Arson fire Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) And neither do you have any evidence that he wasn't told that. As I have said in answer to Arson, why would he put himself in the situation where he could look foolish if they didn't deliver the verdict in 7 days. He could not gain by saying it, only open himself to ridicule when it didn't happen. And the FIM as expected have done that. Total bollocks mate, just something said to try and devalue what i am saying. Having been there and done it, could be advantages in discussions but not on the BSF. How in what way can my views be pro BSPA when they are not involved, FFS. I do have a strong dislike of both the FIM and FIFA. Would you want to defend either of them on their image and processes. Before this case I guess that most people would share my view, and agree that neither were fit for purpose. But then came along Darcy pissed and drunk at the GP. im not devaluing what you're saying, i am devaluing what you are saying darcy is saying You made the comparison between them bspa and fim...not me.... Darcy is obviously not the sharpest tool in the box, so i wouldnt take as gospel what he says, no matter what counter argument you have( why would he say it etc).... He said it, but that dont mean its true does it? people say all sorts of things that arnt true or are over egged, all the time. Edited February 10, 2015 by Arson fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 Muddlo wasn't there so he wouldn't know. What Darcy actually said on twitter was "next week they will make a call". That can be interpreted in a variety of different ways. The truth is none of us really know what was said . After Darcy's excuse about not rehydrating properly which has absolutely nothing to do with it one has conclude that he is not the most reliable source of information. Slightly worrying is that darcy seemed to think he would get a verdict on the day. You would have thought his legal team should have at least set his expectations appropriately at that stage. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 im not devaluing what you're saying, i am devaluing what you are saying darcy is saying You made the comparison between them bspa and fim...not me.... Darcy is obviously not the sharpest tool in the box, so i wouldnt take as gospel what he says, no matter what counter argument you have( why would he say it etc).... He said it, but that dont mean its true does it? people say all sorts of things that arnt true or are over egged, all the time. Once gain, Why would he say it, what did he have to gain. I was NOT being pro BSPA in the comparison, but when such a criticised organisation has to put up with so much criticism, why not the FIM with outdated and non urgent procedures/responses to their riders. You and others imply 'not fit for purpose' with the BSPA, but the better example of that staying surely is the FIM. Folks on here have intimated Castagnia and FIM 'jaunts' early in this thread, but to read comments now, they seem to have been changed to be paragons of virtue. I might be tempted to vote for them in the General Election. Even Phil Rising has tried to explain things for others, and still had to stand up and defend himself. Just a hanging thread which deserved a fair discussion. I am no hater or lover of Darcy, he has a tremendous talent with a shocking attitude, but comments and criticism has hardly been balanced or fair. Let's hope the much awaited FIM verdict is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike1944 Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 A few more days less to go now as the 45 days count down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 Thats my opinion. We are all entitled to one.. just some are more stupid than others. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Totally different context. Edinburgh and Richie might have personal reason to gain for the stance they took/said. Darcy on the other hand just puts his neck on the line if and when the FIM don't make a decision in 7 days. Even Darcy would know the rules with the 45 period. He had nothing to gain by saying it. Of course he had something to gain, and the deluded folk like yourself are showing exactly why. The moment Darcy made his tweet, several of us commented on here what would happen. The 7 days would elapse without a decision (obviously) and the Ward camp could once again play the sympathy card. It's only sycophants and quite frankly downright fools who fall for it. I'll let you decide which camp you fall into. Once gain, Why would he say it, what did he have to gain. Sympathy again. Which he is getting from his lackeys. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 You just have to see how much sympathy he got on his twitter feed when he advised them there wasnt going to be a same day decision. That said I wonder whether ward simply mis-understood something that was said about the timing of the decision? