stevebrum Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Neil Middleditch & Poole Speedway's 'win at all costs provided it's us' mentality stripped bear on national TV tonight. If Muddlo had said 'it worked for us at Belle Vue last season so we have to take the rough with the smooth' then folks would respect that. He didn't, so we won't. 100% agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Neil Middleditch & Poole Speedway's 'win at all costs provided it's us' mentality stripped bear on national TV tonight. If Muddlo had said 'it worked for us at Belle Vue last season so we have to take the rough with the smooth' then folks would respect that. He didn't, so we won't. What do Poole care? They'll be in the play offs regardless. You lot are so bloody obsessed with Poole that you can't see Lakeside trying to cheat themselves into the play offs ahead of Eastbourne and my own club Swindon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted September 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 What do Poole care? They'll be in the play offs regardless. You lot are so bloody obsessed with Poole that you can't see Lakeside trying to cheat themselves into the play offs ahead of Eastbourne and my own club Swindon. Exactly. It's amazing, Poole get within an inch of cheating and the BSF crew claim foul - tonight someone else is taking the mick and very few seem bothered about it. Tonight was not fair, Watt had a hissy fit so they called the meeting off with the 4 rider for he next heat sat at the tapes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Oh make no mistake about it, Poole are just one club, there are eight or sometimes nine others in the EL, they could work against them if they wanted but they are all in it for themselves at the end of the day. They all say at the end of the year they don't like the tactical ride yet it always gets voted back in, all clubs tend to take what loyal fans they have for granted and they tend to keep them in the dark, lie, cheat and steal. They all come from the same old school of speedway promoting, they are all as bad as each other! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 (edited) Exactly. It's amazing, Poole get within an inch of cheating and the BSF crew claim foul - tonight someone else is taking the mick and very few seem bothered about it. Tonight was not fair, Watt had a hissy fit so they called the meeting off with the 4 rider for he next heat sat at the tapes. Potentially denying us a point. IMO the meeting should have been called off 5 heats earlier if they were really concerned about ride saftey. not let riders sit at the tapes for heat 11 and then call the meeting, eventhough the racing line, sorry, trotting line had improved. Visably our riders didn't want to ride, but as Neil rightly said, if we were told to carry on thats what they did. Edited September 1, 2014 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 What do Poole care? They'll be in the play offs regardless. You lot are so bloody obsessed with Poole that you can't see Lakeside trying to cheat themselves into the play offs ahead of Eastbourne and my own club Swindon. Poole are serial offenders, that's the diff. Lakeside are amateurs in that respect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 The racing improved as the riders rear wheels removed the slop off the racing lines.... Why didn't they get a couple of riders from each team to start on opposite straights and do 5/6 laps not trying to catch each other up, just to clear the racing lines of the slop, 5/6 laps, change the riders, 5/6 more laps, then change riders again..... And within 20 mins or so you have a dryish racing line.. even then you could grade over some drier shale that had been covered.... Resume racing at 9/9.30pm and you'd have got a fair result.. Yes???? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 The racing improved as the riders rear wheels removed the slop off the racing lines.... Why didn't they get a couple of riders from each team to start on opposite straights and do 5/6 laps not trying to catch each other up, just to clear the racing lines of the slop, 5/6 laps, change the riders, 5/6 more laps, then change riders again..... And within 20 mins or so you have a dryish racing line.. even then you could grade over some drier shale that had been covered.... Resume racing at 9/9.30pm and you'd have got a fair result.. Yes???? That's far too sensible. You should be ashamed of yourself 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 The racing improved as the riders rear wheels removed the slop off the racing lines.... Why didn't they get a couple of riders from each team to start on opposite straights and do 5/6 laps not trying to catch each other up, just to clear the racing lines of the slop, 5/6 laps, change the riders, 5/6 more laps, then change riders again..... And within 20 mins or so you have a dryish racing line.. even then you could grade over some drier shale that had been covered.... Resume racing at 9/9.30pm and you'd have got a fair result.. Yes????I have said this for years,if it not raining and you want the meeting to go ahead do exactly what you say . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remembertheracers Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 That was an utter shambles, a disgrace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 (edited) Should probably been called off after heat 6 but as they decided to continue they should have gone to the end i thought the track was improving race by race It did not stop Lewis Bridger racing looked flat out to me,, and Ben Morley also made a determined pass in heat nine. There are racers and those that after the first drop of rain want to pack it in , with no regard to the public who will not get a refund, being cheated again .. Speedway is dying on its ass because of multiple bad decisions by the BSPA ,The latest of which a result after ten heats is a farce,,and yes i am a Lakeside supporter or was ,? Edited September 1, 2014 by waco 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirateandi Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Yet again another example of how speedway is a laughing stock and an embarrassment !! Heat 6 should've been that end of simple as that makes this sport a complete shambles. And I understand works both ways sometimes but that doesn't make it any less of a shambles !! I thought at one stage watt was going to burst into tears