BWitcher Posted February 14, 2015 Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 Think thats a whoooosh there ... I stupidly tried to use humour Oops Yep, hands up, you whooshed me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Think thats a whoooosh there ... I stupidly tried to use humour Best leave it to janette krankie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 I never said he would get a 4 year ban. I was only making a statement at what others where saying on this thread. If he gets the 2 year he should get he can still come back and make a statement again on the track, I hope he learns to keep his mouth shut and also to behave as a true gentleman. He will still be young eneough in 2 years time, that is if he has the heart in the sport, because of what I saw from him for the better part of last season, that spark had burnt out and he looked totally bored and couldn't care less if he was riding or not. He needs a rocket up his backside to get him to sort his life out. He should also find some role model to help him with the problems he has. The ones that give him advise now are doing him no favours at all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Life's to short Jacues. I think I probably know so u ain't gotta bother anyways :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike1944 Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 On his return will Poole arrange a testimonial meeting for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Nick Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 On his return will Poole arrange a testimonial meeting for him?What a ridiculous statement. It will be a benefit meeting, obviously 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Still good enough to beat Janowski You are wittering on that if Ward were out of the sport for 4 years (which he won't be unless by choice) it would be impossible for him to return. Sam Ermolenko was out for longer, and far far older. Yet still was able to rock up and beat Janowski. Merely pointing out you're talking rubbish. penhall had 4 years out of the sport, came back to ride in the peter collins farewell meeting and beat pc 3-0 in times only a couple of seconds slower thsn the times a world class field were doing.in a different sport, jeff wilson had 10 years away fom cricket, returned and played well enough to regain his place in the black caps. so darcy could no doubt do the same, so long as it wasnt four years spent boozing. but in reality he should be back racing later this year or worst case beginning of 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 penhall had 4 years out of the sport, came back to ride in the peter collins farewell meeting and beat pc 3-0 in times only a couple of seconds slower thsn the times a world class field were doing. in a different sport, jeff wilson had 10 years away fom cricket, returned and played well enough to regain his place in the black caps. so darcy could no doubt do the same, so long as it wasnt four years spent boozing. but in reality he should be back racing later this year or worst case beginning of 2016. Was at that meeting, remember it well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
severnsider Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 in a different sport, jeff wilson had 10 years away fom cricket, returned and played well enough to regain his place in the black caps. Wilson was a very talented guy with caps and tries for the All Blacks too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Wilson was a very talented guy with caps and tries for the All Blacks tooyep, that's why he had the 10 year break from cricket! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) penhall had 4 years out of the sport, came back to ride in the peter collins farewell meeting and beat pc 3-0 in times only a couple of seconds slower thsn the times a world class field were doing. in a different sport, jeff wilson had 10 years away fom cricket, returned and played well enough to regain his place in the black caps. so darcy could no doubt do the same, so long as it wasnt four years spent boozing. but in reality he should be back racing later this year or worst case beginning of 2016. Sam's times weren't even couple of seconds slower tbh. All that he was lacking really was gating, until his final race when he gated and stuffed Lindgren and Ward out wide. They both got by but he stayed right behind them as they had a cracking battle, Ward making a mistake on turn 2 lap 3 and Sam passed him up the inside. Ward did throttle of a tad on the final lap, but the pass had already been made so he may or may not have got by. Lindgren only won by a short distance.. and this wasn't an 'exhibition race'. Apparently Holder enjoyed ribbing Ward in the pits about being beaten by an old man. Miskowiak was the 4th man in the race, he might have finished by now. Earlier he'd beat Janowski by some distance. As you say the conversation is silly anyway as he won't under any circumstances be banned for 4 years. Edited February 15, 2015 by BWitcher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Start Tart Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 Obviously English is not my first language, so please excuse my spelling and grammar. The longer this fiasco drags on, the more concerned I am that the FIM will give the lad an 18 month minimum ban. If so, I am considering offering him the opportunity of staying with me for the duration. He can bring his bottle of vodka and I will treat him very special and make sure he does not get into any more trouble. The only problem could be that after spending this time with me, Darcy may feel that trekking around Europe to ride a speedway bike is far too hum-drum and pack it in, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 in a different sport, jeff wilson had 10 years away fom cricket, returned and played well enough to regain his place in the black caps. I'm assuming he was still playing some sort of cricket throughout, but John Traicos had an amazing 23 years gap between playing his first test match for South Africa, and his second when Zimbabwe were granted test status. