Darcy Ward

[Jacques]

Well, he's out from the meeting, wonder when when we will know the punishment ?

[orion]

Well, he's out from the meeting, wonder when when we will know the punishment ?

He been told he has to Ride For Coventry next season .

[longlivefrankie]

You do realise in many places of work that would be a sackable offence?

We have sacked two workers for arriving hung over for work within the last 12 months, there is zero tolerance in most workplaces

[weatherwatcher]

It just proves what a total idiot Darcy is. He should get a ban, for this. Noone should be allowed to compete in any form of fast and dangerous motor sport, when under the influence of drink, even from the night before the meeting if you druck to much to be sober for the meeting. Not only are you putting your own life through injury or even death you are also doing the same to your fellow riders if you are not 100% on the ball.

This could turn out rally bad for Darcy and if things really came to its worst. This could be the end of his career. He has got some major sponser that are using thier name, on his bike and kelvars. Plus other advertising. If the said sponsers, then say enough is enough, this could be the end of him competing in any more top world speedway events.

Because without the big names behind him he could not afford to race.

I have thought for the last 2 or 3 months, that something is just not quite right with Darcy's attitude towards the sport. At times he looks like a little boy lost. I just wonder if it is just to much for him to be able to control.

Also the major teams may wonder if they will want to have him on thier books when he is pulling stunts this this, as this is not the first time he has made headlines only to get away with it.

Sorry but he just has to realise that he is not the only rider out there and that he should start to think about slowing down and stop being a spoilt young brat.

Because he his trowing away big time a huge potential in the sport. I have never liked him and this last issue has made me see that he needs to pull up his socks and start to act more like a grown up and to take his sport more seriously.

[Jacques]

He been told he has to Ride For Coventry next season .

 

Ha ha

[Wackie]

I'm not just saying this because I'm not Darcy Ward's biggest fan, but they should throw the book at him!

 

Sorry, but there's no mitigating circumstances that can excuse him. If the news was that bad, withdraw from the meeting, don't go looking for sympathy votes from a sob story. There should be a zero tolerance of alcohol in motor sports, no minimum level to be marginally over, it should be a limit of 0.00, they're riding 500cc bikes with no brakes ffs! No respect for his fellow competitors and willing to put their safety in danger by the choices he made.

 

Could you imagine Valentino Rossi, Marc Marquez, Lewis Hamilton etc. turning up on race day with alcohol in their system? No - because they have respect for themselves, respect for their fellow competitors and are professional.

 

Talented or not, Ward is a knob and has probably just literally p!ssed his career up the wall.

[TheReturn]

I'm referring SOLELY to this incident. Whatever else he's done should have NO BEARING on this incident.

 

You obviously bear him some sort of grudge, or maybe you're just so perfect that any transgressor should be punished?

 

Are you for real?

 

All these incidents involving the same individual, and all these sycophants trying to excuse them in some way or another. At some point when do you want to join the dots and work out that the more people excuse these behaviours, the more the transgressor (to use your word) will continue behaving this way.

 

But to use your comment, and judge SOLELY on this incident, if you get into your car and fail a breathalyser test, try using that excuse to the judge. You would be laughed out of court, and with luck banned from driving for a long time.

 

I don't know what is considered a standard ban for this type of offence, but one assumes racing when drunk or stoned is, or should be rather stern.

 

As for me, nope I am not perfect, but I have never got behind a wheel drunk or turned up for work drunk.

[Triple.H.]

I'm not just saying this because I'm not Darcy Ward's biggest fan, but they should throw the book at him!

 

Sorry, but there's no mitigating circumstances that can excuse him. If the news was that bad, withdraw from the meeting, don't go looking for sympathy votes from a sob story. There should be a zero tolerance of alcohol in motor sports, no minimum level to be marginally over, it should be a limit of 0.00, they're riding 500cc bikes with no brakes ffs! No respect for his fellow competitors and willing to put their safety in danger by the choices he made.

 

Could you imagine Valentino Rossi, Marc Marquez, Lewis Hamilton etc. turning up on race day with alcohol in their system? No - because they have respect for themselves, respect for their fellow competitors and are professional.

 

Talented or not, Ward is a knob and has probably just literally p!ssed his career up the wall.

You couldn't tell if Marquez is under the influence he rides like a mad man anyway

[Wackie]

Actually, the way he's going again this year, they're probably testing him before and after races. The kid is a machine!!

[scaramanga]

At the end of the interview Darcy says "it won't happen again", but Darcy it does and until they had out a substantial penalty you will never learn.

