dabbsjoe Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 Middleditch only wants him here so he has someone paying rent all year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 Frankly, I am amazed at some attitudes. A breath test is taken by a competitor immediately prior to a World Championship Motorcycle event that produces a positive result for alcohol. The man concerned immediately admits to the world's media that he had overdone the booze the previous night. And he even makes public what he regards as a mitigating reason for this. And rather than be horrified at the seriousness of such transgression; we are subjected to a litany of morally repugnant defences and support. The test protocols were not followed properly. He was found to be over the limit before taking to the track makes it so much less serious. The time taken to deal with the serial troublemaker is regarded as somehow making the perpetrator into some sort of victim. He is of course very 'talented' on track. Plus don't forget he lends his bike to team mates and is regarded an 'inspiration' to others. And these utterances do not just come from the terraces; or from forum posters. They are also offered by his Team Managers, his employers, his sponsors and people of supposed stature within the sport. Utterly amazing. And completely abhorrent. Decent people can just hope that the FIM tribunal ensures that justice is done next week And that the right sentence is handed down. This deserves so much more than just a ' like ' You said it all, in one post! Suberb! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 Middleditch only wants him here so he has someone paying rent all year You can forget that - Darcy has bought his own house!! (as has Magic, for that matter!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 You can forget that - Darcy has bought his own house!! (as has Magic, for that matter!) Is Darcy`s next to a pub 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 You can forget that - Darcy has bought his own house!! (as has Magic, for that matter!) I hope he's got a letting agent lined up then! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 How does the horse hold the little the bottle ? Ha Ha, it pee's into a bucket, eventually !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dornier Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 You can forget that - Darcy has bought his own house!! (as has Magic, for that matter!) Is it next to the Churchill ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 Is Darcy`s next to a pub Is it next to the Churchill ? No, it is the Churchill. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 You can forget that - Darcy has bought his own house!! (as has Magic, for that matter!) Public House ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gearhead Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 But he wasn't caught drinking and riding he failed a test and due to the failure of the test was prevented from riding. If he failed a test after the meeting he would then have been caught drinking and riding. I'm certainly not condoning what happened but there is a big difference IMO ^^^Why you shouldn't drink and post.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Frankly, I am amazed at some attitudes. A breath test is taken by a competitor immediately prior to a World Championship Motorcycle event that produces a positive result for alcohol. The man concerned immediately admits to the world's media that he had overdone the booze the previous night. And he even makes public what he regards as a mitigating reason for this. And rather than be horrified at the seriousness of such transgression; we are subjected to a litany of morally repugnant defences and support. The test protocols were not followed properly. He was found to be over the limit before taking to the track makes it so much less serious. The time taken to deal with the serial troublemaker is regarded as somehow making the perpetrator into some sort of victim. He is of course very 'talented' on track. Plus don't forget he lends his bike to team mates and is regarded an 'inspiration' to others. And these utterances do not just come from the terraces; or from forum posters. They are also offered by his Team Managers, his employers, his sponsors and people of supposed stature within the sport. Utterly amazing. And completely abhorrent. Decent people can just hope that the FIM tribunal ensures that justice is done next week And that the right sentence is handed down. Its taken 120+ pages but this is the perfect post regarding this issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 WOULDN'T argue with any of that either but it doesn't excuse the FIM who have taken so long to resolve this issue, Whatever his transgressions Ward had a right to a swift hearing as did his potential employers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Decent people can just hope that the FIM tribunal ensures that justice is done next week And that the right sentence is handed down. By 'decent people' he means other like minded Poole Haters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Actually pugwash. not all who agree with Grand Central are Poole haters, though they can still be regarded as decent people. I have no grumps about Poole, or indeed any other team. I have been away from speedway for around 30 years, just come back in the last two years. I dont know about the politics that have been going on behind the scenes over those years, but I am aware of the fact DW tested positive for a non approved substance in his body, and a stiff penalty is due under the regulations. So I take exception to your statement that "decent people" are like minded Poole haters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 I might be wrong but didn't Ivan mauger once say he never touched alcohol until he retired.bit more professional than darcy if that's the truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Just because you're paranoid, pugwash, doesn't mean they're not out to get you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 WOULDN'T argue with any of that either but it doesn't excuse the FIM who have taken so long to resolve this issue, Whatever his transgressions Ward had a right to a swift hearing as did his potential employers. Agreed though if the extra time taken ensures Ward a fair and just hearing then it will be worth while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 I might be wrong but didn't Ivan mauger once say he never touched alcohol until he retired.bit more professional than darcy if that's the truth IF he said it he was kidding but I very much doubt that he touched a drop on the eve of a World Final Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 (edited) WOULDN'T argue with any of that either but it doesn't excuse the FIM who have taken so long to resolve this issue, Whatever his transgressions Ward had a right to a swift hearing as did his potential employers. I really do feel that you have lost a little bit of context in this particular debate, Phil, sadly. Always a bit quick to blame the FIM. Probably because of previous justifiable history, But unfortunately, Darcy is really just a bit of a bad 'un. Not really worthy of your continued indulgence. Best save it for more worthy candidates. You have spent your career with real bastions of the sport; Briggo, Ole et al. This guy is not of that calibre. Honestly I fear you will be defending him again in the near future no matter what the outcome of this particular issue. Don't waste your efforts. By 'decent people' he means other like minded Poole Haters. Sorry, but you really do typify people who cannot see rational argument as purely un-partisan as possible. I tried my best and you still could not see it. Your loss, I'm afraid. Edited November 2, 2014 by Grand Central 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 I'M not defending Ward at all but even high ranking members of the FIM will admit privately that his case has been badly handled. It could and should have been resolved by now. Those clubs he rides for in Britain, Poland and Sweden are the innocent parties in this (yes, even Poole!) and quite rightly want to know whether or not he will be available next season. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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