arnieg Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 So still no news on the FIM on a hearing date for Darcy, what could be the hold up? Lawyers... Nuff said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 So still no news on the FIM on a hearing date for Darcy, what could be the hold up? Legal !!!! Theres a piece from one of the Polish media sites, which I can't now find the link to, which is questioning the accuracy of the reading and the circumstances of the actual test. Also if the translation was accurate, The FIM's Armando Castagna seemed to be 'recommending' a lenient punishment, possibly a suspended sentence??! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Well hopefully they will get on the hearing then we shall all know where we stand, interesting one was Darcy on his own that night or with another rider?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) if there were something wrong with the testing I don't think the medical committee would have sent the case to the disciplinary court. I hope that Darcy will get a minimum of 12 month suspension but I wouldn't be surprised if he got away with it.... again. Edited September 4, 2014 by Ghostwalker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 if there were something wrong with the testing I don't think the medical committee would have sent the case to the disciplinary court. I hope that Darcy will get a minimum of 12 month suspension but I wouldn't be surprised if he got away with it.... again. When was the last time that Darcy failed an alcohol test. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Well hopefully they will get on the hearing then we shall all know where we stand, interesting one was Darcy on his own that night or with another rider?? Roland a poster on here said he saw him out with Monster Joe the night before, he didn't mention another rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Will be interesting to know if he was in fact out with any fellow GP boys that night! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 When was the last time that Darcy failed an alcohol test. It was in January this year. Darcy was caught driving an uninsured motorcycle while being under the influence of alcohol and narcotics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie B Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 So Darcy was prevented for racing in the GP fair enough on the night, because speedway is dangerous enough sport. But I don't think that he should have been suspended from all speedway because of it. Just what would happen in the world of darts if players were stopped from drinking before playing their matches, their would be no-one left in any competition. Remember Australian Anthony Fleet who played against Martin Adams in the 2010 BDO World Championship he was so drunk on stage that he nearly fell off it. Nothing happened to him, as far as I'm aware, in this professional sport. I run a local dart league and I know that without drink inside over 99% of the players a large number wouldn't be able to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Robbie, you do agree on that throwing darts at a dart board while being under the influence of alcohol is slightly less dangerous the riding a motorcycle at 70-80mph on a gravel track with three others which is why alcohol is banned in motorcycle sport by Wads whereas it isn't in dart. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchGrasstrack Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Can't believe what I'm reading here, darts being compared to a high speed motorsport without brakes. Darts isn't even a sport lol. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Well hopefully they will get on the hearing then we shall all know where we stand, interesting one was Darcy on his own that night or with another rider?? with his dad I would imagine, possibly amongst others!! It was in January this year. Darcy was caught driving an uninsured motorcycle while being under the influence of alcohol and narcotics. That was in 2012 at the back of his house in Oz - out of season - and it didn't amount to a 'conviction' in Aussie law!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) So Darcy was prevented for racing in the GP fair enough on the night, because speedway is dangerous enough sport. But I don't think that he should have been suspended from all speedway because of it. Just what would happen in the world of darts if players were stopped from drinking before playing their matches, their would be no-one left in any competition. Remember Australian Anthony Fleet who played against Martin Adams in the 2010 BDO World Championship he was so drunk on stage that he nearly fell off it. Nothing happened to him, as far as I'm aware, in this professional sport. I run a local dart league and I know that without drink inside over 99% of the players a large number wouldn't be able to play. So Darcy can take up darts then. Problem solved. Edited September 4, 2014 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie B Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) Robbie, you do agree on that throwing darts at a dart board while being under the influence of alcohol is slightly less dangerous the riding a motorcycle at 70-80mph on a gravel track with three others which is why alcohol is banned in motorcycle sport by Wads whereas it isn't in dart. Ghostwalker I totally agree with you about darts being less dangerous then speedway. But I just can't see why Darcy has been suspended from all speedway, for now. Obviously I don't condone what he did at all, and turning up at any speedway meeting while still under the influence of alcohol now matter how small the amount night be is his part was just plain stupid. But the next day he would have been sober, and as he said in a interview during the Grand Prix on Eurosport he has learnt his lesson, for what he did, and that he would do this again, in the future. By all means the authorities could monitor him or any other rider in breech of this offence. But to suspend him from all speedway - when a large fine would be suffice - I feel is a little harsh and deprives all