 

Kennett gets shagged for using his drill on his silencer

Danno gets shagged for being pissed

 

So... well imo they will sweep it under the carpet because he puts bums on seats

very good point

and off topic but just how many covers have appeared over silencers now ?

you can see the ones who have nothing to hide as the silencer is discoulred with heat where the restrictor/baffle plate is im always a tad suss with the riders using nice shinny silencers or them with a new cover over them didnt see them before the new rule as far as im aware

[Ghostwalker]

What's he done wrong? He's turned up 'for work' hung-over. Have you never done that?

 

our job isn't driving a motorcycle without brakes at 100km/h against three others.

[Ray Stadia]

Trouble is, many of us have had a 'skin full' and driven the following day. How do we know whether we would have failed a breath test? In my opinion, at worst, he would have had a bad meeting and not been a danger to other riders. I wonder what would have happened if the Moran brothers had been tested just before a meeting? Also, I heard stories about a rider, no names, falling out of the van when the passenger door was opened and was due to ride! He was under the influence. No one was hurt and I believe he had a reasonable meeting! Times have changed I understand, but he is a young man and deserves a bit of slack, in my opinion.

[XTC38L]

very good point

and off topic but just how many covers have appeared over silencers now ?

you can see the ones who have nothing to hide as the silencer is discoulred with heat where the restrictor/baffle plate is im always a tad suss with the riders using nice shinny silencers or them with a new cover over them didnt see them before the new rule as far as im aware

The covers are required for all fim meetings nothing suss at all

[Triple.H.]

Trouble is, many of us have had a 'skin full' and driven the following day. How do we know whether we would have failed a breath test? In my opinion, at worst, he would have had a bad meeting and not been a danger to other riders. I wonder what would have happened if the Moran brothers had been tested just before a meeting? Also, I heard stories about a rider, no names, falling out of the van when the passenger door was opened and was due to ride! He was under the influence. No one was hurt and I believe he had a reasonable meeting! Times have changed I understand, but he is a young man and deserves a bit of slack, in my opinion.

in the 80s they could've probably had individual meetings with our old friend R/R replacing 6 or 7 riders.

[Star Fever]

Are you for real?

 

All these incidents involving the same individual, and all these sycophants trying to excuse them in some way or another. At some point when do you want to join the dots and work out that the more people excuse these behaviours, the more the transgressor (to use your word) will continue behaving this way.

 

But to use your comment, and judge SOLELY on this incident, if you get into your car and fail a breathalyser test, try using that excuse to the judge. You would be laughed out of court, and with luck banned from driving for a long time.

 

I don't know what is considered a standard ban for this type of offence, but one assumes racing when drunk or stoned is, or should be rather stern.

 

As for me, nope I am not perfect, but I have never got behind a wheel drunk or turned up for work drunk.

 

Yep I'm definitely for real - just viewing THIS incident only and not letting anything else cloud my judgement.

 

Yes I agree if he 'failed the breathlyser' he was rightly banned from the meeting. If it was well over even a legal limit to drive then YES he should be banned for longer. It is not yet law however to drink and drive if you only have a small quantity of alcohol in your bloodstream. It hasn't been proven yet either that he was 'drunk' - just that he had alcohol in his bloodstream.

 

I'm not a drinker so I'm certainly not defending it, but if I had a couple of shandies and then was deemed 'over the limit' I'd think I was hard done by. None of us yet know EXACTLY how much he exceeded the FIMs legal limit, and YES I agree it should be zero, but he obviously exceeded it so it today's ban was correct, but to ban him for any longer would be pointless. Make a point of testing him every meeting yes - that would certainly make him think twice and indeed might encourage the others who drink the night before to restrain themselves too. He was probably only tested because of his reputation but I wonder how many of the others would've also failed?

 

Oh and once again you refer to 'all these incidents' - this incident should be treated SOLELY in isolation.

Edited August 17, 2014 by Star Fever

[hagonshocker]

There's a starrrrmaaaan waiting to reply

Hahaha priceless!

[refereerick]

 

Yep I'm definitely for real - just viewing THIS incident only and not letting anything else cloud my judgement.

 

Yes I agree if he 'failed the breathlyser' he was rightly banned from the meeting. If it was well over even a legal limit to drive then YES he should be banned for longer. It is not yet law however to drink and drive if you only have a small quantity of alcohol in your bloodstream. It hasn't been proven yet either that he was 'drunk' - just that he had alcohol in his bloodstream.

