Wolves V Leicester (18/8/14)

[Wolfsbane]

What can you say. The bloke knows he's going places in the sport and won't be short of a bob or ten so why worry about Wolves & the UK.

 

Just be honest, be a man, and admit you don't want to ride over here again this season.

 

Saturday at Eastbourne should be interesting Or will this one be longer than a 24 hour bug?

 

'utterly detest'?

With regard to his attitude towards Wolves sounds about right don't you think?

 

I'm just wondering if folks will start to come to the conclusion that with Woffinden and now Pawlicki, maybe all is not rosy behind the scenes in the Monmore garden?

Edited August 18, 2014 by Wolfsbane

[BWitcher]

What can you say. The bloke knows he's going places in the sport and won't be short of a bob or ten so why worry about Wolves & the UK.

 

Just be honest, be a man, and admit you don't want to ride over here again this season.

 

Saturday at Eastbourne should be interesting Or will this one be longer than a 24 hour bug?

With regard to his attitude towards Wolves sounds about right don't you think?

 

I'm just wondering if folks will start to come to the conclusion that with Woffinden and now Pawlicki, maybe all is not rosy behind the scenes in the Monmore garden?

 

With poles we don't know anything about the situation. They are at the beck and call of their teams in Poland. If they are told, no more racing in England for you.. that's the lot, they won't be riding in England. The lad has given nothing but 100% riding for the club which is not usual when these stunts are being pulled.

 

I'm not defending the situation, just pointing out he may have little choice in the matter.... May being the operative word there.

 

From a Wolves point of view it makes little difference as its no good for the club, but to say 'utterly detest' him is going too far in my opinion, he's the bright spark (or was) in a dismal season!

[The Observer]

When is Norrie Allen going to instinctively see a T/R opportunity? Heat 6 been and gone, Mads withdrawn, very weak no. 7 = a very long night.

Edited August 18, 2014 by The Observer

[fish keeper]

Well done to the wolves lads tonight.

[stevebrum]

That was about as easy as you can get ................. once Woffy ditched his moped and brought out his better bike he was flying and untouchable and helped us to a much needed win.

I thought the loss of Piotr was going to hand victory to the Lions if they were up to the task and all started well for them.

Woffy was off the pace in heat 1 whilst our reserves hit back and out performed their counter-parts as they should have done. Lets face it if they struggled against the Lions pair then it would have been a struggle.

Heat 3 was shaping up nicely, PK had gated and Lasse battled around both Lions, including Mads off the 4th bend. Mads caught some lift and collected Lasse with both tumbling heavy on the back straight. There looked concerns early on and Mads took a bit of time getting to his feet but was able to walk away. However his withdrawal meant it was looking like advantage went back to Wolves.

After the 5-1 in Heat 5 i think we all expected a black and white helmet on Doyle in Heat 6, but no. A wasted opportunity.

Stead did take the black and white in heat 8 and won with ease but was lacking the support that would have been available in the 6th..

4-2`s in heats 9-11 saw us take control and cruising to victory.

The track was slicker than usual yet the times were consistently decent.

 

WOLVES

 

WOFFY - a meeting of 2 halves. 1st 3 heats looked slow and dis-interested but changed bikes and looked like the World Champ.He admitted on the victory parade he takes responsibility for us missing the play offs but hopes to put that right next season (i guess that means he isn't coming back conspiracy theorists ) 3/5

JACOB - top night for our young speedy Swede. Well earned his Heat 15 nom. MOTM

PK - started well then struggled somewhat. Very up and down night but you could see he was working hard on the bike to make things happen. 2/5

LASSE - Superb night. Neaerly earned MOTM. Battler that just kept trying hard and it often payed off. 4/5

RR - 9+1 and only one dropped point which is what i would have expected, that is if he could be bothered to turn up for us. I wonder if he still has a team place?

