topaz325 Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 A shortened season April to September, concentrating on the League meetings from the start. Prompt start times and meetings run as efficiently as possible. A reduction in doubling up riders if possible, limited to one or two per team. No Tactical ride rule. Fans being robbed of their money by being admitted to a ground then told the meeting is off due to the track being un fit....surely illegal. An easy one, some decent music being played, not just a few old 45,s found in a box. Will any of this happen next year.......................no. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 A shortened season April to September, concentrating on the League meetings from the start. Prompt start times and meetings run as efficiently as possible. A reduction in doubling up riders if possible, limited to one or two per team. No Tactical ride rule. Fans being robbed of their money by being admitted to a ground then told the meeting is off due to the track being un fit....surely illegal. An easy one, some decent music being played, not just a few old 45,s found in a box. Will any of this happen next year.......................no. You never know - it doesn't seem a lot to ask does it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 Don't have the extra meetings you had this season where you choose the opposition, makes it luck who you get, give the League some credibility.Go straight into League matches, nobody seems to have noticed that every year clubs are struggling to complete fixtures with double headers or off normal night meetings, the British summer is not going to get any better. Either Premier has priority for a rider or you don't sign any rider who wants to double up, ride in Swedish or any other League. If that's not possible at least let the club have a guest, up to missing riders average, not a National League rider. Also if fewer fixtures, clubs could arrange matches to avoid any doubling up or foreign fixtures, now there's a novel idea, clubs thinking of their customers Don't have double point tacticals in the Play Offs, you don't have them in the Knockout Cup because it's home and away aggregate, so why have it in the Play Offs which is also home and away aggregate., If these thing happen I will become a regular attender again, whereas currently after many, many, years following speedway I can no longer be bothered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 The way to stop the problem of double up riders is simple if they cant ride for any other reason than injury, then you have to have a NL guest for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highside Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 Ditch the play offs simple .stop double ups, tactical rides,if clubs advertise 7.30 start time start at 7.30. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 I wouldn't stop double-ups, they can help a rider progress and also boost his income. Because of the way the fixtures work it can be difficult to get off track employment and a lot of riders are finding PL only is a struggle. I would get rid of the large number of third rate foreigners who are using the PL to boost their home racing income and their riding progress, the league would do well to consider the Draft system which has greatly helped a number of British riders this season. Other suggestions seem good to me, the whole presentation thing needs sharpening up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) Ditch the play offs simple .stop double ups, tactical rides,if clubs advertise 7.30 start time start at 7.30. Do ALL of that - and - I would start going again no problem. Don't, and no chance will I return. You could add to your List - none of this carry on delaying things by returning to the Pits after a false Start. Edited August 25, 2014 by The White Knight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) The same as my hopes for 2014 (and it would apply to the NL & EL too). Good track preparation. Good weather. Good presentation. Keep delays to a minimum. Speaking to fans across the country, that's pretty much what they all want. Edited August 25, 2014 by Halifaxtiger 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 Everything's fine,they can't help if people don't want to attend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 Ditch the play offs simple .stop double ups, tactical rides,if clubs advertise 7.30 start time start at 7.30. You ditch the play off's, you kill speedway stone dead.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 You ditch the play off's, you kill speedway stone dead..Why? you could run a first to the post league system the best and fairest way ,and maybe have a grand finale between the first four in the league two semis keeping interest open for everyone. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highside Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 You ditch the play off's, you kill speedway stone dead.. Whoever it top of the league is champion,then have something for the top eight to race for. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 A more structured pricing , £16 to get into say Glasgow v Sheffield and £16 to get into Kings Lynn v Leicester is wrong . Riders more commited to their clubs or don't bother . Going along to see your team and either them or the opposition have riders away in the Danish /Swedish / Czech leagues or riding some mickey mouse long track/grasstrack meeting has to stop . Tracks prepared fairly and consistant , none of this home advantage nonsense . And only overnight rain showers permitted between March and October But the play-offs have to stay . