dabbsjoe Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 Darcy had his own personal breathalyzer kit and shortly before his first race was planning to test himself. Had he been over he would have withdrawn from the meeting as he's a responsible caring individual. reading that I pictured the words coming out of the mouths of Middlo and Ford 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 Bavarian, he should be punished because he broke the FIM & Wada anti-doping rules. Patryk Dudek got suspended from all speedway for 12 months for violating the same rules so Darcy should be punished in the same way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 because he is a Pole Pirate. Do you mean he steals poles, or is he actually a Pole and not an Aussie? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 Do you mean he steals poles, or is he actually a Pole and not an Aussie?Pole Pirate or Poole Pirate, not much difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John Leslie Posted October 3, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 If you're drunk and sat in your car you will be charged with being drunk in charge of a motor vehicle regardless of whether you've actually driven anywhere or not. Darcy Ward has obviously signed in to a GP meeting, attended a riders' briefing, had his name pulled out for an alcohol test, and failed. His intent to ride in a GP while under the influence of alcohol should be punished the same regardless of whether he actually rode or was stopped from riding. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theknow 2 Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 And as he was fournd to be "over the limit" he has been taken out of the meeting and not allowed to race on that day. A fine for the offense might be apporpiate as well, but a lenghty ban from racing seems a bit harsh. Don't get me wrong, I agree that he should not escape unpunished, all right, but this here turns more and more into a witch hunt and quite a few on the BSF, it seems to me, would rather like to see him burnt on the stakes, just because he is Darcy Ward, or because he is a Pole Pirate, or because he's a ginger head, I don't know? You having a Laugh !!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 If you're drunk and sat in your car you will be charged with being drunk in charge of a motor vehicle regardless of whether you've actually driven anywhere or not. Darcy Ward has obviously signed in to a GP meeting, attended a riders' briefing, had his name pulled out for an alcohol test, and failed. His intent to ride in a GP while under the influence of alcohol should be punished the same regardless of whether he actually rode or was stopped from riding. That's what I was trying to glean from Mr Rising. He was there, his bikes were there, he took the breath test because he intended to ride. It seems like some not very clever people are trying every which way to help him wriggle out of a punishment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theknow 2 Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 If you're drunk and sat in your car you will be charged with being drunk in charge of a motor vehicle regardless of whether you've actually driven anywhere or not. Darcy Ward has obviously signed in to a GP meeting, attended a riders' briefing, had his name pulled out for an alcohol test, and failed. His intent to ride in a GP while under the influence of alcohol should be punished the same regardless of whether he actually rode or was stopped from riding. I also believe he had his mechanics carry him out of the pits shortly after being tested with the knee injury. Must of fell over while under the influeance of drink What next ? THE appeal was against the suspension but does not rule out him challenging the actual procedure in Daugavpils when he appears before the disciplinary committee. One interesting and undoubtedly controversial thought was thrown into the mix last weekend (and I am not saying it is one I agree with). Ward did not ride under the influence of alcohol. Had he ridden and failed a test after the meeting would that be a different offence to the one he is currently charged with? All professional sportsmen including speedway riders are at all times subject to random drug tests, whether at a racetrack or not or even on their days off but that does not apply to alcohol. I can sense another 100 pages looming ... BECAUSE like it or not there are commercial considerations... The let off and wildcard for 2015 grows nearer by the day That's what I was trying to glean from Mr Rising. He was there, his bikes were there, he took the breath test because he intended to ride. It seems like some not very clever people are trying every which way to help him wriggle out of a punishment. This really is showing the chap for what he is, also heard as he didnt arrive at the meeting with his kevlars on he wasnt intending to ride. Must admit i have seen hundreds of riders over the years turn up with all the gear on . Must be hard driving in the steel shoe and visability cant be good with that helmet on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 BECAUSE like it or not there are commercial considerations... No there isn't. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 Who is paying for his legal team anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 Who is paying for his legal team anyway? If Carlsberg paid for legal teams..... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theknow 2 Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 No there isn't. Yes but dont think one swede will affect crowd. AJ keep in but not really good enough and Lindgren is just plain awful !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 No there isn't. OH yes there are ... this could run and run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK246 Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 OH yes there are ... this could run and run. If BSI sufer a finanical loss the thing to do is sue Ward, as he is the cause. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 And as some would argue, he has not put any riders at risk and he has already been punished, with a fine and suspension!! Well if you believe that is sufficient then that is just crazy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 BECAUSE like it or not there are commercial considerations... Then it is no longer 'sport'. I detest how one or two drivers in F1 get their spots with smaller teams because of sponsorship that they bring. A world championship should where possible be either: - Based off a fair qualification, riders earn their right to be there. or - Picked because they are considered to be amongst the best in the world (not because they have a certain nationality) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 Yes but dont think one swede will affect crowd. AJ keep in but not really good enough and Lindgren is just plain awful !!!! sorry is this the AJ who has just won a gp? is this the Lindgren who is among the top 12 in the world every year? They are not awful riders they are world class just probably not up to being in the top 3 . Whatever line up you have you will have riders who will make almost all the semis as a rule like your Tai's Gregs Iversens You will then have those that make more semis then not like Hampel AJ Lindgren Holder Then you those that will miss more than they make like Smolinski Btachelor and Harris This will never change irrelevent of the line up. There is almost 3 tiers of riders and AJ and Lindgren in my view will always be somehere from 7-12 in the series. I agree sometimes new blood is fine but i want the best riders possible and if you can honestly say that Jonasson or Kildemand will do better than AJ and Lindgren then i disagree. Jonasson and Kildemand will be better than the Smolinski's and Harris. If you want no AJ or Freddie its only because of new blood not because they arent good enough 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 And just looking at the results Freddie has made 6 semi finals out of 11 gp's and 2 finals. That to me is a rider who although not a title challenger is able to hold his own and compete at this level. I dont think a Kildemand or a Jonasson would fair any better 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 And just looking at the results Freddie has made 6 semi finals out of 11 gp's and 2 finals. That to me is a rider who although not a title challenger is able to hold his own and compete at this level. I dont think a Kildemand or a Jonasson would fair any better Kildemand was in two GPs this year and got to both finals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 Well if you believe that is sufficient then that is just crazy Did I say that?? No. I said that some would argue it! I've said from the word go that he should receive an appropriate punishment, assuming all the testing was carried out correctly. I happen to think that if found guilty he should be fined and have at least a 12 month ban from the GPs, as that was where the offence was committed - but not from any league racing, in Poland, Sweden or UK!! I know many will disagree, but that's my view!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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