JOE - played 2nd fiddle to Tom but did his job well. 2.5/5

TOM - Top night and was top reserve of both teams. Job done. 4/5

 

LEICESTER

Doyle - impressive start then had to deal with the quick Woffy version in his last 3. Still more than did his job. 3.5/5

Stead - Best i have seen Simon ride Monmore in a long long time or ever! Very impressive night 4/5

Mads - Hopefully he is OK after the nasty crash in Heat 3. The ref called it right tho.

Klindt - As you expect. Tried 3 times to jump start, nothing changes. Got away with it once but still couldn't win the race. I expected 0303 so he scored 6 which was what i predicted. 2/5

Buzz - Despite his low score was in the action however this was not the sort of score the management expected. Tough night. 1/5

Clegg - He certainly tried hard and had a couple of good scraps for points. Deserved more. 1.5/5

Hopwood - Didnt look like scoring after the opening bend. 0/5

[Leicester Lion]

That was about as easy as you can get ................. once Woffy ditched his moped and brought out his better bike he was flying and untouchable and helped us to a much needed win.

I thought the loss of Piotr was going to hand victory to the Lions if they were up to the task and all started well for them.

Woffy was off the pace in heat 1 whilst our reserves hit back and out performed their counter-parts as they should have done. Lets face it if they struggled against the Lions pair then it would have been a struggle.

Heat 3 was shaping up nicely, PK had gated and Lasse battled around both Lions, including Mads off the 4th bend. Mads caught some lift and collected Lasse with both tumbling heavy on the back straight. There looked concerns early on and Mads took a bit of time getting to his feet but was able to walk away. However his withdrawal meant it was looking like advantage went back to Wolves.

After the 5-1 in Heat 5 i think we all expected a black and white helmet on Doyle in Heat 6, but no. A wasted opportunity.

Stead did take the black and white in heat 8 and won with ease but was lacking the support that would have been available in the 6th..

4-2`s in heats 9-11 saw us take control and cruising to victory.

The track was slicker than usual yet the times were consistently decent.

 

WOLVES

 

WOFFY - a meeting of 2 halves. 1st 3 heats looked slow and dis-interested but changed bikes and looked like the World Champ.He admitted on the victory parade he takes responsibility for us missing the play offs but hopes to put that right next season (i guess that means he isn't coming back conspiracy theorists ) 3/5

JACOB - top night for our young speedy Swede. Well earned his Heat 15 nom. MOTM

PK - started well then struggled somewhat. Very up and down night but you could see he was working hard on the bike to make things happen. 2/5

LASSE - Superb night. Neaerly earned MOTM. Battler that just kept trying hard and it often payed off. 4/5

RR - 9+1 and only one dropped point which is what i would have expected, that is if he could be bothered to turn up for us. I wonder if he still has a team place?

JOE - played 2nd fiddle to Tom but did his job well. 2.5/5

TOM - Top night and was top reserve of both teams. Job done. 4/5

 

LEICESTER

Doyle - impressive start then had to deal with the quick Woffy version in his last 3. Still more than did his job. 3.5/5

Stead - Best i have seen Simon ride Monmore in a long long time or ever! Very impressive night 4/5

Mads - Hopefully he is OK after the nasty crash in Heat 3. The ref called it right tho.

Klindt - As you expect. Tried 3 times to jump start, nothing changes. Got away with it once but still couldn't win the race. I expected 0303 so he scored 6 which was what i predicted. 2/5

Buzz - Despite his low score was in the action however this was not the sort of score the management expected. Tough night. 1/5

Clegg - He certainly tried hard and had a couple of good scraps for points. Deserved more. 1.5/5

Hopwood - Didnt look like scoring after the opening bend. 0/5

No need to hunt out your old school reports! Edited August 18, 2014 by Leicester Lion

[stevebrum]

No need to hunt out your old school reports!

 

 

You clearly haven't read one of my reports before.

[mdmc82]

Got to say Zengota at Swindon was no problem at all. Im sure Coventry fans will back me up after last year as well.

