SteveLyric2 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 In sport it does seem the more bankable the name the more mitigation, leniency etc. is talked about - I wasn't surprised to turn my telly on last nite and see one Suarez playing for Barcelona despite a worldwide ban for biting an opponent and being treated like a hero. I despair sometimes Part of the deal was that he took out the Spanish 'Denplan' insurance - for all opponents!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyham Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Because the person concerned has a recognisable and well- known name in a sport is of no relevance what so ever, at this moment in time. It is the actions taken which caused a result to take place, and found to be beyond the allotted rules of the governing body, and should be treated as such. 1+1 still add up to 2 and 2+2 still make 4 no matter who does the maths. So the resulting outcome should still be the same. You cannot make allowances for a professor doing the maths, to a student doing the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 It amazes me that had he drove in any country but the UK, Luxembourg or Malta with that amount he'd be banned from driving for many months, generally a year minimum - yet we're talking about him only getting a 30 day ban! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Haven't you got that wrong going by the above amounts: 0.2 promille = 10mg/litre therefore Darcy's 0.5 promille = 25mg/litre and 0.3 promille = 15mg/litre? Yes I did hsve it wrong. Looks like darcy was under uk drink drive limit (37mcg for breath test), but closer to the limit than to zero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Yes I did hsve it wrong. Looks like darcy was under uk drink drive limit (37mcg for breath test), but closer to the limit than to zero. He was under the UK limit but the UK has the least strict limit in the World! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scribbler Posted August 19, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 The guy who knocked down my daughter 'only had a few' the night before. She survived - with a brain injury. Nobody should drive /ride with alcohol in their system - under any circumstances. No news is that bad that you have to drink and drive/ride. You do one or the other - not both. Darcy Ward was willing to risk his own life - and those of all the other riders he would have ridden against, had he not been caught. If he gets a minor suspension I will be angry - not because of who the rider is, but because of the potential harm he (or any other rider in the same circumstances) could have inflicted on others. 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 The guy who knocked down my daughter 'only had a few' the night before. She survived - with a brain injury. Nobody should drive /ride with alcohol in their system - under any circumstances. No news is that bad that you have to drink and drive/ride. You do one or the other - not both. Darcy Ward was willing to risk his own life - and those of all the other riders he would have ridden against, had he not been caught. If he gets a minor suspension I will be angry - not because of who the rider is, but because of the potential harm he (or any other rider in the same circumstances) could have inflicted on others. great post spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R87 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Can only agree with what's already been said. Darcy is a fantastic talent on a speedway bike (probably the best I've seen at such a young age), but he needs to get himself sorted out before he loses it all. Poole have backed him to the hilt when lots of other clubs wouldn't have, but they won't keep backing him if he keeps popping up in the headlines for the wrong reason, and Matt Ford has already gone on record as saying he has to get his life sorted out An 8 to 10 month ban for me would give him time to maybe take stock of his life and decide what he actually wants. Yes it might seem tough from his point of view, but it seems he has to learn the hard way. As for turning up at work with a hang-over, well I've never done that and I suspect if I did, then I would be sent home immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 I think it's been mentioned already, but I also checked the length of Stefan Danno's ban... it was 8 months. Would ban Darcy to around mid-April 2015.... that seems around the right punishment to me. It is a real punishment, but would leave the door open for, hopefully, a wiser Darcy Ward to return next year. All the best Rob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribbler Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 I think it's been mentioned already, but I also checked the length of Stefan Danno's ban... it was 8 months. Would ban Darcy to around mid-April 2015.... that seems around the right punishment to me. It is a real punishment, but would leave the door open for, hopefully, a wiser Darcy Ward to return next year. All the best Rob It's a slightly better punishment. It would, perhaps, give Matt Ford a bit of a problem as regards working out his team for the start of the season. Considering Ward's 'previous' perhaps his punishment should be linked with attendance at drug/alcohol awareness sessions or attendance at counselling sessions. He really does need to look at his behaviour - and 'tough love' is needed. If his managers etc. really care about him they will not let him get away with this - again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyham Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 There has been some very educational posts on this thread, and it is agreed that individuals react differently to situations of bad or distressing news,(self not excluded). But one thing is FACT, when the bottle is empty, or the cans are thrown away, the cause is still there that has to be faced and dealt with. