before the racing even starts and the worst thing is that they can't be replaced even though some of them are out of their depths. I think Elite reserves should be British and only 1 per team,sourced from the Premier the likes of Roynon,Birks,Auty,Worral,Charles Wright etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 success - which will only improve as time goes on we have to stick with the draft - teams are still struggling financially, teams carnt afford to go back to the old formula , because to compete with the top teams like poole who would under the old system bring in 2 foreigners on fake low averages but big wages , other teams simply carnt afford 2 reserves like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) next seasons draft :- keep the same riders in the draft, each team to have top draft rider riding at 6 and a not so good draft rider at 7 work it so that the good draft number 6 has one ride where he meets head leader/s ie home team rider number 3 and 6 versus away team rider number 3 and 6 number 7 same as now the 1-5:- this season has been ridiculous with the number of guests r/r its about time the elite did away with double up riders and went back to old way of a standard 1-5 fans would then know there team each week without need for guests , only if injuries Edited September 5, 2014 by heathen chemistry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 I think it's been good but the pay situation needs to be looked at. Their points are just as important as anyone else's in the team but having to keep 2 bikes up to EL standard on £40 a point means that some of them are in the kind of debt which may see them retire from the sport before next season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 I think it's quite good, and the riders look decent enough when racing at their own level. You only have to see the number of Swindon fans who now have Steve Worrall down as rider of the year and a future World Champion to see that the riders look fine against each other. I do think it would be good to have some sort of continuity next year. Maybe teams should have the option to retain this years FTR as a first option in much the same way they were allowed first options on assets this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcts Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) I do think it would be good to have some sort of continuity next year. Maybe teams should have the option to retain this years FTR as a first option in much the same way they were allowed first options on assets this year. Like that's fair? So teams who picked poorly this season will have there hands tied behind there backs next season whilst the likes of Blackbird,Garrity,Kerr and Worrall rack up the points again against riders patently below that standard distorting match results.Any fast track rider averaging over 7 points should not be allowed to ride as a reserve next season they should be in the main body of the team like Robert Lambert. Edited September 5, 2014 by mrcts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 I think it's been good but the pay situation needs to be looked at. Their points are just as important as anyone else's in the team but having to keep 2 bikes up to EL standard on £40 a point means that some of them are in the kind of debt which may see them retire from the sport before next season. Do clubs honestly "have" to stick to that? Bonuses? :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 Like that's fair? So teams who picked poorly this season will have there hands tied behind there backs next season whilst the likes of Blackbird,Garrity,Kerr and Worrall rack up the points again against riders patently below that standard distorting match results. Any fast track rider averaging over 7 points should not be allowed to ride as a reserve next season they should be in the main body of the team like Robert Lambert. I'd prefer to see Auty, Roynon and Birks added to the draft instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 I think this years' ftrs need to be kept on at reserve and I'd like to see a few more of the guys who missed out/were left out this season added to the list so everyone has a strong reserve. Would also like to see the A graders to have one more harder race too. 2016 would be the time to put them into the team proper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castrolargh Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 It would be even better if the PL were to adopt the fast track system as well to form a more natural progression from national league, through the premier league and then onto elite. Riders such as kerr, garrity, blackbird, newman as no7, wiith the likes of auty , roynon as no6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 Like that's fair? So teams who picked poorly this season will have there hands tied behind there backs next season whilst the likes of Blackbird,Garrity,Kerr and Worrall rack up the points again against riders patently below that standard distorting match results. Really? I bet all clubs apart from Leicester would retain one of their FT riders, even BV with Nielsen, Wolves Morris & Lakeside Ellis, just leaving Leicester to get Charles Wright. The second choice FT riders could then be picked like last year with the team with the weakest first choice having first pick etc. I do agree that some FT riders appear ready to move into the main body of the team but only because the FT scheme weakens their heats & unfortunately there aren't enough new FT riders to replace them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 If the FTR system was introduced solely to assist the development of young Brits (which we know it wasn't - it was to cut costs), then really only the best dozen or so plus those that missed out ie the Auty's, Birks of this world, have any realistic chance of ever representing Team GB. With due respect to the others they would be better off plying their trade in the PL/NL. EL 2015 = 1 FTR only!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCOGNITO Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 The riders in the draft system that appears to be doing well have virtually averaged the same in the Premier League as last season so in that aspect it hasn't worked However getting more track time has seen Jason Garrity do well in the British Final and Kyle Newman has been in great form and beating good riders If they have the talent then it will work but overall you can't compare it if they are mainly riding against each other. Next year should be one draft rider and one British reserve loke Garrity or Blackbird and the format changed to just one reserves race which should see them being tested a bit more. At the end of the day the Premier League should be doing something like this with National League riders instead of employing foreign riders that season after season haven't progressed to anything like the average they first appeared on. The riders in the draft system that appears to be doing well have virtually averaged the same in the Premier League as last season so in that aspect it hasn't worked However getting more track time has seen Jason Garrity do well in the British Final and Kyle Newman has been in great form and beating good riders If they have the talent then it will work but overall you can't compare it if they are mainly riding against each other. Next year should be one draft rider and one British reserve loke Garrity or Blackbird and the format changed to just one reserves race which should see them being tested a bit more. At the end of the day the Premier League should be doing something like this with National League riders instead of employing foreign riders that season after season haven't progressed to anything like the average they first appeared on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25yearfan Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 Its made the meetings more interestign seeing more British names but its very disjointed with many EL fast track riders not good enough for the League below the PL! Maybe this should of been done in the PL with the EL being British riders with PL averages over 6? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 If Kerr and Blackbird are averaging the same in the PL this year as last then they are going forward seeing as they were at reserve last season and this time round they have been second strings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 I'd prefer to see Auty, Roynon and Birks added to the draft instead. I agree. Keep the number 6 berth for the `successes` - and include the 3 above mentioned. The only difference to this year would be those riders get a `true` EL average and can be elevated into the main team if there averages increases above the 1-5. Number 7`s should be all about the TRUE FTR. Less rigidity on the draft `list`for these riders. Hopefully the PL will come on board and all the leagues can work in harmony. OK that last bit was wishful thinking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenspoon Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 Really? I bet all clubs apart from Leicester would retain one of their FT riders, even BV with Nielsen, Wolves Morris & Lakeside Ellis, just leaving Leicester to get Charles Wright. The second choice FT riders could then be picked like last year with the team with the weakest first choice having first pick etc. I do agree that some FT riders appear ready to move into the main body of the team but only because the FT scheme weakens their heats & unfortunately there aren't enough new FT riders to replace them. Considering Steve Worrall is a Belle Vue asset, I hardly think even our promotion would be stupid enough not to claim him for 2015. It would be nice to have Nielsen as well,. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 Considering Steve Worrall is a Belle Vue asset, I hardly think even our promotion would be stupid enough not to claim him for 2015. It would be nice to have Nielsen as well,. If the rules are unchanged and we manage to finish bottom, possible if we don't get adequate replacements for Nielsen, then might be a difficult choice between Steve and Garrity. If I were a cynic I might say there's no chance the rules won't be changed, just as they were this year from draft riders going to their local track to being able to claim assets then bottom team gets first pick etc. I agree best system next year would be the likes of Garrity, Birks, at 6 with different format to give them more testing rides and other FTD riders at 7 and still protected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 for me it hasnt worked,far too many fixture clashes and god forbid a good one in the top 3 or 4 gets hurt then half the time he gets replaced by a way way inferior rider. if they grade them then maybe it will help matters, overhaul needed with the whole sport tbf,. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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