Agree, Zengota showed a lot of commitment for bees and always showed up.

 

It was KK, Piotr & Shamak that let us down with injury that meant they could ride Poland but not EL

[T.N.T.]

Much as I love to watch piotr this is a disgrace. If he can't be arsed then time to say goodbye.

 

Forgetting the "illness" let's not forget that Polish riders are often put in a difficult position by their clubs and PZM and can face fines or bans from racing if they don't do as they are told and a ban would hit them abroad aswell so they lose everything.

 

 

Piotr has been a revelation at Wolves this year and I know very well that he has enjoyed rididing at Monmore Green and for Wolves and if he wasn't "ill" (or told not to ride ? ) he would be riding and showing what has made him the top Wolves rider in 2015 by almost a point !!

 

 

As for the meeting last night, Jason Doyle always goes well at Monmore ..... weird how he was considered for the team but Pawlicki was signed instead ...... and only three defeats by the true form of Tai Woffinden could stop him while Simon Stead was back to the form he showed at Monmore Green roughly a decade ago when he wore the old gold n black.

 

Nicolai Klindt was his usual self with poor races where he looked outclassed and races where he looked like a GP star which he could be if he puts five electric starts together in Lonigo in a months time.

 

 

Wolves however had all six ride well although it took a while for Tai to get going and while PK only got seven, he wasn't far off each time and apart from being passed by Buczkowski, he was only beaten by Stead and Doyle (three times) which isn't bad for a 44 year old Swede ..... terrible for a 44 year old American

[Lefty]

TNT, cut the flannel about the absense / illness excuses - he wasn't there last night!!! The admission price wasn't reduced and the meeting dragged on. Fans lost out (again). I had two friends who heard the news of Piotr's absence and didn't go last night. How many more are there (riders & fans) who are taking time out. Wolves are at Eastbourne this Saturday without three riders. This Elite League needs a shake up :-(

Edited August 19, 2014 by Lefty

[magnificentseven]

 

Forgetting the "illness" let's not forget that Polish riders are often put in a difficult position by their clubs and PZM and can face fines or bans from racing if they don't do as they are told and a ban would hit them abroad aswell so they lose everything.

 

 

Piotr has been a revelation at Wolves this year and I know very well that he has enjoyed rididing at Monmore Green and for Wolves and if he wasn't "ill" (or told not to ride ? ) he would be riding and showing what has made him the top Wolves rider in 2015 by almost a point !!

 

 

 

 

If the reason for his absence was other than illness then the situation has been compounded as he is clearly lying - better to be up front and admit the real reason.

 

Either way he has shown utter contempt for the club and its fans over the last two meetings - he can't be trusted to turn up anymore.

 

As good as his season has been it is time for a parting of the ways - once - the Leicester match - may have been excusable - but he has done twice in succession now so time for him to go.

 

From the lack of people on the terraces last night it was clear that his decision not to bother turning up had a an effect on the crowd.

 

Time to get rid of the foreign riders who can't or won't commit to Britain and form a bigger league without them.

 

On a different tack it was interesting to hear Woffy talking to Porky after the meeting last night - he at last admitted to his lack of points being the major reason for our inability to reach the play offs - perhaps some of the fans' comments are finally getting through - if he does decide to ride in Britain next year let's hope he doesn't take on so many activities outside speedway.

 

Wolfie

[BWitcher]

 

If the reason for his absence was other than illness then the situation has been compounded as he is clearly lying - better to be up front and admit the real reason.

 

Either way he has shown utter contempt for the club and its fans over the last two meetings - he can't be trusted to turn up anymore.

 

As good as his season has been it is time for a parting of the ways - once - the Leicester match - may have been excusable - but he has done twice in succession now so time for him to go.

 

From the lack of people on the terraces last night it was clear that his decision not to bother turning up had a an effect on the crowd.

 

Time to get rid of the foreign riders who can't or won't commit to Britain and form a bigger league without them.

