4thbender Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 It was announced in sombre tones at the end of last season that Neil Machin had had enough and the Owlerton club was up for sale. With great fanfare in January Damien Bates and Peter Mole were welcomed as the new team owners. However for (at least) the past few weeks the programme has stated that the promoters are Damien Bates, Peter Mole and NEIL MACHIN! Does this represent changes at the top or am I missing something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger tiger Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 I suspect Neil is the sitting promoter ie any new promotional team need to have an experienced promoter to be there as a guide for their first season - if there is not one available they will allocate one from a nearby track but it's always better if you can call upon one from your own resources 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japser Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 What happened to Simon Parker? His name seems to have been dropped. I think a clean break from Mr Machin would have been wise if at all possible. No disrespect to Neil but human nature being what it is I can't imagine he would have been cockerhoop if Tigers had been super successful under new leadership. I suppose I am questioning whether he can be fully commited to the success of the Tigers any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 What happened to Simon Parker? His name seems to have been dropped. I think a clean break from Mr Machin would have been wise if at all possible. No disrespect to Neil but human nature being what it is I can't imagine he would have been cockerhoop if Tigers had been super successful under new leadership. I suppose I am questioning whether he can be fully commited to the success of the Tigers any more. He had to be there, was wanted to be there for guidance to the new promotion, and would only have the best of wishes and intentions on anything that had his name on it. Only on the BSF could it be thought anything else. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japser Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 He had to be there, was wanted to be there for guidance to the new promotion, and would only have the best of wishes and intentions on anything that had his name on it. Only on the BSF could it be thought anything else. Nothing to do with the BSF. I've been round the block a few times and its my take on the situation. Neil runs it for twenty or so years goes through a lean patch, someone else takes it over. if they had turned it around do you think he would have been jumping up and down clapping? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 Neil Machin is at the club purely to guide the new Promoters and to assist them and to offer up any advice, i think that role was originally earmarked for Dave Hoggart I believe but the new Promotion decided to go along with Neil instead. Which seems very sensible to me after all the shenanigans that have gone of at Birmingham. As for Simon Parker as far as I am aware Simon is still definitely involved with the club, not sure why his name is not down as a Co- Promoter, could be down to how the club was bought and the share issue. But I think that you will find that it is definitely a new Promotion running the show and Neil is there as an advisor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japser Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 I've no particular axe to grind. Just my observation on human nature. I still think a clean break would have been best if possible. I suppose the nature of any advice given and how it is acted upon is really the crux of this but I will never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 It is to Machins credit that he has made himself available to the new Sheffield promotion as a guide of their first season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japser Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 (edited) Is he only involved for this first season then? Edited August 31, 2014 by Japser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 mind boggling innit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky from Sheffield Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 Not really mind boggling Neil was retained as promoter as part of the hand over and it also made sense to ensure that Sheffield's interests could be supported by a vote at the BSPA conference. (You must have attended 2 AGMs to be eligible for a vote) A club can only have three licensed promoters which is why Damien and Peter ( who wanted to be promoters) are named as such and I am not. The shareholding is equal. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 Not really mind boggling Neil was retained as promoter as part of the hand over and it also made sense to ensure that Sheffield's interests could be supported by a vote at the BSPA conference. (You must have attended 2 AGMs to be eligible for a vote) A club can only have three licensed promoters which is why Damien and Peter ( who wanted to be promoters) are named as such and I am not. The shareholding is equal. Thanks for clearing that up Simon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike.Butler Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 bit like moyes and ferguson then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japser Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 Yes..........Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 I've no particular axe to grind. Just my observation on human nature. I still think a clean break would have been best if possible. I suppose the nature of any advice given and how it is acted upon is really the crux of this but I will never know. You will never know, but you have already made your mind up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japser Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 I will never know what advice neil gives and how the others act on it. I have a view on how people usually operate. Simon has now explained the reason for Neils continued involvement and I have thanked him for explaining this. No problem. No axe to grind. I like to think my opinions are updated in line with information I come across. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 Strangely enough myself and topcatt both commented when we saw Neil Machin at Glasgow this year that he was looking years younger and far less strained than he has done in recent years. Whatever you think of him he has a vast experience and knowledge and if looks are anything to go by, the current situation with him and Sheffield seems to be the best of both worlds for both parties 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRITISHSPEEDPOWER Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Yeah seen him in the crowd at Berwick a few weeks back, looking fresh and chilled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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