supporters of speedway from enjoying his talents on a bike. By the way I'm not a Poole supporter in case anyone thinks I' am. So Darcy can take up darts then. Problem solved. You could be right there. A large fine and future monitoring of him or any other rider who attends a meeting under the influence of drink that they were supposed to be riding in I feel would be enough of punishment. Can't believe what I'm reading here, darts being compared to a high speed motorsport without brakes. Darts isn't even a sport lol. Believe it or not darts is now a recognised sport. There are most likely other sports where have a drink before taking part wouldn't get you into trouble. As I have said i don't condone what Darcy did, but a total ban from speedway, for now I feel is a little excessive. Edited September 4, 2014 by Robbie B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) Robbie, he should be suspended because he violated Wada's and FIM's anti-doping rule. In all forms of motorsport (cars, bikes, boats , planes & etc) alcohol is considered doping (safety reasons) so being under the influence of alcohol just before/at a competition means that Darcy per Wada's and FIM's definitions is guilty of doping. This means that he should be punished as everybody else that are guilty of doping. This is also why a player who is being under the influence of alcohol at a football game isn't the same thing as Darcy getting caught at Daugavpils. Edited September 4, 2014 by Ghostwalker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Ghostwalker I totally agree with you about darts being less dangerous then speedway. But I just can't see why Darcy has been suspended from all speedway, for now. Obviously I don't condone what he did at all, and turning up at any speedway meeting while still under the influence of alcohol now matter how small the amount night be is his part was just plain stupid. But the next day he would have been sober, and as he said in a interview during the Grand Prix on Eurosport he has learnt his lesson, for what he did, and that he would do this again, in the future. By all means the authorities could monitor him or any other rider in breech of this offence. But to suspend him from all speedway - when a large fine would be suffice - I feel is a little harsh and deprives all supporters of speedway from enjoying his talents on a bike. By the way I'm not a Poole supporter in case anyone thinks I' am. You could be right there. A large fine and future monitoring of him or any other rider who attends a meeting under the influence of drink that they were supposed to be riding in I feel would be enough of punishment. Believe it or not darts is now a recognised sport. There are most likely other sports where have a drink before taking part wouldn't get you into trouble. As I have said i don't condone what Darcy did, but a total ban from speedway, for now I feel is a little excessive. Neil, Neil, is that you Neil? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) But the next day he would have been sober, and as he said in a interview during the Grand Prix on Eurosport he has learnt his lesson, for what he did, and that he would do this again, in the future. No he didn't. He was interviewed, he made excuses and next time said he'd hydrate before the test. So he's going to try and cover it up next time. hopefully nobody tells him hydrating wont hide the alcohol so he does it again and gets a life time ban. Edited September 4, 2014 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 So Darcy was prevented for racing in the GP fair enough on the night, because speedway is dangerous enough sport. But I don't think that he should have been suspended from all speedway because of it. Just what would happen in the world of darts if players were stopped from drinking before playing their matches, their would be no-one left in any competition. Remember Australian Anthony Fleet who played against Martin Adams in the 2010 BDO World Championship he was so drunk on stage that he nearly fell off it. Nothing happened to him, as far as I'm aware, in this professional sport. I run a local dart league and I know that without drink inside over 99% of the players a large number wouldn't be able to play. I might try that one if I ever get my collar felt for being slightly over the limit while driving. "But Anthony Fleet did it in a darts match" is a perfect defense. That one is as good as immunity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie B Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Robbie, he should be suspended because he violated Wada's and FIM's anti-doping rule. In all forms of motorsport (cars, bikes, boats , planes & etc) alcohol is considered doping (safety reasons) so being under the influence of alcohol just before/at a competition means that Darcy per Wada's and FIM's definitions is guilty of doping. This means that he should be punished as everybody else that are guilty of doping. This is also why a player who is being under the influence of alcohol at a football game isn't the same thing as Darcy getting caught at Daugavpils. Hi Ghostwalker Many thanks for the information. As I had stated I condone what Darcy did in anyway. But it's strange that some sports their players/riders or whatever they maybe are treated differently to others. I know that professional dart players in the past have been banned for using drugs yet alcohol is aloud except on stage, where everyone must drink water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Hi Ghostwalker Many thanks for the information. As I had stated I condone what Darcy did in anyway. But it's strange that some sports their players/riders or whatever they maybe are treated differently to others. I know that professional dart players in the past have been banned for using drugs yet alcohol is aloud except on stage, where everyone must drink water. Yes it is really, if speedway riders have to wear leathers and helmets why are dart players allowed (aloud) to wear fancy shirts. Its one law for dart players and one for speedway riders 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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