New Science Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 SPEEDWAY in general and the SGP in particular needs the likes of the Pawlicki brothers, Zmarzlik, Kildemand, Fricke, Berntzon and (hopefully) Dudek to one day graduate to the highest level to fill the void that will naturally occur in the not too distant future... and for both Ward and Sayfutdinov to resume their own GP careers As long as there are in 3 Poles the GP, Pawlicki brothers Zmarzlic and Dudek however good they are will have to wait until 1 of the those Poles drop out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 As long as there are in 3 Poles the GP, Pawlicki brothers Zmarzlic and Dudek however good they are will have to wait until 1 of the those Poles drop out.Could be more than 3 poles in the gp, just would need to qualify as almost certainly wouldn't get a wild card Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 People have been complaining all the time about Bomber being picked. In fact many people have been complaining about him even this year when he's actually qualified. Mine was not an anti-Swede comment in favour of Brits. It's the Poles and the Danes who have missed out. I have not seen many complaining about the fact he has qualified fair and square by beating others in the qualifiers, thereby having a place in 2015 by right. I think most are disatisfied on what he is going to serve up if his 2014 form continues, and he didnt show more then a spark of GP level form this year. The only regular NOT to get to a semi, and just over a handful of total points ahead of a rider who was not a full time regular ie MJJ.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 As long as there are in 3 Poles the GP, Pawlicki brothers Zmarzlic and Dudek however good they are will have to wait until 1 of the those Poles drop out. THEY can always qualify ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 SPEEDWAY in general and the SGP in particular needs the likes of the Pawlicki brothers, Zmarzlik, Kildemand, Fricke, Berntzon and (hopefully) Dudek to one day graduate to the highest level to fill the void that will naturally occur in the not too distant future... and for both Ward and Sayfutdinov to resume their own GP careers And Sundstrom? Might as well as left Covatti as one of the reserves. After all, Covatti performed in the GP Challenge, and therefore was worthy of a reserve position. Can't understand Sundstrom's inclusion at all - Berntzon would have been a far better choice if they wanted another Swede. Are BSI/FIM going to reveal the logic behind their choices? I hope next year, they revert to taking the reserves from the challenge. This is a World Championship, not an invitational series. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 I have not seen many complaining about the fact he has qualified fair and square by beating others in the qualifiers, thereby having a place in 2015 by right. I think most are disatisfied on what he is going to serve up if his 2014 form continues, and he didnt show more then a spark of GP level form this year. The only regular NOT to get to a semi, and just over a handful of total points ahead of a rider who was not a full time regular ie MJJ.. Exactly the point I was making. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 And Sundstrom? Might as well as left Covatti as one of the reserves. After all, Covatti performed in the GP Challenge, and therefore was worthy of a reserve position. Can't understand Sundstrom's inclusion at all - Berntzon would have been a far better choice if they wanted another Swede. Are BSI/FIM going to reveal the logic behind their choices? I hope next year, they revert to taking the reserves from the challenge. This is a World Championship, not an invitational series. All the best Rob But it is to a certain extent now ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Tbh the Euro Championship will probably have the more exciting line-up.Really can't work up any enthusiasm for this lot My opinion of course,but i am not sure there has ever been a blander line-up for a world title challenge..... With the retirements of Trick, Crump, Adams and Gollob in recent years, we need to see Tai, KK, Magic, Emil, Darcy step up to become the 'real deal' to replace them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 SPEEDWAY in general and the SGP in particular needs the likes of the Pawlicki brothers, Zmarzlik, Kildemand, Fricke, Berntzon and (hopefully) Dudek to one day graduate to the highest level to fill the void that will naturally occur in the not too distant future... and for both Ward and Sayfutdinov to resume their own GP careers Void? Strange word. Since the GPs started we have seen the retirements of so many real stars; Nielsen, Rickardsson, Crump et al. No void. This last year we managed without Gollob, Emil and, for the most part, Ward. No void. When Nicki goes we will miss him, a little. But no void. When Greg goes, we will barely bat an eyelid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 YOU might not bat an eyelid when Greg retires but I'm pretty sure thousands will. The reception he received in Torun last weekend was testimony to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 YOU might not bat an eyelid when Greg retires but I'm pretty sure thousands will. The reception he received in Torun last weekend was testimony to that. I have stood and cheered, many time, when Greg has won GPs ... at least ten to my immediate memory. But that still does not really validate the term 'void' if he were to retire. Two totally different things, strangely confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 I have stood and cheered, many time, when Greg has won GPs ... at least ten to my immediate memory. But that still does not really validate the term 'void' if he were to retire. Two totally different things, strangely confused. NOT really ... is there another American rider to fill the USA void when he goes? Don't think the void left by Rickardsson has been filled or that by Gollob. But, hey ho, let's not argue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 NOT really ... is there another American rider to fill the USA void when he goes? Don't think the void left by Rickardsson has been filled or that by Gollob. But, hey ho, let's not argue. Not arguing, as such, just interested in the idea of a void being created. My thinking was that one of the great virtues of SGP over the years is that such a thing has never been noticeable despite the loss of some really big hitters. I see now that you mean that the 'void' is a different one that I was imagining. You seem to mean from a sort of marketing perspective. That the series 'needs' a really top-line American, Swede or Pole who is able to pull in the media etc in their own country. I presume that is why you do not see Crump/Adams in the same way as they they have had other Aussies to replace them. I was just thinking from a spectators point of view. The loss of Rickardsson seems to have been long, long forgotten 'down my way'. Even Gollob, who really did look to be irreplaceable to me, hasn't really been lamented once you are into the series. We just get over them pretty quickly, really. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 (edited) Over many years of watching speedway, I've seen them come and seen them go. The greats retire - Ove Fundin, Barry Briggs, Ivan Mauger, Hans Nielsen, Tony Rickardsson - and we move on. As in all walks of life no-one is irreplaceable. Yes, we might miss them for a very short while, but we move on to see the new stars. It's been happening since 1928 and will no doubt go on. Edited October 19, 2014 by norbold 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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