Darcy Ward

[stratton]

Mothersen, i hear what you are saying. Now im a Poole fan, as everybody knows, and i like Darcy as a person and a rider, but i do feel he needs to be punished in some shape or form otherwise he will never learn. When you get to his level in your choosen sport, you tow the line do things by the book and work hard to be the best you can, you only get one chance, one life. I to want to see him ride again, and for Poole. But he needs to take a long hard look at himself in the mirror.

I totally agree and he should be punished, but some people are OTT on here do they know him? probably not.Whenever i have seen him he has been great value,good with the fans young supporters photos,autographs(ect).Like you said some punishment yes but not hung out to dry like some want on here.What about him getting a bit of support even help maybe i hope he turns thing's around.We see this all those years ago when the authorities turned on Mike Lee, no understanding just put the boot in i hope a decision is imminent either way so he can move on.

[Star Lady]

I totally agree and he should be punished, but some people are OTT on here do they know him? probably not.Whenever i have seen him he has been great value,good with the fans young supporters photos,autographs(ect).Like you said some punishment yes but not hung out to dry like some want on here.What about him getting a bit of support even help maybe i hope he turns thing's around.We see this all those years ago when the authorities turned on Mike Lee, no understanding just put the boot in i hope a decision is imminent either way so he can move on.

 

 

Bit in bold is precisely why his transgression should be punished. These young fans look up to him, quite rightly for his on track skills, and if they see he "gets away with it" they will question why follow rules, they'll say Darcy didn't and he is OK.

 

Rules, even tho some seem stupid and OTT, are there for a reason. This rule is there for rider safety. Until it's changed all riders should respect it.

[stratton]

Bit in bold is precisely why his transgression should be punished. These young fans look up to him, quite rightly for his on track skills, and if they see he "gets away with it" they will question why follow rules, they'll say Darcy didn't and he is OK.

 

Rules, even tho some seem stupid and OTT, are there for a reason. This rule is there for rider safety. Until it's changed all riders should respect it.

Hung out to dry? or a little help and understanding?which way would you go? what punishment is suitable "Star Lady.

[Guest]

haha The doctor, do you see what I mean. anybody who has a different opinion to this Coombedog/Jacques poster is accused of being the same person. Im starting to think Jacques has zero interest in speedway and wonder why she's on this forum as most of her posts are abusing others rather than speedway related posts.

Im really sorry. I haven't come on here to argue with other posters. my posts are speedway related but no matter what topic I post on a certain 2 users start negative attacks. I have asked them both to select ignore on their settings so they don't have to see my posts if they offend them in anyway.

 

Better still - you can select to ignore members quite easily from your own Profile. It takes a matter of a few seconds to do. I recommend you try this. Good luck.

Remember - you need to stop Posts being seen by you.

It can only be hoped for the well being of this forum that Ward receives some sort of ban.

 

What do you mean - "...the well being of this forum.." Since when has the BSF been recognised as a "divine authority' on happenings in speedway?

Edited September 24, 2014 by Guest

[pandorum]

I totally agree and he should be punished, but some people are OTT on here do they know him? probably not.Whenever i have seen him he has been great value,good with the fans young supporters photos,autographs(ect).Like you said some punishment yes but not hung out to dry like some want on here.What about him getting a bit of support even help maybe i hope he turns thing's around.We see this all those years ago when the authorities turned on Mike Lee, no understanding just put the boot in i hope a decision is imminent either way so he can move on.

Why do people need to know him to have a negative opinion of him.

I love watching him ride and think he is one of the best riders around but I am old fashioned and tend to dislike people who are abusive to women.

And Darcy was not in court for a traffic offence.

 

What sensible person gets beaten up so badly he ends up in hospital and does not pursue the perpetrator in court?

Nobody normal.

He seems to be a horrible little scroat.

 

But it's for his actions at work he is in the limelight for here and he was caught with booze in his system the day before a GP.

He admitted his guilt in a TV interview that was broadcast.

He should be judged not for his talent but for his offence.

If his crime demands a long ban then give him a long ban same as would be given to a complete nobody.

 

He let himself, his teams and his fans down and deserves all he gets.

It's his own fault not anti Poole fans or anyone else.

Of course the sport needs him but that can't be used for setting a precedent especially with the serious nature of his offence and it's potential ramifications.

[Arson fire]

Really..

yeah, really!!

[stevehone]

 

 

he was caught with booze in his system the day before a GP.

 

one hour before the start of the GP wasn't it?

 

 

 

 

the cynical side of me is wondering if the decision won't be made until all the speedway has finished for the season, therefore allowing clubs a facility for a suspended rider .. is a facility available for a banned rider?

Edited September 24, 2014 by stevehone

[Star Lady]

Hung out to dry? or a little help and understanding?which way would you go? what punishment is suitable "Star Lady.

My personal opinion is the help is out there if Darcy or anyone else chooses to use it. If folk don't want help you can't force them to take it. As for his punishment, that should be left to the authorities. However I'm a firm believer in justice should not only be done but should be seen to be done so my opinion is that he should not be given a wild card for 2015 GPs, if his ban doesn't allow him into the qualifiers and he keeps his nose clean until the Challenge in 2015 give him a wild card for that. If he further offends throw the book at him.

[SCB]

 

one hour before the start of the GP wasn't it?

 

 

 

 

the cynical side of me is wondering if the decision won't be made until all the speedway has finished for the season, therefore allowing clubs a facility for a suspended rider .. is a facility available for a banned rider?

A suspension is temporary. A ban is permanent. Darcy is currently "suspended indefinitely" and once he's had his hearing he'll be "suspended for x month" - there no difference in terms or terminology used - just timings. So it doesn't effect his clubs either way.

