Lioness Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 So what you are implying is that I failed to read your post correctly. If you look carefully I'm over here in the " I failed miserably in reading the whole post and letting it register before posting a reply corner" Come on in, pull up a chair and help yourself to a beer....there are quite a few of us here already ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 The system meant you didn't have to win races. 2nd places was fine, even throw in the odd 3rd place.. Thus a 3rd 2nd 3rd 2nd was just as good as 1st 1st 1st 1st. You didn't have to be the most consistent rider either. It was an exciting system, but a flawed one. Loram was the only rider in the history of the GP's to be World Champion without winning a GP too. Incidentally, there is quite a quirk in that season's GP.... If you take the top 3 Loram, Rickardsson and Hamill... and calculate there standard 4 rider average over the GP all of them come out at 8.14! Hamill 15 (6) 2 (2) 17 (7) 0 (2) 15 (7) 10 (5) Loram 16 (7) 10(4) 7 (4) 8 (4) 7 (4) 9 (5) Rickardsson 7 (4) 9 (4) 11 (5) 9 (5) 3 (3) 16 (6) Hamill 59 29 8.14 Rickardsson 55 27 8.14 Loram 57 28 8.14 How bizarre is that? i know what you mean but Mark didnt win many races. many people on here always commented on Rickardsson winning of gate one then having gate one again and again thus having the best gate every time. If you came 3rd you went into an eliminator and if you then came second you had a poor gate next time. In the current system you dont have to win a gp to be world champion its all about consistency in the meetings that count. In 2000 Mark was a deserved world champion in the system that was being used. The one-off world final was often won by a rider who wasnt neccesarily the best rider in the world that year. Jonsson in 1990 and Rickardsson in 1994 spring to mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 OUT of interest (or boredom - it's raining) who would you consider to be the best riders in 1990n and 1994? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_D Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 I would have said Per Jonsson was the best rider in the World in 1990, 1992 and 1994. Rain robbed him of the title in 1992 and injury in 1994. He would have been a multi GP winner as the format would have suited him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 OUT of interest (or boredom - it's raining) who would you consider to be the best riders in 1990n and 1994? Per Jonsson in 1990 - who actually won it. I'd argue that Rickardsson was never the best rider any year he won it, if you're talking about all-round performance, but along with Gundersen had the knack of pulling it out of the bag in world championship events. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 Off the top of my head I'd go for Janno in 1990 and Nielsen in 1994. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 OUT of interest (or boredom - it's raining) who would you consider to be the best riders in 1990n and 1994?Hans in 94. 90 you could mske arguments for hans, jan o, moran or jonsson. I reckon hans would have won a gp series both years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 ADMIT he's a mate but always felt Tetum could have won at Bradford ... the track really suited him but he got shafted by Hans (a friend!) in a vital heat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 OUT of interest (or boredom - it's raining) who would you consider to be the best riders in 1990n and 1994? Discussed at length here http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=50265&p=1594656 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 Discussed at length here http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=50265&p=1594656 THANKS for the link... interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 ADMIT he's a mate but always felt Tetum could have won at Bradford ... the track really suited him but he got shafted by Hans (a friend!) in a vital heat. Tatum was always too inconsistent to string together five good rides in a row, especially at the highest level. Never mattered what the track was like. He maybe started to get it together when he focused on longtrack, but not at his speedway career peak. BTW - Tatum did exactly the same thing to Nielsen in the previous years' Intercontinental Final, so it's all fair in love and war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oleoleole Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 So I pressume Darcy Ward will ride in Gorzow if we hear nothing from the FIM. Isn't that rather strange? Also why doesn't anybody seem to know when the FIM hearing will be? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 So I pressume Darcy Ward will ride in Gorzow if we hear nothing from the FIM. Isn't that rather strange? Also why doesn't anybody seem to know when the FIM hearing will be? BECAUSE the FIM haven't told us... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 BECAUSE the FIM haven't told us...Are the FIM untouchable? why hasn't a decision been made it should of been either way, 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mandy7162 Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 He will get punished but nothing he gets will satisfy most of you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 Maybe they'll do what they did with shawn moran, let him ride the remaining meetings then strip him of his medal... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 Is it such a difficult decision to make? Surely not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) Tatum was always too inconsistent to string together five good rides in a row, especially at the highest level. Never mattered what the track was like. He maybe started to get it together when he focused on longtrack, but not at his speedway career peak. BTW - Tatum did exactly the same thing to Nielsen in the previous years' Intercontinental Final, so it's all fair in love and war. He just couldn't consistently go great guns, fire himself to the front and create super speedway. OUT of interest (or boredom - it's raining) who would you consider to be the best riders in 1990n and 1994? 1990 - Trevor O'Brien. Well, I liked him..... Depends on your criteria I guess. Most fun I'd had since the legendary Pete Wigley. As for 1994, was there a speedway season? Edited August 25, 2014 by rmc 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 Is it such a difficult decision to make? Surely not. No it shouldn't be really and I find it strange that there aren't any pre-defined rulings for riders who are caught being intoxicated in relation to a meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 Are the FIM untouchable? why hasn't a decision been made it should of been either way, According to Twitter there are "some legal concerns". No idea what they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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