george.m Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 I'm baffled. We have people on the forum says we need to increase the number of regular attenders at speedway and to do so we need to improve the product. Others today have said we shouldn't complain and these NL guests need a chance. What contribution did they make to the 'product' today? Can't have it both ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 I'm baffled. We have people on the forum says we need to increase the number of regular attenders at speedway and to do so we need to improve the product. Others today have said we shouldn't complain and these NL guests need a chance. What contribution did they make to the 'product' today? Can't have it both ways. We can't have it both ways,but we can watch the same 7 riders each in our "own" Team would be a good starting point IMO .When the Second Division in 1968 there were very few established riders but the racing product was ok. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 A After having read some of the comments of the Tigers Facebook pages i though it was just me who thought it wasnt the best Speedway match.........This one was the pick of the bunch "A fantastic afternoon of spills, twists, nerve wracking absolutely fantastic speedway racing at its very best. What a great meeting. Brilliant !!!!" UPDATE !! ......it just gets better and better. The U21 match in Poland was rained off and is now rescheduled for 14th Sept so we'll be going through the exact same process when we face Edinburgh. Well we certainly wont get away with NL guests against the Smugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george.m Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 So George is at it again don't go on Facebook but someone should rip him a new one with his constant criticism of the Fan's the same ones that have alway's put there hands in there pocket the same ones that in general have alway's supported the club when thing's don't go well and the same ones that are well respected by other team's fans yes George you really do know how to make a pillock off yourself. Looks a prime case off a little responsibility has gone to one's head and he thinks he can say or do as he likes someone really ought to pull him to one side and tell him to wrap it. Head in the sand and telling customers what to think is not ideal for running a business. Customers vote with feet They don't stand in line waiting to be told what to do. Fans becoming directors in any sport isn't always a good thing. Business savvy is needed. Not all have it. Don't know him, so don't know if he does or not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotchopper Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 "One day meeting" has been discussed on another thread. It just can't work in Britain, how many clubs own their stadium? I agree it will be incredibly difficult and almost certainly won't happen but to quote someone else on this thread you can't have it both ways. If you don't have a single race night then clashes are inevitable and as I said earlier there is zero reasons why the British league should get priority over other competitions. Fans talking down riders for racing elsewhere instead of here are living in dream land. This has been coming for a while now and it needs something drastic done, one race night or no foreigners for example. Otherwise get used to this sort of thing, it isn't good enough and should not be at pl prices. If Glasgow line up against us like that look out the record book, as a visiting fan it is not what I would want to see and would think twice about going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 A After having read some of the comments of the Tigers Facebook pages i though it was just me who thought it wasnt the best Speedway match.........This one was the pick of the bunch "A fantastic afternoon of spills, twists, nerve wracking absolutely fantastic speedway racing at its very best. What a great meeting. Brilliant !!!!" Those kind of Facebook antics are solely to try and make folk who stayed away today feel as if they missed something , they didn't . I'm glad I'm no longer on faceache and don't read the garbage on the speedway pages there . I'll stick to the garbage on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Pleased for Glasgow, getting all the points with a decimated line-up. Sounds as though the folk who chose (always the client's choice) to stay away missed a close meeting. Those Rockets really don't travel too well, do they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 it was a close meeting from the point of view of score but if you look at it from a speedway purists point of view I personally think the majority of other meetings at Ashfield have been better. That doesnt take away from the performances of Rusty, Theo, Tero, Kennett its just that most of the heats were not balanced from a competitive point of view so there were a fair few strung out heats, something we are not used to seeing at Ashfield these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Pleased for Glasgow, getting all the points with a decimated line-up. Sounds as though the folk who chose (always the client's choice) to stay away missed a close meeting. Those Rockets really don't travel too well, do they? You had the brilliance of Pijper , but all from the gate . The usual couple of exciting races from Rusty when he missed the gate . The extravagances of Garrity locking up all over the place and the reliability of Kennett , except when Garrity got in his way . Apart from that you had two races in one going on . The two proper PL riders up front and Wobblers playtime going on the length of the straight behind . Only the predictable closeness of the scoreline kept us interested . If we are forced to go into a meeting against the Smugs in a fortnight , armed with a couple of wobblers , it will be a nausiating slaughter . Just thinking , was just as well Thomsen spat the dummy and we got Aarnio in cause Anders would probably have been at that rained off rubbish in Poland yesterday too . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Wasn't the original FastTrack idea that it was utilised in the PL but the PL promoters turned it down as bad for business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george.m Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 You had the brilliance of Pijper , but all from the gate . The usual couple of exciting races from Rusty when he missed the gate . The extravagances of Garrity locking up all over the place and the reliability of Kennett , except when Garrity got in his way . Apart from that you had two races in one going on . The two proper PL riders up front and Wobblers playtime going on the length of the straight behind . Only the predictable closeness of the scoreline kept us interested . If we are forced to go into a meeting against the Smugs in a fortnight , armed with a couple of wobblers , it will be a nausiating slaughter . Just thinking , was just as well Thomsen spat the dummy and we got Aarnio in cause Anders would probably have been at that rained off rubbish in Poland yesterday too . Just goes to show the difference between being at a meeting and seeing it for yourself. Versus reading the opinions of others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 Just goes to show the difference between being at a meeting and seeing it for yourself. Versus reading the opinions of others. As I said before , that rubbish on Facebook is only people trying to guilt trip those who gave it a miss . Was one of the poorest meetings of the season 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthur cross Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 (edited) Wasn't the original FastTrack idea that it was utilised in the PL but the PL promoters turned it down as bad for business. There were significant easy-to-spot drawbacks about a Fast Track scheme for the PL beyond any basic "bad for business" viewpoint. At the time the EL's scheme was being devised last November, it needed 20 riders to be drafted across the 10 EL teams and we've all seen what a wide range of abilities that proved to embrace ... at that same time, it would have needed 24 riders to be drafted across 12 PL teams with the consequently even wider stretching of abilities and, as it turned out, Peterborough's later inclusion as the PL's 13th team would have required a 25th and 26th drafted reserve at this level. But the biggest drawback was how far flung the 13 PL teams are across the British map compared to the much tighter-knit range of either EL or NL clubs ... don't forget, 6 PL clubs (Glas/Edin/Berw/Newc/Wkgtn/Redcar) are well north of the EL's northern outpost at Belle Vue and the NL's northern outpost at Scunthorpe. Drumming up a big enough list of suitable draftees for the EL was a tricky enough task ... now try drumming up a bigger number of suitable riders with the extra proviso of them being able (perhaps affected by other work commitments outside speedway) to guarantee devoting enough travel-time to reach whichever PL club drafted them despite most of these suitable being based inside or close beside the much tighter-knit NL map. Probably a 12-rider (or as it proved 13) for a PL draft for one reserve place in each side (with the other reserve place still fluctuating on the month-by-month averages around the other 6 riders in each team) would be as far as you could realistically attempt given the supply of riders set against the amount/location of teams ... but then, how do you rank the PL clubs fairly for just a single pick each compared to the EL's double-pick that had the more obvious parity-guideline of 1st pick-&-20th pick, 2nd-&-19th, 3rd-&-18th, etc alongside any clubs being able to protect their own eligible assets. Edited September 2, 2014 by arthur cross 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 As I said before , that rubbish on Facebook is only people trying to guilt trip those who gave it a miss . Was one of the poorest meetings of the season Looks like DJEuan is joining you and I on the naughty step for not toeing the line Paul lol. Welcome to the naughty step DJE, its Paulco's round There were significant easy-to-spot drawbacks about a Fast Track scheme for the PL beyond any basic "bad for business" viewpoint. At the time the EL's scheme was being devised last November, it needed 20 riders to be drafted across the 10 EL teams and we've all seen what a wide range of abilities that proved to embrace ... at that same time, it would have needed 24 riders to be drafted across 12 PL teams with the consequently even wider stretching of abilities and, as it turned out, Peterborough's later inclusion as the PL's 13th team would have required a 25th and 26th drafted reserve at this level. But the biggest drawback was how far flung the 13 PL teams are across the British map compared to the much tighter-knit range of either EL or NL clubs ... don't forget, 6 PL clubs (Glas/Edin/Berw/Newc/Wkgtn/Redcar) are well north of the EL's northern outpost at Belle Vue and the NL's northern outpost at Scunthorpe. Drumming up a big enough list of suitable draftees for the EL was a tricky enough task ... now try drumming up a bigger number of suitable riders with the extra proviso of them being able (perhaps affected by other work commitments outside speedway) to guarantee devoting enough travel-time to reach whichever PL club drafted them despite most of these suitable being based inside or close beside the much tighter-knit NL map. Probably a 12-rider (or as it proved 13) for a PL draft for one reserve place in each side (with the other reserve place still fluctuating on the month-by-month averages around the other 6 riders in each team) would be as far as you could realistically attempt given the supply of riders set against the amount/location of teams ... but then, how do you rank the PL clubs fairly for just a single pick each compared to the EL's double-pick that had the more obvious parity-guideline of 1st pick-&-20th pick, 2nd-&-19th, 3rd-&-18th, etc alongside any clubs being able to protect their own eligible assets. An excellent analysis Arthur 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 Would I be able to get the DVD sadly I couldn't the afford the admission but it sounds an Ashfield spectacular Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 Would I be able to get the DVD sadly I couldn't the afford the admission but it sounds an Ashfield spectacular Sadly since " Glasgow's greatest ever guest reserve " had to miss his glorious return to Ashfield , why would you want the DVD ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 and GP Star lets not forget Paul!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 and GP Star lets not forget Paul!!! Glasgow's greatest ever guest reserve is surely a higher accolade than GP star 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 He wasn't there on Sunday because he was racing in Poland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 He wasn't there on Sunday because he was racing in Poland That's where all the GP stars usually spend their Sundays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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