Arson fire Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) As a person, i think Darcy has done his time. And no, i don't know anything, except what i do know is the FIM are stringing this out. Now will you all get off the lads back. Im sure you have better things to do like play with your Abacus's or build buildings with your Leggo. charlie webster says if darcy isnt punished correctly she will never step foot in Pooles pits or buy a sticky speedway star ever again... Do you agree with her?? Edited November 13, 2014 by Arson fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Is that official or are you a know all who is making it up?How do you know he has served his time when the hearing hasn't taken place? Thats the problem with know it alls on here. Makes things up. starman doesn't know the FIM jury personally, he doesn't knows what written all over their faces. If he did he wouldn't make such comments. Sour grapes. Totally out of touch fools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Quite a few riders have a drink the night before an evening meeting - even NKI alluded to that (and a lot worse) - in an interview he gave back in august, so lets not single out Ward for that!! . Clearly having a whole day to re-hydrate is more than enough for most riders, but not if the meeting is rearranged for the afternoon when the testing is done earlier. Just to add to his comments last night, as Starman says, Darcy did show remorse last night and was very contrite when interviewed and was very good with loads of the fans afterwards. Also he didn't appear to have been drinking, but that is just a personal observation. Oh well, that's all right then. If it was written all over his face no need for him to make any oral or written apologies. That's good enough for me...er.... I have been away from speedway for too long to have any support for a team, but if Poole supporters keep putting anyone who criticices DW attitude/actions into the same mold as Poole speedway haters I could just start not to like Poole supporters. As for Chris Harris,I have been critical of his GP performance during 2014 (though I have also said he looks an exciting racer). I judge things as I see them, irrespective of what club or even country they ride for. Seems like another Poole fan had swallowed the Darcy line. Re-hydration has nothing to do with the rate alcohol leaves the body. Darcy failed the breath test because he had too much grog the night before. There can be differing opinions on the appropriate punishment but the fact that he failed the breath test was nothing to do with rehydration, it was purely and simply that he had a skinfull the night before and it hadn't left his system when tested. That's all there is too it. As a person, i think Darcy has done his time. And no, i don't know anything, except what i do know is the FIM are stringing this out. Now will you all get off the lads back. Im sure you have better things to do like play with your Abacus's or build buildings with your Leggo. The ONLY thing and I'll say it until the day I die. The ONLY thing Darcy Ward is sorry about, is the fact he got caught! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Get to January and hopefully this will be over, and hopefully? i have grave doubts Darcy can get back to what he is best at racing speedway bikes.He has made mistakes some bad ones and he needs to take a low profile and get over this any other mistake could be terminal.His career reminds me so much of Michael Lee any mistake people are down on him like a tonne of bricks.Now it is down to Darcy a great rider a real talent now go and show us what you are capable of. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) That the best you can do pal. As i said, get off Darcy's back. Im getting pig sick of you so called know alls pulling the lad to pieces. He made a mistake he's served his time. Doubt you've ever made a mistake in your very sheltered life !! Yep another Darcy/poole hater. Just Like Ched Evans ..the bloke you said that should be allowed back in football on another topic . Edited November 14, 2014 by orion 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baba Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 When im watching a sky meeting and darcys riding that evening then I know at some point hes going to make me hang of edge of sofa by the hair of a bum cheek or suddenly jump into air with delight...ok maybe half pissed but hes that kind of rider. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post norbold Posted November 14, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Of course the loyalty to one of their own team is very commendable, but Poole supporters who are supporting Darcy Ward seem to be suffering from some form of mass paranoia. It seems really strange to me that supporters of the team that has undoubtedly been the best in Britain taken over the last few years should think that the whole world is against them and that everyone hates them. Personally I don't love or hate Poole any more or less than any other team (well, perhaps I love them slightly less than Ipswich). In fact in many ways I admire them for what they have achieved and for keeping our sport so healthy in at least one part of the country. But then I suppose it is very comforting to them to be able to dismiss any criticism of one of their riders as just the mutterings of "Poole haters". Do those Poole supporters on here really really think that everyone who has commented adversely about Darcy Ward's actions are only saying so because they are "Poole haters"? Can they really not see that he did something very wrong and that he is being criticised for his actions irrespective of their views on Poole as a team? It is very unfortunate that there is such a "circle the wagons" mentality about some on here that it blinds them to the very real danger that Darcy Ward could have put his fellow riders in to and that he deserves some form of punishment. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinsgirl Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 I'm hoping that his punishment is such that he gets no wildcards in 2015 but can still do the qualifiers and it will remain to be seen if he is good enough to make it to 2016. I think his skill on the bike will be, but where his head is consistently will be the biggest challenge. I personally don't think he has the focus to succeed over a full season. Time will tell. The discussion on here is interesting.. the pro Darcy's keep softening the issue that he was caught by bringing points like the Grand Prix time was moved blah blah .... A professional would be always be anticipating the different possibilities of start times.No excuse. ..the Anti campaigners sprout biasing words like 'he had a skinful' just to make it sound as bad as they possibly can. Ah well it's something to read in the winter! