uk_martin Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 On the other hand it was a shame that Cassius Clay missed a few years...... EUREKA! This is exactly the role model that Darcy Ward should follow. He should convert to Islam (never a drop of alcohol will pass his lips then) - change his name to something Islamic e.g. Daheer Waheed and ride in a plain black race suit. Now that would be big box office when he makes his (then to be) much awaited return... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I don't think I did ask you did I? :D Well no, but I'll give you my opinion, anway. And how about the procedure of directly seeding riders from the home nation to the final, which lasted throughout the sixties and seventies. Britain always qualifiers. But how about the Poles? They tended to seed their representatives. Are you saying the World Finals of 1970, 1973, 1976 and 1979 were not proper World Finals? All the best Rob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Well no, but I'll give you my opinion, anway. And how about the procedure of directly seeding riders from the home nation to the final, which lasted throughout the sixties and seventies. Britain always qualifiers. But how about the Poles? They tended to seed their representatives. Are you saying the World Finals of 1970, 1973, 1976 and 1979 were not proper World Finals? All the best Rob Indeed. although in 1978 there were 4 guaranteed places given over to the Brits albeit we used the British Final to determine those 4. In truth though that was harsh because although we had 4 seeded places, it was of course only 4 so no matter how many quality Brits were around only 4 could possibly be at Wembley. Even worse a spoonful of sugar in this case didn't help the medicine go down but robbed PC of one of those 4 places Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Indeed. although in 1978 there were 4 guaranteed places given over to the Brits albeit we used the British Final to determine those 4. In truth though that was harsh because although we had 4 seeded places, it was of course only 4 so no matter how many quality Brits were around only 4 could possibly be at Wembley. Even worse a spoonful of sugar in this case didn't help the medicine go down but robbed PC of one of those 4 places Arguably 1972 was even tougher, 5 places from the British Final to Wembley, INCLUDING New Zealnders and Aussies. Yes, we did lose out sometimes due to not seeding our best men. PC was always a force around Wembley and he would have been a real contender in the '78 final. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 It was in a sense an Olympics where one or two of those missing have been remembered. There was a film based on this jewish athletes life made http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gretel_Bergmann Hmmm, can't quite help thinking the 1936 Olympics are remembered more as the Jesse Owens Olympics than the Olympics Gretel Bergmann missed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) Hmmm, can't quite help thinking the 1936 Olympics are remembered more as the Jesse Owens Olympics than the Olympics Gretel Bergmann missed! Well quite.... who's Gretel Bergmann? I do know now, but only after clicking on the link (I hadn't seen the film). All the best Rob Edited March 13, 2015 by lucifer sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 So last week Darcy promised us a statement this week or next (that being last week or this week). Where is this statement? What a joke. You'd think after the moaning about the FIM delay that Darcy and his crew would be keen to show them how its done! He can't/won't give a statement until FIM have given their 'full reasoning' in their own statement, which according to the often quoted FIM rule should be within 45 days of the hearing, so we've got til Sunday for the FIM to issue theirs first. Then DW has 21 days to appeal or not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 He can't/won't give a statement until FIM have given their 'full reasoning' in their own statement, which according to the often quoted FIM rule should be within 45 days of the hearing, so we've got til Sunday for the FIM to issue theirs first. Then DW has 21 days to appeal or not. So why promises a statement this week or next (last week or this week) if he couldn't? And the 45 days is the current rules, the rules that are relevant say "reasonable time" so they could take another few weeks in theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Well quite.... who's Gretel Bergmann? I do know now, but only after clicking on the link (I hadn't seen the film). All the best Rob Your original statement Rob was "no-one remembers the losers or those that dropped out"..........I just pointed out a film was made about one.In fact a documentary was also made about her Now if you had said you don't remember losers or people who have dropped out then I couldn't disagree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Your original statement Rob was "no-one remembers the losers or those that dropped out"..........I just pointed out a film was made about one.In fact a documentary was also made about her Now if you had said you don't remember losers or people who have dropped out then I couldn't disagree I'd say that wins the Gold Medal for Pedantry. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I'd say that wins the Gold Medal for Pedantry. I was after that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I'd say that wins the Gold Medal for Pedantry. But nobody remembers who won the silver medal for pedantry! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 But nobody remembers who won the silver medal for pedantry! TBF, it'd probably be Lucifer Sam!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I was after that I can think of a few others you could win too 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 TBF, it'd probably be Lucifer Sam!! No I've been banned for 10 months. So sadly no-one will remember me. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I can think of a few others you could win too Who rattled your cage? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I can think of a few others you could win too He wouldn't get anywhere near SCB in the Olympic Moaning though All the best Rob 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 So why promises a statement this week or next (last week or this week) if he couldn't? And the 45 days is the current rules, the rules that are relevant say "reasonable time" so they could take another few weeks in theory. A 'reasonable time' applies to both then presumably?! Either way I doubt DW will issue a statement until he gets the FIM's 'full reasoning', either in a public announcement of their adjudication or in a prior notice to Darcy. Nice to see the '45 days' now being referred to as irrelevant - shame you didn't step in earlier in the thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 A 'reasonable time' applies to both then presumably?! Either way I doubt DW will issue a statement until he gets the FIM's 'full reasoning', either in a public announcement of their adjudication or in a prior notice to Darcy. Nice to see the '45 days' now being referred to as irrelevant - shame you didn't step in earlier in the thread. But remember, they are not Darcy Ward/Poole haters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) No I've been banned for 10 months. So sadly no-one will remember me. All the best Rob Banned from where? It can't be the BSF as your Posts seem to be appearing. Or is this jest in regard to Darcy Ward, the FIM, etc? Edited March 14, 2015 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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