SPEEDY69 Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 I said a few weeks back that each rider should drop there worst score and was told not is manufacturing things. But by doing that we'd see Puk in with a great chance of finishing 8th - and it would not effect the top 3 as Greg, Woffy and KK all have a 0 next to their name (KK has two amazingly!) It means riders don't get lucky with making the top 8. As it stands, one of Lindgren or AJ could make the top 8 just because better riders have got injured. I agree with this in respect of those riders 'lucky' to get in that you identify. Difficult one though because there are always those who get promoted in the standings due to other riders being injured/withdrawing/suspended, as you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJC Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 Got a feeling that if/when Greg becomes world champ this year he may retire opening the door for 9th place to qualify automatically! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 Got a feeling that if/when Greg becomes world champ this year he may retire opening the door for 9th place to qualify automatically! VERY much doubt that ... still loves his racing and from recent conversations has no intention of hanging up his leathers just yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 I reckon batch deserves another crack next year but will proberly not get a pick.not a blue eyed boy I reckon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 Yes, I would like to see Batch riding. Both he and harris were short on time to prepare but one has progressed as the year has gone on, but the other is already in next years series. Cant change that obviously but thats why Batch should be in, apart from him being a racer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 I think they should change the qualification rules - the wild cards may then become even more of a talking point. The permanent 15 riders in the series that year should not be allowed to compete in the qualifiers, thereby giving as many riders as possible the chance to qualify (from those picked by each country in the first place of course). Those 15 already have their qualification series over the year whereby the top 8 qualify and the rest don't - why should they get two chances? Imagine if all 15 choose to go through the qualifiers, as they could under the existing system, the challenge could simply be another GP!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 Got a feeling that if/when Greg becomes world champ this year he may retire opening the door for 9th place to qualify automatically! People said that a few years ago. He's still going! I think they should change the qualification rules - the wild cards may then become even more of a talking point. The permanent 15 riders in the series that year should not be allowed to compete in the qualifiers, thereby giving as many riders as possible the chance to qualify (from those picked by each country in the first place of course). Those 15 already have their qualification series over the year whereby the top 8 qualify and the rest don't - why should they get two chances? Imagine if all 15 choose to go through the qualifiers, as they could under the existing system, the challenge could simply be another GP!! So what? If the top 15 riders in the World are in the GP series then they should stay. What you're saying is even if you are 9th to 15th in the World you should be kicked out to be replaced by 16th to 22nd in the World. Great World Championship that would be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 People said that a few years ago. He's still going! So what? If the top 15 riders in the World are in the GP series then they should stay. What you're saying is even if you are 9th to 15th in the World you should be kicked out to be replaced by 16th to 22nd in the World. Great World Championship that would be! AGREE ... the blunt truth is that there is actually a paucity of top class contenders at present although hopefully that may change. But as of now, is Jonasson better than Jonsson or Lindgren, which British rider is better than Harris, is there a Pole better than Hampel? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 People said that a few years ago. He's still going! So what? If the top 15 riders in the World are in the GP series then they should stay. What you're saying is even if you are 9th to 15th in the World you should be kicked out to be replaced by 16th to 22nd in the World. Great World Championship that would be! Qualification, whether through the top 8 or the qualifiers does not result in the top 15 riders in the world being in the series - merely those who have 'qualified' to be in the GP series. The 'top 15' would be difficult to agree if juts selected, howvere that was done. The point I'm making is why should current GP riders have two ways of qualifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 AGREE ... the blunt truth is that there is actually a paucity of top class contenders at present although hopefully that may change. But as of now, is Jonasson better than Jonsson or Lindgren, which British rider is better than Harris, is there a Pole better than Hampel?Plenty of good riders outside the gps in my view. Kildermand, mjj, lagutas, thj, vaculik, zmarzlik, pawlickis etc. None likely to be top 3 but could challenge for the top 8. Add emil to that list who clearly could be a title contender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 Hampel in the Top 8 saves a lot of headaches and hopefully with AJ in there, the wild-card picks should be clear cut. Iversen Ward Grigory Laguta Jepsen Jensen Providing Emil isn't interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 On form this year the four wild cards would be: Nki Emil Ward Kildermand Followed by vaculik and a young pole if ward/emil dropped out? Suspect a swede will get a wild card though. G laguta would be an excellent addition to the series, but unlikely to get one (does he actually want to ride gps?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabbsjoe Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 is the German market important for BSI ? what with Smolinski winning a GP this year, could they give him a wild card 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 There is a strong rumour that we will get a German SGP next year, BUT as long as no German TV station is prepared to buy the rights for SGP/SWC (and believe me, this will not happen), there is not much hope for Smoli to be chosen for a permanent wildcard in 2015. He will surely get the local wildcard for that German SGP, but that's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 Hampel in the Top 8 saves a lot of headaches and hopefully with AJ in there, the wild-card picks should be clear cut. Iversen Ward Grigory Laguta Jepsen Jensen Providing Emil isn't interested. Ward shouldnt be allowed in. Laguta doesnt want to be in Kildemand should be picked ahead of MJJ Iversen, Kildemand, either Lindgren or Jonsson, either Batchelor or Holder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 AGREE ... the blunt truth is that there is actually a paucity of top class contenders at present although hopefully that may change. But as of now, is Jonasson better than Jonsson or Lindgren, which British rider is better than Harris, is there a Pole better than Hampel? There is only one way to find out. I think the GP-series have stagnated and probably needs a set of new faces. If Jonsson and/or Lindgren misses out on top 8, I think it won't do them any harm to sit out a year. Especially Freddie who notoriously have been relying on wild cards (with 2 exceptions) so I think he have had enough wild cards already. So if either or both of AJ and FL is outside top 8, I say let Thomas H Jonasson have a go as a permanent wild card, after all he had very good performance in thus years SWC and was only 1p from qualifying in Lonigo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Beevers Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 Ward shouldnt be allowed in. Laguta doesnt want to be in Kildemand should be picked ahead of MJJ Iversen, Kildemand, either Lindgren or Jonsson, either Batchelor or Holder Tbh I disagree with all you said in my post with the exception of Laguta who isn't good enough in my opinion and NKI who should be there. This topic is really interesting because I cant remember seeing 2 posters agree on the same set of wildcards, yet quite a few years ago it was a lot easier to pick and then you have the Ward situation. Really tough pick on the selectors and someone major is going to be disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 I don't see how you can justify Kildemand over Jepsen Jensen. Kildemand's caareer achievements don't hold a candle to MJJ's and he's 3 years older. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 (edited) No way Freddie Lindgren can be justified to get another wild card. He had way to many already and have only managed to be top 8 once. Edited October 3, 2014 by Ghostwalker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 No way Freddie Lindgren can be justified to get another wild card. He had way to many already and have only managed to be top 8 once. But there are 15 Grand Prix riders. Should they not be the top 15 in the world? Or are you saying that only the top eight should be in the Grand Prix? On what criteria do you select the other seven? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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