 

The delay is just a chance for the FIM, WADA and Darcys legal time a fair chance to gather evidence and look up the legalities. Do it too quickly and you run the risk of "due care" not being given to the situation and the hearing being unfair.

[pandorum]

 

one hour before the start of the GP wasn't it?

 

my bad

[screm]

 

 

 

What do you mean - "...the well being of this forum.." Since when has the BSF been recognised as a "divine authority' on happenings in speedway?

 

The day after I joined.

[Grand Central]

A suspension is temporary. A ban is permanent. Darcy is currently "suspended indefinitely" and once he's had his hearing he'll be "suspended for x month" - there no difference in terms or terminology used - just timings. So it doesn't effect his clubs either way.

 

The delay is just a chance for the FIM, WADA and Darcys legal time a fair chance to gather evidence and look up the legalities. Do it too quickly and you run the risk of "due care" not being given to the situation and the hearing being unfair.

All spot on.

 

As he has been suspended by the FIM he WILL get a ban.

And that ban will start on the very same day as his suspension started.

That is is the reason the FIM used the time after the incident to convene with its lawyers on the correct protocol.

 

The only question will be the be the length of the ban they deem appropriate at the tribunal.

It may turn out to be exactly the same as the suspension period already served or, hopefully, longer.

 

The FIM will not consider him for wildcard selection at all during the period of suspension for ban.

They just can't.

 

The FIM will not care one jot about any 'club' in this matter.

 

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Edited September 24, 2014 by Grand Central

[Pirate Nick]

Don't think the FIM allocate the wildcards.

 

Am still wondering why this is taking so long?

[Grand Central]

Don't think the FIM allocate the wildcards.

 

Am still wondering why this is taking so long?

 

They don't allocate wildcards.

No one said they did.

 

The FIM have to sanction the list that BSI put to them.

 

I imagine that the FIM are talking this long just because they see no urgency whatsoever in this.

We might think this whole matter is really, really vital and urgent.

In Geneva, they don't.

[weatherwatcher]

I may be wrong but I am sure I saw a website a couple of weeks ago that stated that Darcy was thinking of riding Moto-X next year.

Can't find it anywhere now, but if he is banned by the FIA, has he should be and for at least a period of 12 months, then I am sure that the ban would be the same in any form of motor sport.

It would be wrong for them to just let things go after he has been suspended for a few months and then come back as if nothing happened. They have got to make a stand here or it makes the rules of the sport a mockery.

He was actually show standing with one of the Moto-X teams that said he may ride for them next year.

From what I saw of him the last few months he was riding he seemed to be very disalosined with the sport of speedway, it just didn't seem that his heart was in it as strong as it once was.

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[Guest]

I may be wrong but I am sure I saw a website a couple of weeks ago that stated that Darcy was thinking of riding Moto-X next year.

Can't find it anywhere now, but if he is banned by the FIA, has he should be and for at least a period of 12 months, then I am sure that the ban would be the same in any form of motor sport.

It would be wrong for them to just let things go after he has been suspended for a few months and then come back as if nothing happened. They have got to make a stand here or it makes the rules of the sport a mockery.

He was actually show standing with one of the Moto-X teams that said he may ride for them next year.

From what I saw of him the last few months he was riding he seemed to be very disalosined with the sport of speedway, it just didn't seem that his heart was in it as strong as it once was.

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I saw a mention some where on FACEBOOK that Darcy Ward might be invited to drive a sprint car or midget car in the USA in 2015. Most speedway riders adapt quickly to these formula so it could be plausible?

[pandorum]

 

From what I saw of him the last few months he was riding he seemed to be very disalosined with the sport of speedway, it just didn't seem that his heart was in it as strong as it once was.

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Maybe he was not hydrating?

[Trees]

I may be wrong but I am sure I saw a website a couple of weeks ago that stated that Darcy was thinking of riding Moto-X next year.

Can't find it anywhere now, but if he is banned by the FIA, has he should be and for at least a period of 12 months, then I am sure that the ban would be the same in any form of motor sport.

It would be wrong for them to just let things go after he has been suspended for a few months and then come back as if nothing happened. They have got to make a stand here or it makes the rules of the sport a mockery.

He was actually show standing with one of the Moto-X teams that said he may ride for them next year.

From what I saw of him the last few months he was riding he seemed to be very disalosined with the sport of speedway, it just didn't seem that his heart was in it as strong as it once was.

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On the other hand, when he rode at Lynn last he was 100% team man, very good!

[f-s-p]

Cant see how Ward is able to "race" anything If the FIM bans him after his failed Alco/dopingtest. Possibly some outlaw-weightlifting, but thats it. Any sport worldwide under WADA wont touch him, if he's banned.

 

Also, what the greying people at the top (and I have photo evidence) need to realise, is that they are setting a benchmark. By possibly giving Darky another pass, they are infact stating that it's ok to drink and ride around the world.

 

A"Black'n-green"men to that.

[weatherwatcher]

Just found it, was a coment he made on Twitter, I think it was just one of his many thoughts on what to do next. Someone had also stated that there may be 4 Aussie's in the GP's next year and he replied it will be more like 3, so he may already have idea's up his sleeve to what he is going to do next year.

Darcy Ward #4⃣3⃣ @D_Dublu_racing · Sep 17

RV2 in mxgp next year ?? Mmm possible.

I agree with that if they don't make an issue of this it makes the whole thing of riders turning up at meetings after drinking a farse. If Darcy can get away with it then so can we.

Not that top riders with any sense would even think of drinking before a meeting. But something has to be done to show he can't get away with acting like an out and out prat all the time.

Edited September 24, 2014 by weatherwatcher