salty Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Lets not forget that nobody condones his actions not even Middlo, but untill the FIM grow a pair and start taking the sport more professionally and start doing as i suggest, untill then you will not have complete transparency, and thats what you i and everybody else would want... Starting in March...And if you or anybody else do not agree with that then you shouldn't be Speedway fans... Maybe the FIM will grow a pair and ban Ward for 2 years. Sending out a clear message that alcohol and Speedway don't mix. Surely anyone who doesn't agree can't call themselves a true Speedway fan. Would have far more effect than tinkering with the testing. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Maybe the FIM will grow a pair and ban Ward for 2 years. Sending out a clear message that alcohol and Speedway don't mix. Surely anyone who doesn't agree can't call themselves a true Speedway fan. Would have far more effect than tinkering with the testing. What the FIM do on this occasion is up to them, but any misdemeanours can all be stopped and the sport made completely Transparant, Starting in March.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) What the FIM do on this occasion is up to them, but any misdemeanours can all be stopped and the sport made completely Transparant, Starting in March.. So you agree a 2 year ban for Ward then? Surely as you are so keen to root out these type of misdemeanours you can agree that an example needs to be made? Edited February 8, 2015 by salty 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 What the FIM do on this occasion is up to them, but any misdemeanours can all be stopped and the sport made completely Transparant, Starting in March.. You got it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wackie Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) Lets not forget that nobody condones his actions not even Middlo, but untill the FIM grow a pair and start taking the sport more professionally and start doing as i suggest, untill then you will not have complete transparency, and thats what you i and everybody else would want... Starting in March...And if you or anybody else do not agree with that then you shouldn't be Speedway fans... So is this now all the FIM's fault? Are you trying to say if they'd have had all rider tests at GP's last year Ward wouldn't have gone out on the lash the night before a GP? Edited February 9, 2015 by Wackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 So is this now all the FIM's fault? Are you trying to say if they'd have had all rider tests at GP's last year Ward wouldn't have gone out on the lash the night before a GP? no, just that he would have hydrated better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 How many times have other riders done it and not been caught ? An ALL TEST is the only way to ensure complete Transparency.. And any test be performed by a BONIFIED FIM official. Backed up by a BONIFIED FIM official, and or the Clerk of the course and or the Referee. Im all for it, and anybody who who wants Transparency in our sport will want it.why do you want it now though? Why wernt you calling for it last year ir the year before??... Simple answer is ya little darling got caught and now are you are trying to suggest its rife!! I agree it should be done across the board as should health checks, but it doesnt deflect away from Ward, he got caught... Thats nobodys fault but his, not yours, not the FIM, not other riders. To keeping banging on about the FIM is ludicrous and nothing to do with his stupidity, lets face it had he rode and caused an accident and was then tested.... It wouldnt just be the FIM involved your Honour. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Not hard to work out mate. It would be a massive deterant allround, if you random test then you will still get an airhead take a chance and have one to many, Darcy Ward? Niamh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 So you agree a 2 year ban for Ward then? Surely as you are so keen to root out these type of misdemeanours you can agree that an example needs to be made? You got it... Fair play to you Starry. A true Speedway fan putting the sport before their individual club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) why do you want it now though? Why wernt you calling for it last year ir the year before??... Simple answer is ya little darling got caught and now are you are trying to suggest its rife!! I agree it should be done across the board as should health checks, but it doesnt deflect away from Ward, he got caught... Thats nobodys fault but his, not yours, not the FIM, not other riders. To keeping banging on about the FIM is ludicrous and nothing to do with his stupidity, lets face it had he rode and caused an accident and was then tested.... It wouldnt just be the FIM involved your Honour. I wonder if it the case of, if I say it enough, all the talk of there being issues with the test will come true and my beloved Darcy will get off, after all he takes everything that comes from Poole as gospel, bless him! As for Ward, I didn't like him before, I like him even less now. The guy is a cretin. Nothing less than a two year ban would be enough in my eyes. I'd also argue that we would miss him if we didn't see him again. The Speedway world didn't stop last season because darling Darcy wasn't in it..it won't stop now Edited February 9, 2015 by Jacques 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Fair play to you Starry. A true Speedway fan putting the sport before their individual club. You might be being sarchastic, but pretty sure he wasn't saying he wanted a 2 year ban for Ward.. he's not known for reading things correctly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wackie Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 no, just that he would have hydrated better Ah yes, that lame excuse, more