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500cc Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 I'm assuming he was still playing some sort of cricket throughout, but John Traicos had an amazing 23 years gap between playing his first test match for South Africa, and his second when Zimbabwe were granted test status. Can't match that length, but I always found the Ian Callaghan story interesting. Made his England debut just weeks before the 1966 World Cup. Then played in the Group victory over France. Then waited 11 years to get his 3rd cap when Ron Greenwood tried to build a team of Liverpool players plus the recently departed to Hamburg, Kevin Keegan. That was a short wait compared to receiving his World Cup Winners Medal nearly 43 years after the success. Winning his 4th and final cap in 1977, that means he is the most recent World Cup Winner to play for England. Will he ever lose that particular record? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 One of the FIM-lawyers who were part of the disciplinary committee at Darcy's hearing have made an interview with a Swedish news paper. Obviously he doesn't say anything specific about this case and most of what he says he things that we already knew. Things such as that it takes over two weeks from the hearing until the decision is made, isn't something ununsual but rather common since it is very important to get the verdict phrased in such a way that it is clear why the committee decided to rule in the way that they did and etc. His reply to th question regarding why the hearing wasn't held until 5 months after the offence, he says that he can't judge why it took 5 months but that it could be due many different things such as different arguments from the involved, previous investigation and etc, No decision have been taken yet but as soon as a decision is taken it will be announced. He then says that (like we already knew) that cases are not delayed for the sake of the delay itself. That it might seem like it is just to make the decision straight away but these cases that have to penetrated and analysed in a proper way so that the FIM can make a legitimate decision. He also says that its unfortunate that the involved parties and in this case mainly the rider, have not been made clear on how things work. http://mvt.se/sport/speedway/datum-om-wards-besked-oklart-10727231.aspx So like I wrote above, most things seems to be pretty obvious and much of it are stuff we already knew/suspected. It also seems that for some reason Darcy haven't been informed properly for some reason and as we have suspected, the delayed are likely due to claims/arguments by Darcy's camp while they pretend it is FIM who are delaying it without a reason. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 What this interview basically reveals is what we have suspected all along. The Ward camp has been playing games in the media, purely for sympathy. There is absolutely no way that Ward will not have been clearly briefed by his legal team how proceedings were going to work. If we can discover it on the internet, then you can be sure his legal team will have, regardless of whether or not the FIM explained it to him (which they no doubt have as well). Basically, Ward/Middlo/Ford etc.. well and truly busted. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 What this interview basically reveals is what we have suspected all along. The Ward camp has been playing games in the media, purely for sympathy. There is absolutely no way that Ward will not have been clearly briefed by his legal team how proceedings were going to work. If we can discover it on the internet, then you can be sure his legal team will have, regardless of whether or not the FIM explained it to him (which they no doubt have as well). Basically, Ward/Middlo/Ford etc.. well and truly busted. At least I feel vindicated for not believing a word of it. You can guarentee disciples of the Ward camp, still won't accept it 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 What the heck is a member of the judiciary committee doing talking to the media before a decision has been reached. Aside from what we may or may not think about Ward and his actions - this is surely out of order for the governing body!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 What the heck is a member of the judiciary committee doing talking to the media before a decision has been reached. Aside from what we may or may not think about Ward and his actions - this is surely out of order for the governing body!! It didn't take long. If you'd bother to read, which is something that a number of Ward's lackeys might wish to try, you would discover that he hadn't discussed any of the specifics of the case, merely confirmed how these cases worked. As the article says (using Google translator) "Nilsson was clear that he did not want to comment anything about the particular case ." Just because it doesn't fit in with the outright LIES that the Ward camp has been spreading, doesn't make it wrong. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewer Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Tbf to skidder I agree that imo he or anyone else shouldn't be saying anything in relation to the caae and I would include members of any of wards teams/camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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