wealdstone Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 In the long term it will do Ward good if he is taught a salatory lesson whilst there is still time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 A long wait for any decision on Ward's punishment, but rumour has it he will be banned from British racing from November 2014 until March 2015. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woofers Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 (edited) Wouldn't it have made sense to suspend his licences to ride while this was going on? I believe suspensions happen in other sports whilst investigations take place. This would have 2 impacts that I can think of - 1. It would serve as a sharp reminder to Mr Ward just what is at stake as he would be missing rides immediately, even if temporarily, and 2. It would put the matter on the agenda fairly sharply for the relevant bodies to adjudicate. A long wait for any decision on Ward's punishment, but rumour has it he will be banned from British racing from November 2014 until March 2015.Hilarious.... Edited August 27, 2014 by woofers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 EXACTLY and the more time goes by the more credence is given to the possibility that there has been a procedural error. Also, the timing of any ban should it now come is interesting. Too late to pull him out of Poole's fixture this evening, tomorrow he will already be en route to both Gorzow and Zielona Gora, on Monday he is at Lakeside and on Tuesday in Sweden. Any action by the FIM that is subsequently over-turned would also open them to possible litigation from his clubs in Britain and Sweden who cloud claim damage to their business at the tail end of the season. It's a mess... Phil Is it procedure to take a blood sample if riders fail a blood test, a subsequent properly taken blood test would quickly either clear or determine a riders intoxication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 The most likely scenario is that they are looking for a way out. Understand that if banned Ward has threatened to scream and scream untill he is sick. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 Darcy looked too smug for me when he did his tv interview in Latvia - maybe he knew there was a technical infringement that would give him a "get out of jail free" card. I hope its not the case - for his sake, and for the sake of others unless he changes. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimiC Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 EXACTLY and the more time goes by the more credence is given to the possibility that there has been a procedural error. Also, the timing of any ban should it now come is interesting. Too late to pull him out of Poole's fixture this evening, tomorrow he will already be en route to both Gorzow and Zielona Gora, on Monday he is at Lakeside and on Tuesday in Sweden. Any action by the FIM that is subsequently over-turned would also open them to possible litigation from his clubs in Britain and Sweden who cloud claim damage to their business at the tail end of the season. It's a mess... And take this on further, if Ward's team could prove there was a procedural error, could he then insist that the Latvian GP results be scrubbed? This is a genuine question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 And take this on further, if Ward's team could prove there was a procedural error, could he then insist that the Latvian GP results be scrubbed? This is a genuine questionWhy not,the whole thing is a farce anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans fan Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 EXACTLY and the more time goes by the more credence is given to the possibility that there has been a procedural error. Also, the timing of any ban should it now come is interesting. Too late to pull him out of Poole's fixture this evening, tomorrow he will already be en route to both Gorzow and Zielona Gora, on Monday he is at Lakeside and on Tuesday in Sweden. Any action by the FIM that is subsequently over-turned would also open them to possible litigation from his clubs in Britain and Sweden who cloud claim damage to their business at the tail end of the season. It's a mess... its a mess thro wards doing lets not forget that , if his clubs were that worried (he did admit to drinking) they should have been looking to replace as soon as it happened 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 its a mess thro wards doing lets not forget that , if his clubs were that worried (he did admit to drinking) they should have been looking to replace as soon as it happened Absolutely right. No one is really saying that they think he didn't really 'blow' a true positive here are they? What we are talking about is that the procedures that need to be followed in order for the test to be so watertight that it will not be taken apart by some high flying lawyer in Geneva may not quite be adequate. Or that is what they are endeavouring to check out. The truth is that the guy, by his own admission, had too much to drink the night before. And he got caught out the following lunchtime. The serial D!ckhead is the one at fault here. Any only him. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 (edited) Phil Is it procedure to take a blood sample if riders fail a blood test, a subsequent properly taken blood test would quickly either clear or determine a riders intoxication. I've asked this question more than once directly and indirectly, he doesn't seem to want to answer....... EXACTLY and the more time goes by the more credence is given to the possibility that there has been a procedural error. Also, the timing of any ban should it now come is interesting. Too late to pull him out of Poole's fixture this evening, tomorrow he will already be en route to both Gorzow and Zielona Gora, on Monday he is at Lakeside and on Tuesday in Sweden. Any action by the FIM that is subsequently over-turned would also open them to possible litigation from his clubs in Britain and Sweden who cloud claim damage to their business at the tail end of the season. It's a mess... Are you alluding to the fact that you know that there is an issue, is it guess work, or are we to await an SS exclusive, read all about it post? Edited August 27, 2014 by Jacques Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave69 Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 If he gets off on a technicality could the other riders withold their services Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 Absolutely right. No one is really saying that they think he didn't really 'blow' a true positive here are they? What we are talking about is that the procedures that need to be followed in order for the test to be so watertight that it will not be taken apart by some high flying lawyer in Geneva may not quite be adequate. Or that is what they are endeavouring to check out. The truth is that the guy, by his own admission, had too much to drink the night before. And he got caught out the following lunchtime. The serial D!ckhead is the one at fault here. Any only him. I agree with the majority of your post, however, I think it's fair to say that he only admitted he'd had a conciliatory drink or two after he failed the test. If, there turns out to be a fault with the device or the procedure then I'd imagine that admission will be blown out of the water......... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 I've asked this question more than once directly and indirectly, he doesn't seem to want to answer....... Are you alluding to the fact that you know that there is an issue, is it guess work, or are we to await an SS exclusive, read all about it post? TOO late to include much in SS this week. Just seems that if everything was cut and dried the FIM would have made a decision by now and we would know about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 How long did it take for a decision in the Danno case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 Popular story I hear at times... An ice racing GP in Hamar, random riders selected for the test. All blew over the limit. Another test. Same results. The police doing the test blows it, over the limit. Reason? Methanol fumes inside the rink and pit area. They go outside, take another device and all blow zero. Including the police. Changing the main jet on a speedway bike carburettor is a way of covering your hand with methanol, this is a very regular practice at speedway meetings. So as methanol is very high in alcohol content could a rider be over the zero limit by having methanol soak in the skin of his hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 TOO late to include much in SS this week. Just seems that if everything was cut and dried the FIM would have made a decision by now and we would know about it. Bumper issue next week then Ward will ride Saturday no doubt too! Just a quick question Phil little off topic. Where in my area can I buy the SS should I want to in the TA postcode? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 How long did it take for a decision in the Danno case? VERY different scenario and it was actually SVEMO who suspended Danno for eight months and the FIM didn't dish out any penalty of their own. Bumper issue next week then Ward will ride Saturday no doubt too! Just a quick question Phil little off topic. Where in my area can I buy the SS should I want to in the TA postcode? WILL enquire but the majority of Tesco stores stock SS as do many Asda and Sainsbury supermarkets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 Bumper issue next week then Ward will ride Saturday no doubt too! Just a quick question Phil little off topic. Where in my area can I buy the SS should I want to in the TA postcode? Save money and subscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 VERY different scenario and it was actually SVEMO who suspended Danno for eight months and the FIM didn't dish out any penalty of their own. WILL enquire but the majority of Tesco stores stock SS as do many Asda and Sainsbury supermarkets. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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