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 (edited) There is an article in Swedish about Darcy : http://www.mvt.se/sport/speedway/?articleid=10070558 According to Tony Olsson who have been in contact with FIM, the FIM jury (there lawyers and disciplinary department) are currently working on it and will get to a decision as soon as possible. FIM are aware of that Darcy's Swedish team have a meeting tonight and Tony Olsson thinks there will be decision taken today. I think 8 months would be a bit to little since it would not have any meaning since he would do the surgery and then be back in time for next years season. He would have a ban but how much racing would he miss? Hardly any. Edited August 19, 2014 by Ghostwalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 I think it's been mentioned already, but I also checked the length of Stefan Danno's ban... it was 8 months. Would ban Darcy to around mid-April 2015.... that seems around the right punishment to me. It is a real punishment, but would leave the door open for, hopefully, a wiser Darcy Ward to return next year. Rob What is the point of an eight month ban if most of that is out of season. If it to 8 months, it starts at Latvia GP till end of season (whichever is the latest to finish - Polish, Swedish or UK) and then picks up again at the start of next season. A ban during the winter is no ban at all. Why should FIM have to rush a decision just cause a rider has a schedule meeting tonight. As long as FIM dont linger I dont think they should be pushed - after all, if the rider had passed the alcohol test he would have been riding tonight, he didnt pass the test so if he sits out another meeting so be it - his fault no one elses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 It is reported on the Pirates 2014 thread that Ward feels he is not deserving of a ban. If this is true, he has once again learned nothing. Throw the book at him if those are his thoughts. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 What is the point of an eight month ban if most of that is out of season. If it to 8 months, it starts at Latvia GP till end of season (whichever is the latest to finish - Polish, Swedish or UK) and then picks up again at the start of next season. A ban during the winter is no ban at all. Why should FIM have to rush a decision just cause a rider has a schedule meeting tonight. As long as FIM dont linger I dont think they should be pushed - after all, if the rider had passed the alcohol test he would have been riding tonight, he didnt pass the test so if he sits out another meeting so be it - his fault no one elses. I think 8 months is sufficient and also it is the precedent set with Stefan Danno. It is a punishment - it rules out any chance of him finishiing in top 8 this year, because I doubt if the FIM/BSI would give a 2015 wildcard to a banned rider. And if Darcy is not in the 2015 GP series, I can't see Monster backing him next season. So he loses the GP and a major sponsor. At the same time, it would allow him to do what he does best from mid-next-April - riding a speedway bike. All the best Rob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 (edited) I think 8 months is sufficient and also it is the precedent set with Stefan Danno. It is a punishment - it rules out any chance of him finishiing in top 8 this year, because I doubt if the FIM/BSI would give a 2015 wildcard to a banned rider. And if Darcy is not in the 2015 GP series, I can't see Monster backing him next season. So he loses the GP and a major sponsor. At the same time, it would allow him to do what he does best from mid-next-April - riding a speedway bike. All the best Rob Out of interest Rob what time of year did Danno's suspension start? EDIT just found it. http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Speedway%3A+GP+stunner+for+Danno.-a068355819 Commited the offence in September, He was banned in December meaning he could not race until the following August, so effectively nearly a whole season Edited August 19, 2014 by Star Lady 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Out of interest Rob what time of year did Danno's suspension start? From late September to late May... he failed the breath test before the final GP of 2000. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 I read somewhere today that Ward whilst sorry does not see why he should either be fined or banned. If true it shows a complete denial of any responsibility or culpability for his actions. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 From late September to late May... he failed the breath test before the final GP of 2000. All the best Rob Not what the link says, unless of course Danno was suspended pending the hearing and the ban started from then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Not what the link says, unless of course Danno was suspended pending the hearing and the ban started from then. I think he was initially suspended from riding for 30 days, before the proper hearing was heard. It was late May 2001 when he was allowed to ride again, though, so it was 8 months after the offence. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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