SCB Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Darcy who? And what's he got to do with this thread? Did he ever ride in the NL or the PL? He rode PL but not NL and he consider by some to be the most naturally talented rider ever. Proof the PL is better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 I used to watch PL speedway regularly at Sheffield. Watching it, you form your own ideas of who are brilliant riders and who are not so good. It was a shock to see how different the levels are, when riders at that time I thought were brilliant would ride in the EL and suddenyl be completely outclassed. EL was a lot stronger in those days, mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) I would have thought it was time to retire this thread now. It once had ambition, full of drive, with a future. It was an Elite thread. But it has now dropped back into the lower division. Scoring just the easy points against rather mediocre debaters. It has become a Journeyman itself. A sort of self parody. And then we can start a new thread about DW when he next does something worth chatting about. Good or Bad. As he surely will do one or other. Or even both. . Edited July 15, 2015 by Grand Central 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 I would have thought it was time to retire this thread now. It once had ambition, full of drive, with a future. It was an Elite thread. But it has now dropped back into the lower division. Scoring just the easy points against rather mediocre debaters. It has become a Journeyman itself. A sort of self parody. And then we can start a new thread about DW when he next does something worth chatting about. Good or Bad. As he surely will do one or other. Or even both. . We're just keeping the thread alive until Darcy gives us more to talk about... and keep chasing the record of the infamous Norbolds hole! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Has Darcy made a statement about his ban yet? Will he appeal against the ban? When does his ban finish? When will Jerran Hart be freed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Has Darcy made a statement about his ban yet? Will he appeal against the ban? When does his ban finish? When will Jerran Hart be freed? What ban are you referring too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 We're just keeping the thread alive until Darcy gives us more to talk about... and keep chasing the record of the infamous Norbolds hole! But at least that thread kept to the subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 But at least that thread kept to the subject. So has this one.. Darcy Ward rode in the Premier League... A rather tenuous link some might say though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 He rode PL but not NL and he consider by some to be the most naturally talented rider ever. Proof the PL is better! Technically, he rode for Boston in the 2008 Conference League, which is now the National League. Also, I'm going to pull BWitcher up for calling the National League from the 1970s and 1980s as "the old National League". Nope it was actually called "The New National League" in 1975. The old National League ran from 1932 to 1964. All the best Rob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Technically, he rode for Boston in the 2008 Conference League, which is now the National League. Also, I'm going to pull BWitcher up for calling the National League from the 1970s and 1980s as "the old National League". Nope it was actually called "The New National League" in 1975. The old National League ran from 1932 to 1964. All the best Rob You can't have both of them.... If you can call the CL the NL then BWitcher is ok calling it the old NL, as thats what it is now One of the other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) You can't have both of them.... If you can call the CL the NL then BWitcher is ok calling it the old NL, as thats what it is now One of the other 1932-1964: The "old" National League 1975: Official name - the New National League 1976-1990: The "new" National League 2010 onwards: The National Development League All the best Rob Edited July 15, 2015 by lucifer sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) Technically, he rode for Boston in the 2008 Conference League, which is now the National League. Also, I'm going to pull BWitcher up for calling the National League from the 1970s and 1980s as "the old National League". Nope it was actually called "The New National League" in 1975. The old National League ran from 1932 to 1964. All the best Rob Talking of the old National League have we discussed the 1934 National League Second Division yet? Tommy Price, George Wilks, Wal Morton, Alec Statham, Mike Erskine and Acorn Dobson all rode in that one. Edited July 15, 2015 by norbold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) Talking of the old National League have we discussed the 1934 National League Second Division yet? Tommy Price, George Wilks, Wal Morton, Alec Statham, Mike Erskine and Acorn Dobson all rode in that one. Must have been a fairly young Tommy Price at that point, Norbold. Were the others all youngsters, or were any established top riders? I think you were on a better bet with the NL2 of the early fifties.... wasn't Ken Le Breton in there alongside Jack Young? And I'm sure a THIRD Division rider qualified for the World Final one year, although it's escaped me who it was... All the best Rob Edited July 15, 2015 by lucifer sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Technically, he rode for Boston in the 2008 Conference League, which is now the National League. Also, I'm going to pull BWitcher up for calling the National League from the 1970s and 1980s as "the old National League". Nope it was actually called "The New National League" in 1975. The old National League ran from 1932 to 1964. All the best Rob The formation of a second division in 1968 was called just that, the second division. In 1975 it was renamed the "New National League" the new to distinguish it from the original National League which as you say, ran until 1964 but was the top division then. The New National league ran for two years if I recall before being re branded in 1977 to simply the National League. The name "National League" has now been used to name all three of the divisions of British Speedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) Geoff Mardon qualified as reserve. Sorry, that was a reply to Rob's question about which 3rd Division rider qualified for the World Final. Edited July 15, 2015 by norbold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) The formation of a second division in 1968 was called just that, the second division. In 1975 it was renamed the "New National League" the new to distinguish it from the original National League which as you say, ran until 1964 but was the top division then. The New National league ran for two years if I recall before being re branded in 1977 to simply the National League. The name "National League" has now been used to name all three of the divisions of British Speedway Oldace, yes I've posted all that already, you're about half an hour behind. Incidentally, the NNL only existed in 1975; it was called just the NL in 1976, although many programmes still referred to it as the NNL. ALl the best Rob Edited July 15, 2015 by lucifer sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Technically, he rode for Boston in the 2008 Conference League, which is now the National League. Also, I'm going to pull BWitcher up for calling the National League from the 1970s and 1980s as "the old National League". Nope it was actually called "The New National League" in 1975. The old National League ran from 1932 to 1964. All the best Rob Damn you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) Geoff Mardon qualified as reserve. Sorry, that was a reply to Rob's question about which 3rd Division rider qualified for the World Final. Cheers Norbold - so the National League Division Three of 1947 to 1951 was much stronger than the NDL of today then. All the best Rob Edited July 15, 2015 by lucifer sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Before the Shawcross report and the merger of the two leagues, wasn't the Provincial League (technically a 2nd division) home to a large number of decent riders? Due to the lack of numbers in the top flight then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) Before the Shawcross report and the merger of the two leagues, wasn't the Provincial League (technically a 2nd division) home to a large number of decent riders? Due to the lack of numbers in the top flight then? There were a few (a certain Mr Mauger for starters), although the old National League riders were like golddust in the British League, hence the introduction of rider control. All the best Rob Edited July 15, 2015 by lucifer sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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