if it wasn't called off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedy swindon pete Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Another own goal for british speedway tonight, in front of a (i should imagine very small) TV audience, yet again. I posted this after Swindon's first home meeting of the year in an abortion of a meeting against coventry.....sounds all too familiar; What gets me though is this whole idea of "lets just get to heat 10 and get a result". To me it sums up the shambles that the sport is in and the half arsed manner in which its run. There's no degree of professionalism, or hard and fast rules or protocol. its just a stumbling, bumbling wreck. How can any sport that says, well we'll get to this point and then we'll go home because it'll be less of a pain in the arse than rearranging the meeting, call its self professional? Heat 9 looked a shambles, you could hardly see the back straight. We're told heat 10 will go ahead, in the same conditions, yet 3 minutes later its suddenly not suitable for racing. There was absolutely no difference in the conditions between heats 9 and 10, so why not crack on and see how many heats could be done? It should be black or white, not just whats convenient. Like i've said, i wasn't too bothered with the result, but as a paying customer, theres no consistency. Its either fit for racing, or it isn't. Its no wonder the sport is on his knees over here. Theres only so many times that you can make excuses about the weather, nasty incidents, unfortunate delays. No wonder there's barely anyone on the terraces any more. Paying your money in the hope you'll see just a smoothly run meeting (even before getting into the issue of entertaining racing), really doesn't work. I stopped trying to introduce new people to the sport years ago now, if i took someone along last night, i would have made every effort to avoid having to talk to them for the next few weeks. These days i'm too embarrassed to say what i do with my thursday evenings, if I'm asked, hoping that they'll never find out i go and watch speedway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Potentially denying us a point. IMO the meeting should have been called off 5 heats earlier if they were really concerned about ride saftey. not let riders sit at the tapes for heat 11 and then call the meeting, eventhough the racing line, sorry, trotting line had improved. Visably our riders didn't want to ride, but as Neil rightly said, if we were told to carry on thats what they did. The right decision was to have called the meeting of when the downpour came They got to heat 10 then Davey Watt had a whinge and its called off Absolutly the wrong decision and disgraceful attitude by Lakeside What is boring is the Poole fans bleating about it. Poole set the precedent last year at Belle Vue by getting to heat 10 then getting it abandoned. Poole cheated that night only concerned about getting the points Lakeside cheated tonight to get the points I don't want to see Poole fans moaning as we were told countless times that the Belle Vue fiasco was the correct decision when it clearly wasn't. Neither that match or the one tonight should have got to heat 10 - simple really What goes around comes around and Middleditch needs to learn to stop being a hypocrite the man is not good on camera Best line " if we can do 10 heats we can do 15" lol the statement is correct of course (providing no more rain) but cant seem to remember him saying it at Belle Vue! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Well they don't Steve, they just don't. You've clearly never been to Essex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 One thing in common. At both meetings when the cameras honed in on the crucial dscussions about whether to carry on the unmistakeable features of Ronnie Russell loomed in the background. Given he was not the meeting steward, does anyone know why he is at every Sky meeting? He is in charge of track prep for TV meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 The biggest farce is it being called off with riders at the tapes ready to go for another heat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 He is in charge of track prep for TV meetings. No he's not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Janowski didnt have any trouble in heat 10 dont know why they didnt continue but as they said riders back to the pits I was on my way home. I will go again friday and hope for some decent guests! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bryce Posted September 1, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 I think that may be my last speedway meeting. After 40 years of supporting the sport I think tonight may be the last straw. I have no problem with a meeting being called off if the track is unsafe, but tonight's events are an insult to myself, and every other person who paid money to see the meeting. First we pay £3 for a programme that's actually 3 weeks out of date with a racecard insert in it, after queuing because the turnstiles were shut. By the way, no rain off tickets were issued, so if an earlier call off had occured how would we get our reduced admission next time? Then after the unavoidable rainfall, we are asked to stand around for ages whilst track work is done, and they say it's raceable, then have 3 races, with actual passing, only to call off the match with the riders at the tapes for the next heat, just because a result is now declarable. The track was in no worse condition then than it had been for the previous heat. If anything it was improving. As others have said, this is no different to the disgraceful farce at Belle Vue v Poole last year. Add in the ever more diluted standard of the so called Elite League, the ludicrous numbers of guests this season, the apalling facilities at most tracks and a whole host of other factors, and it's no wonder the sport is losing fans in droves. I haven't missed a meeting at Lakeside for many years, and my reward for being a loyal paying supporter is to increasingly have the micky taken out of me by the promotors and powers that be. Bottom line? The paying fans matter not one jot to the people making the decisions. If we're stupid enough to keep paying to be treated like s**t, then the people running speedway are more than happy to keep taking our money. Well not mine, not any more. 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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