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 And neither do you have any evidence that het And neither do you have any evidence that he wasn't told that. If you read my post again what I said was none of us really know what was actually said. It is you that keep persuing the idea that Darcy must be correct in saying there would be a decision in 7 days, even though that was not actually what he said on Twitter. As I have said in answer to Arson, why would he put himself in the situation where he could look foolish if they didn't deliver the verdict in 7 days. He could not gain by saying it, only open himself to ridicule when it didn't happen. When had Darcy ever said or done anything off-track when he didn't open himself to ridicule? Leaving aside his indiscretions in the rape case, the drug related episode in Australa, and the mysterious incident in the pub with Muddlo, his comments in this matter alone expose him to ridicule. First is the excuse that he didn't re-hydrate properly which would have absolutely nothing to do with sobering up, then we have the excuse that he had just heard that his parents had broken up but it turns out he knew that at least a couple of weeks before, and so it goes on. It's more than mere coincidence that controversy follows him around. Look at Darcy and look at Tai Woffinden, another world class rider of the same age. Darcy's immaturity stands out like sore thumb. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Muddlo wasn't there so he wouldn't know. What Darcy actually said on twitter was "next week they will make a call". That can be interpreted in a variety of different ways. The truth is none of us really know what was said . After Darcy's excuse about not rehydrating properly which has absolutely nothing to do with it one has conclude that he is not the most reliable source of information. Maybe that is what they said. Maybe that is what they did. Maybe they just haven't told Darcy. Maybe they are getting out the monks and parchment in order to engrave the written verdict before sending it out. maybe... maybe... maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Some people on here really play the dumb card. I have only seen one poster who has said Darcy should get 2 years. Most people are saying a year but the 'Darcy love in crew' on here for some reason keep going on about everybody hanging him out to dry and saying he was drunk. If yet to see a post mentioning him being drunk unless its tongue in cheek. All people want is a fair ban to fit what he did but the usual band of sycophants on here like to make up stuff. Same as Darcy and Middlo on twitter. They are either not very clever(which to be fair is believable) mis advised on procedures , or shock horror do you think they might do it for some sympathy! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 They have up to 45 days to give him an answer so haven't done anything wrong. Hearing was only last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Muddlo wasn't there so he wouldn't know. Even if Muddlo was there, he probably wouldn't know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Roll on 23 March..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 You just have to see how much sympathy he got on his twitter feed when he advised them there wasnt going to be a same day decision. That said I wonder whether ward simply mis-understood something that was said about the timing of the decision? You can understand Ward misunderstanding but his legal team were there I think I read, so you would assume they didn't misunderstand, or have badly advised Ward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizzAssStar Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Once gain, Why would he say it, what did he have to gain. Quite simple......... an attempt to further discredit the other side in the eye of the public? Obviously some are easily "taken-in" !!! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Of course he had something to gain, and the deluded folk like yourself are showing exactly why. The moment Darcy made his tweet, several of us commented on here what would happen. The 7 days would elapse without a decision (obviously) and the Ward camp could once again play the sympathy card. It's only sycophants and quite frankly downright fools who fall for it. I'll let you decide which camp you fall into. Sympathy again. Which he is getting from his lackeys. BW - I am no Ward lackey. I have stated my point of view before - 12 Month Ban and 12 Month Ban suspended for two years as long as there are no further 'incidents'. That is my view only. Tsunami probably won't agree with me - he is entitled to disagree - that is what debate is about. Tsunami is right when he says that some of the comments on here are over the top - that is why I 'Liked' his Posts. It has nothing to do with sycophancy - it is only a different point of view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 You can understand Ward misunderstanding but his legal team were there I think I read, so you would assume they didn't misunderstand, or have badly advised Ward. Was probably an off-duty unofficial solicitor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 You can understand Ward misunderstanding but his legal team were there I think I read, so you would assume they didn't misunderstand, or have badly advised Ward. perhaps he misunderstood his legal team at the end of the hearing. Lawyer says "Darcy we expect a verdict within fortyfive days" Darcy hears "Darcy we expect a verdict within four to five days" 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 perhaps he misunderstood his legal team at the end of the hearing. Lawyer says "Darcy we expect a verdict within fortyfive days" Darcy hears "Darcy we expect a verdict within four to five days" To which Neil Fiddlesnitch tells the world to expect an answer within a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Oh Dear :- Illustrious Sycophants Lackeys Deluded folk Downright fools Diddleswitch Stupid Dumb card Fiddlesnitch Darcy Love Crew Befuddled Alex Utter ignorance. .....and just because someone has a different point of view. Who said the art of debate is dead. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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