 

I'm not a drinker so I'm certainly not defending it, but if I had a couple of shandies and then was deemed 'over the limit' I'd think I was hard done by. None of us yet know EXACTLY how much he exceeded the FIMs legal limit, and YES I agree it should be zero, but he obviously exceeded it so it today's ban was correct, but to ban him for any longer would be pointless. Make a point of testing him every meeting yes - that would certainly make him think twice and indeed might encourage the others who drink the night before to restrain themselves too. He was probably only tested because of his reputation but I wonder how many of the others would've also failed?

You can say how many of the others would have failed but on the flip side you can also say how many meetings has Darcy turned up to under the influence and not been tested and got away with it?

The fact is he has failed an alcohol test and should face the punishment due.

We all complain if we get caught speeding or get a parking ticket, but we all know deep down its our own fault and have to face the consequences, but there are many other times we've got away with it too.

[westhamboy66]

It's probably more like unlucky.

I'm not condoning what he's done but I daresay the majority of posters on this forum have been under the influence at or on their way to and from work at sometime and were lucky not to get caught. He should get a ban and maybe made to qualify for the GPs but I know if I'm honest I couldn't be judge jury and executioner.

Maybe the drug testers should turn up at a meeting and test everyone.

I dare say you are guilty of drink driving etc but don't suggest the majority of posters on here are too, you are way off the mark pal

Trouble is, many of us have had a 'skin full' and driven the following day. How do we know whether we would have failed a breath test? In my opinion, at worst, he would have had a bad meeting and not been a danger to other riders. I wonder what would have happened if the Moran brothers had been tested just before a meeting? Also, I heard stories about a rider, no names, falling out of the van when the passenger door was opened and was due to ride! He was under the influence. No one was hurt and I believe he had a reasonable meeting! Times have changed I understand, but he is a young man and deserves a bit of slack, in my opinion.

 

having seen first hand the results of morons drinking the night before then driving you should be more concerned that you didn't kill a kid rather than worry about failing a breath test, equally Darcy had he ridden would have put his friends and colleagues lives at risk.

I doubt he will get nor deserve slack

[Star Lady]

Yep I'm definitely for real - just viewing THIS incident only and not letting anything else cloud my judgement.

 

Yes I agree if he 'failed the breathlyser' he was rightly banned from the meeting. If it was well over even a legal limit to drive then YES he should be banned for longer. It is not yet law however to drink and drive if you only have a small quantity of alcohol in your bloodstream. It hasn't been proven yet either that he was 'drunk' - just that he had alcohol in his bloodstream.

 

I'm not a drinker so I'm certainly not defending it, but if I had a couple of shandies and then was deemed 'over the limit' I'd think I was hard done by. None of us yet know EXACTLY how much he exceeded the FIMs legal limit, and YES I agree it should be zero, but he obviously exceeded it so it today's ban was correct, but to ban him for any longer would be pointless. Make a point of testing him every meeting yes - that would certainly make him think twice and indeed might encourage the others who drink the night before to restrain themselves too. He was probably only tested because of his reputation but I wonder how many of the others would've also failed?

 

Oh and once again you refer to 'all these incidents' - this incident should be treated SOLELY in isolation.

The point is Darcy and every other rider knew the rules and the consequences. They are in the public domain. He knew them when he signed his GP contract, he has no defence and if the rules say he gets a ban, so be it.

[Star Fever]

You can say how many of the others would have failed but on the flip side you can also say how many meetings has Darcy turned up to under the influence and not been tested and got away with it?

The fact is he has failed an alcohol test and should face the punishment due.

We all complain if we get caught speeding or get a parking ticket, but we all know deep down its our own fault and have to face the consequences, but there are many other times we've got away with it too.

Yes no doubt Ward and plenty of others all get away with it regularly - not disputing that.

 

And yes HE knew he'd made a mistake and admitted it and has faced the consequences with the ban today. With a longer ban tho' how will it help him to curb his drinking before meetings if he has no meetings? If his state of mind is as suspect as people suggest it would probably make him drink even more - what he needs is guidance - NOT to be made an example of.

 

The point is Darcy and every other rider knew the rules and the consequences. They are in the public domain. He knew them when he signed his GP contract, he has no defence and if the rules say he gets a ban, so be it.

Don't disagree, but it has yet to be shown that he was 'drunk' or only exceeded the FIM's limit, so any ban should reflect that I would hope .. and not be a moral judgement based on whatever he has done in the past (for which, as far as I know, he has been acquitted).

Edited August 17, 2014 by Star Fever