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 Why? you could run a first to the post league system the best and fairest way ,and maybe have a grand finale between the first four in the league two semis keeping interest open for everyone. Been say before no fans don't care about any kind of play offs that don't include a title being on the line . First in the league is no doubt the fairest way but without the play offs the season and crowds would just die as most teams won't nothing to race for .Look at Swindon matches for the rest of the season we have something to race for in a first past the post season rather than having nowt to race for and the crowds falling and putting the club in danger of going under .. Saying that I really dislike the format of the pl play offs should just do the same as the el and have 4 teams and have two semi's and a final . 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) A shortened season April to September, concentrating on the League meetings from the start. Prompt start times and meetings run as efficiently as possible. A reduction in doubling up riders if possible, limited to one or two per team. No Tactical ride rule. Fans being robbed of their money by being admitted to a ground then told the meeting is off due to the track being un fit....surely illegal. An easy one, some decent music being played, not just a few old 45,s found in a box. Will any of this happen next year.......................no. agree with all of that, but if riders want to double up. DONT SIGN THEM. being a worky fan, . i can see where you got your idea,s from.. 10pound admission fee at all pl tracks. many people havent had a pay rise for years. so why do they ask for NOE=RE money every season. if it was not for 1 rider, we would still be on 42.46 starting averaga. move the proper fast track system to the pl. thus forcing the guys who want more wages to ride in the SO CALLED ELITE. speedway HAS to change AND ITS GOT TO START IN 2015. or its dead. cvs looking after uis baby at all costs is killing it. no play offs for me. if your are top of the lleague at the end of the season. YOU ARE THE WINNERS. Edited August 26, 2014 by jenga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 Why? you could run a first to the post league system the best and fairest way ,and maybe have a grand finale between the first four in the league two semis keeping interest open for everyone. You could call it the Young Shield in the PL and the Craven Sheild in the EL. People will turn up in huge numbers and just love it. <end sarcasm> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 You could call it the Young Shield in the PL and the Craven Sheild in the EL. People will turn up in huge numbers and just love it. <end sarcasm> This is what the ostrich brigade just don't get. The play-offs bring in the crowds. The Young Shield brought in one man and his dog. And yet some people want to go back to the latter. All the best Rob 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 An easy one, some decent music being played, not just a few old 45,s found in a box. Not easy in the slightest. What is "decent"? "Decent" according to the definition of the Radio 1 playlist? Radio 2?? Radio 3??? Smooth FM?? Planet Rock??? Music is one of those things where you ain't gonna please all of the people all of the time... UNLESS,.. ...you take the matter REALLY seriously, and develop what Monster/BSI do at some of the continental SWC / SGP meetings and have a number of "name DJ's" with their mobile rigs "pumping out their sounds" for the people around them to enjoy at various points around the track. If you don't like the music of one DJ, you can stand closer to another DJ whose music you might like better. Be interesting if a promoter dare to upset the "done it this way for generations" applecart and ditched the stadium announcer / DJ doubling-up role and employed / showcased the local nightclub DJ's to do the filling in bit between the racing. That said, you might get lots of complaints from the grannies and grandads at the track who will think this is all too noisy, and nobody is playing Glenn Miller any more...but as I say, you can't please everyone all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemuppet Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 Lets face it Speedway is a business first and a sport second. What meetings create the most income . Of course it is the play offs and grand final. If those people on here who are against the play offs were promoters they would soon change their minds. Having less fixtures is rather silly as it means riders earn less money but stadiums will cost more to run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 Lets face it Speedway is a business first and a sport second. What meetings create the most income . Of course it is the play offs and grand final. If those people on here who are against the play offs were promoters they would soon change their minds. Having less fixtures is rather silly as it means riders earn less money but stadiums will cost more to run Would they really? If you have a League Competition - it is just that - a League Competition. The Team at the TOP is the Winner - THAT is an incontrovertible FACT. You can have Play Off Competitions if you wish but they CANNOT (should not) be for the League Championship. They should be run as a separate Competition. Do you see a Play Off System in the Premier League Football Competition - of course you don't - the Team that finishes TOP are the League Champions - that is the way a LEAGUE is run in the REAL World. For those who support the Play Offs - you are supporting a GIMMICK nothing else, just a pure gimmick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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