 

On a different tack it was interesting to hear Woffy talking to Porky after the meeting last night - he at last admitted to his lack of points being the major reason for our inability to reach the play offs - perhaps some of the fans' comments are finally getting through - if he does decide to ride in Britain next year let's hope he doesn't take on so many activities outside speedway.

 

Wolfie

 

I agree with much of what you say, however, it is very likely he has little choice in the matter and publicly at least cannot say anything other than he has or will be found accountable 'back home' where polish riders must do as they are told, no excuses.

 

So I do feel some sympathy for Pawlicki as an individual, but as you say, Wolves must protect their own interests.

[fish keeper]

Well Piotr manager was over does any one know what as gone on or been said to our management if genuinely ill then fair enough but I just don't buy in to that as he been stopped from riding here.

[stevebrum]

Well Piotr manager was over does any one know what as gone on or been said to our management if genuinely ill then fair enough but I just don't buy in to that as he been stopped from riding here.

 

 

I don't believe the `genuinely ill` line one bit.

And in truth we know it isn't an illness

[SteveLyric2]

Piotr's absence is purely down to pressure from his Polish masters. Its exactly the same situation as KK at Birmingham - and he was castigated by many on here, so if it was right to have a go then, it is right to have a go now.

 

Not that I have a problem with either rider no matter who they are riding (or not riding) for!!

[houdi]

 

 

I don't believe the `genuinely ill` line one bit.

And in truth we know it isn't an illness

Maybe he suffers with hay fever.

[stevebrum]

Maybe he suffers with hay fever.

 

That could be added to the `excuse` list i suppose!

[New Science]

Parrys International Wolves have received information this morning that Piotr Pawlicki is unable to race this evening owing to illness.

 

While we find this disappointing- less than 24 hours after he scored a 15 point maximum in the World Under 21 Championship-and the second successive meeting he has been absent after a 100% commitment record previously it would be unwise to make any further comment until we have spoken at length with his Polish manager Krystian Plech who had arranged to travel with Piotr this morning and will still be attending tonight.

 

With the unavailability of any suitable guest Wolves will operate the rider replacement rule to cover his absence with all team members eligible to take a ride

 

This was just posted on wolves website. Much as I love to watch piotr this is a disgrace. If he can't be arsed then time to say goodbye.

This shows just how weak the sport is in this country. CVS has steadfastly over the last 25 years said that anyone that did not commit to Wolves fixtures would not ride for the club,and he has been as good as his word,now he is prepared to tolerate riders messing the club around with what we know are fake absentees just because it is the best rider at the club and there isn't a ready made replacement. Edited August 19, 2014 by New Science

[Wolfsbane]

This shows just how weak the sport is in this country. CVS has steadfastly over the last 25 years said that anyone that did not commit to Wolves fixtures would not ride for the club,and he has been as good as his word,now he is prepared to tolerate riders messing the club around with what we know are fake absentees just because it is the best rider at the club and there isn't a ready made replacement.

24 hours on and not a whisper on the OS as to the outcome of the 'talks' with his Polish manager, if indeed he was in attendance and any said 'talks' have taken place. Mushroom management of the supporters yet again. 'If we keep quiet then with a bit of luck they'll forget about it'. How's about 'We need to keep the folks who pay our wages fully informed of the situation'.

 

When are they going to understand that their silence only promotes rumour & speculation.

 

They just ain't learning.

Edited August 19, 2014 by Wolfsbane

[Leicester Lion]

This shows just how weak the sport is in this country. CVS has steadfastly over the last 25 years said that anyone that did not commit to Wolves fixtures would not ride for the club,and he has been as good as his word,now he is prepared to tolerate riders messing the club around with what we know are fake absentees just because it is the best rider at the club and there isn't a ready made replacement.

That's right. Yesterday's press release set the tone for Wolves not tolerating such absences, but it needs to be followed up with stern action.