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 1941 posts have said that, why make it another one.. Nothing worth watching on TV? I could say the same to you, however as I don't want to be yet another forum member you seem intent on Arguing with I won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) Good. And your a good boy, arn't you... I have never driven under the influence, no. But that is hardly the point, the topic is about Darcy Ward, is that your only defence to the points I made? Scraping the bottom of the barrel there! The ONLY thing and I'll say it until the day I die. The ONLY thing Darcy Ward is sorry about, is the fact he got caught! Exactly. These comments published yesterday don't seem to suggest anybody in Dorset have learned a bloody thing. “It is still hard for Matt, the club and the fans but it’s no harder on anybody than myself. It has been tough. “There will always be haters but you have to try and look at the positives after such a negative thing and the welcome I got on the stage (at the club’s awards ceremony) was really nice. It makes you feel warm.” http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/sport/11601293.Darcy_Ward__Speedway_ban_so_hard_to_take_but_Poole_Pirates_are_pulling_me_through/ Had they been harder on him a couple of years ago when the previous problems occurred, maybe we would not be here now. 1941 posts have said that, why make it another one.. Nothing worth watching on TV? Ha, you are some kind of idiot to moan about the number of posts. This is a DISCUSSION forum, hence the number of posts and comments on a topical discussion in our sport. Edited November 14, 2014 by TheReturn 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) The ONLY thing and I'll say it until the day I die. The ONLY thing Darcy Ward is sorry about, is the fact he got caught! Which time? Edited November 14, 2014 by Blazeaway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) Ha, you are some kind of idiot to moan about the number of posts. This is a DISCUSSION forum, hence the number of posts and comments on a topical discussion in our sport. Unfortunately, this is not a discussion thread though, is it, its a lets all hang Darcy, again, must be a Poole thing.. And you call me an idiot. Edited November 14, 2014 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Unfortunately, this is not a discussion thread though, is it, its a lets all hang Darcy, again, must be a Poole thing.. And you call me an idiot. Well maybe you should ask yourself why people want him punished. What was it Mario wrote on his t-shirt a few years ago? 'Why always me?' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Unfortunately, this is not a discussion thread though, is it, its a lets all hang Darcy, again, must be a Poole thing.. And you call me an idiot. No it is about Darcy who again managed to screw up and this time he did not only violate civil laws he also violated FIM & Wadas anti-doping rules. So just like any other athlete who gets caught, Darcy should get a punishment for a doping offence. Normally such punishments are 2 year long. I can't see why Darcy should be treated differently? In Dudek's case there might have been evidence of some sort that indicated that his forbidden substance might have been from something that he ate. However Dudek still got a one year ban from all speedway plus an additional ban from national team (SWC, SGP, SEC & etc). In Ward's case Darcy purposely consumed the banned substances in such quantities that he should have realized that this would set him over the allowed limit. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 How about this for a conspiracy theory. The FIM plan a ban - say 8 months like the Danno precedent. Darcys defence is a technicality with the testing procedures. The FIM know they have screwed up and will have to drop the case. However to ensure he has to sit it out the hearing keeps getting shifted back until the 8 months is up. And before anyone asks yes I am bored today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 How about this for a conspiracy theory. The FIM plan a ban - say 8 months like the Danno precedent. Darcys defence is a technicality with the testing procedures. The FIM know they have screwed up and will have to drop the case. However to ensure he has to sit it out the hearing keeps getting shifted back until the 8 months is up. And before anyone asks yes I am bored today! Its a good thiery, and a very unbiased one, compared to the usual drivel from the Poole/ Darcy/ Matt Ford haters sociaty on here. Thats a posibillity, but im sure we will know more in January, if the put it back again, then the likelyhood being is you could be right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) The argument for such a conspiracy theory presupposes that 'The FIM' is this unified sentient entity that cares one jot about this case or Darcy Ward. That I doubt. I imagine the truth is that the organisation as a whole has barely any idea who the guy is, what his case is. And wouldn't 'care' even if they did. His 'file' is probably sat in the 'in tray' of a middle ranking official in Geneva. And it will just get looked at when he gets around to it. Perhaps after a nice long Christmas break. Edited November 14, 2014 by Grand Central 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Its a good thiery, and a very unbiased one, compared to the usual drivel from the Poole/ Darcy/ Matt Ford haters sociaty on here. Oh dear, it must be so difficult always being the victims. Darcy Ward has just one single person to blame, that is himself. Although the Darcy Ward sycophants perhaps need to ask themselves questions too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 The argument for such a conspiracy theory presupposes that 'The FIM' is this unified sentient entity that cares one jot about this case or Darcy Ward. That I doubt. I imagine the truth is that the organisation as a whole has barely any idea who the guy is, what his case is. And wouldn't 'care' even if they did. His 'file' is probably sat in the 'in tray' of a middle ranking official in Geneva. And it will just get looked at when he gets around to it. Perhaps after a nice long Christmas break. I agree, you can look at other sports mega stars, like Marion Jones in athletics and Lance Armstrong in cycling. Once there was enough evidence both were convicted and suspended despite that both probably were among the biggest names in their sports. It also shows that Wada cares even less about the "biggness" of the name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 (http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/sport/speedway/piratesnews/11603871.Speedway__Darcy_Ward_s_waiting_game__immoral__says_Poole_Pirates_boss_Matt_Ford/) For once I do partially agree with Ford that it is unfair on the clubs that the ban/suspension is pending, they need to plan ahead, and I guess so does Ward too. Not sure 'immoral' is the right word though. Where I question this article is this part: Darcy was clearly silly to drink the night before but the one thing I would say in his defence is that he did not partake in any racing. Surely the point is that when tested, Ward was over the limit and was due to be on track in that state. So I am not sure what Ford means by this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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