bad advice from someone in the Ward camp. Drinking lots of fluids after his lash up may have helped his hangover, but it won't have helped clearing the alcohol from his system. I really do think that Ward's not the brightest of sparks, but the crap advice he's being given behind the scenes has done him more harm than good in this and other cases. First of all we heard there were extenuating circumstances for him drinking the night before a GP, then the "I didn't hydrate enough" bullsh!t, then the queries with the testing procedures. If he'd of held his hands up first off and admitted he'd cocked up, it's possible his punishment would have been known by now, he could have moved on and we wouldn't have to deal with Middleditch spouting more rubbish and digging a deeper whole with every comment he makes. I wonder if it the case of, if I say it enough, all the talk of there being issues with the test will come true and my beloved Darcy will get off, after all he takes everything that comes from Poole as gospel, bless him! As for Ward, I didn't like him before, I like him even less now. The guy is a cretin. Nothing less than a two year ban would be enough in my eyes. I'd also argue that I wouldn't miss him if we didn't see him again. The Speedway world didn't stop last season because darling Darcy wasn't in it..it won't stop now You're quite right Jacques. There's been better riders the sport has been cruely robbed of - Jan O, Gundersen, Jonsson - it survived, as did the clubs they rode for. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) I can't be bothered to revisit all the pages on this thread so don't know if this has been mentioned? I've been reading about an official protest to the FIM being made by the American Motorcycle Association in relation to the time it has taken to announce the punishment of AMA Supercross rider James Stewart Jr., on the basis of decisions being made 'in a timely fashion'!!? April 2014 - Stewart was discovered to have taken amphetimines (an FIM/WADA banned substance - unlike alcohol). June 2014 - Stewart was given a provisional suspension from all racing. October 2014 - The FIM hearing took place in Geneva. December 2014 - The decision was announced and confirmed to the rider 3 weeks before the start of the new Supercross season (16 months back-dated to April 2014 - allowing the rider to race again in August 2015). The rider has/had 21 days to appeal - which I don't believe he did, as he had already admitted it. It was his first offence. I'll let others comment on whether they believe there are any differences or parallels with the Ward case - I'm sure there will be plenty!! Edited February 9, 2015 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) Simple answer is ya little darling got caught and now are you are trying to suggest its rife!! Is it NOT? Edited February 9, 2015 by pugwash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) You're quite right Jacques. There's been better riders the sport has been cruely robbed of - Jan O, Gundersen, Jonsson - it survived, as did the clubs they rode for. Absolutely, Wackie. Darcy's "misfortune" and possible loss to speedway hardly rates alongside the loss of Tom Farndon, Peter Craven, Tommy Janssen, Vic Harding, Lee Richardson and many many others sadly. Edited February 9, 2015 by norbold 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Absolutely, Wackie. Darcy's "misfortune" and possible loss to speedway hardly rates alongside the loss of Tom Farndon, Peter Craven, Tommy Janssen, Vic Harding, Lee Richardson and many many others sadly. Agree. + those on the disabled list. Ceggy could have been anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Is it NOT? is it then?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Im still trying to work out what this bonified is starman keeps talking about! bona fide i could understand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 So is this now all the FIM's fault? Are you trying to say if they'd have had all rider tests at GP's last year Ward wouldn't have gone out on the lash the night before a GP? Far be it for me to try to defend Ward - but - perhaps if Testing was compulsory for ALL Riders he may not have. We will never know the answer to that one. For me, a two year Ban with one year suspended would be about right. It would start from the beginning of the 2015 Season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 I can't be bothered to revisit all the pages on this thread so don't know if this has been mentioned? I've been reading about an official protest to the FIM being made by the American Motorcycle Association in relation to the time it has taken to announce the punishment of AMA Supercross rider James Stewart Jr., on the basis of decisions being made 'in a timely fashion'!!? April 2014 - Stewart was discovered to have taken amphetimines (an FIM/WADA banned substance - unlike alcohol). June 2014 - Stewart was given a provisional suspension from all racing. October 2014 - The FIM hearing took place in Geneva. December 2014 - The decision was announced and confirmed to the rider 3 weeks before the start of the new Supercross season (16 months back-dated to April 2014 - allowing the rider to race again in August 2015). The rider has/had 21 days to appeal - which I don't believe he did, as he had already admitted it. It was his first offence. I'll let others comment on whether they believe there are any differences or parallels with the Ward case - I'm sure there will be plenty!! You know full well this has been mentioned numerous times on this thread but it was blatantly ignored by the Ward sycophants because it didn't tie in with the "Poor old Darcy is being picked on because he's Poole" crap we've been subjected too. Now all of a sudden because you think you might be able to use this case to come up with yet another excuse for Darcy you bring it up... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.