The White Knight Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Not hard to work out mate. It would be a massive deterant allround, if you random test then you will still get an airhead take a chance and have one to many, you do an ALL TEST then everyone will tow the line. The FIM should send out a memo to ALL the riders in the series stating that they will be tested the day of a GP round at a certain time, including the rerserves. If they don't like it, they don't ride. If You want transparancy in our sport thats the only way forward. Quite simple really. Random test in the domestic leagues as done, unanounced, but the GP's should be an ALL TEST. See - you do talk sense sometimes. For what it is worth, in the main - I agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Harsh words. Anyone can see that what Darcy is being put through is akin to "mental torture", which is clearly "disgraceful". It really is "dreadful", what with him having to pay to travel to Geneva for the hearing. what clearly would have been dreadful would have been if he'd not been randomly picked for a breath test and he'd rode in the GP which without doubt he would have done - imagine if someone had been hurt in a crash Ward was involved in had he rode ?? I,m sorry but people are forgetting what could have happened had he rode . Paying an air fare and being kept in the dark as to his outcome is a small price to pay . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Not hard to work out mate. It would be a massive deterant allround, if you random test then you will still get an airhead take a chance and have one to many, you do an ALL TEST then everyone will tow the line. The FIM should send out a memo to ALL the riders in the series stating that they will be tested the day of a GP round at a certain time, including the rerserves. If they don't like it, they don't ride. If You want transparancy in our sport thats the only way forward. Quite simple really. Random test in the domestic leagues as done, unanounced, but the GP's should be an ALL TEST. Your post makes a lot of sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Your post makes a lot of sense Thank you, i have said this before though. See - you do talk sense sometimes. For what it is worth, in the main - I agree with you. Thank you, please see above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Studland Bee Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 I bet Ned Payne the speedway correspondent of the Bournemouth Echo has a right laugh dealing with Middleditch; the quote: PIRATES team boss Neil Middleditch says troubled star Darcy Ward could “take a couple of years out” of speedway – depending on his hearing result. At least that bit is accurate. I think Matt Ford should shut Middleditch up, he is making a complete fool of himself and not helping Darcy by his negativity towards the FIM. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 I'd be grateful if you could explain why testing everyone at every round would be better than following the procedures that other sports do and select two or three people at random to be tested , also I would like you to point out any posts on this thread where I've "Jumped on his case " Actually I don't see what the problems is with testing all riders? BTCC have decided to introduce mandatory pre-race alcohol breath-tests for all drivers and officials so why can't speedway follow suite? Whilst random breath-testing does happen on occasion at various motor sport events, the BTCC is the first championship to mandate the zero-tolerance limit and back this up with compulsory testing each day at each event," said series director Alan Gow. "This was a bit of a personal crusade for me, as I have long thought that the sport does not carry out enough alcohol testing."Gow said all drivers and officials backed the stance. http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/05/28/uk-motor-racing-alcohol-idUKKBN0E80X320140528 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Actually I don't see what the problems is with testing all riders? BTCC have decided to introduce mandatory pre-race alcohol breath-tests for all drivers and officials so why can't speedway follow suite? http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/05/28/uk-motor-racing-alcohol-idUKKBN0E80X320140528 There you go, i don't know where you found that, but its spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 what clearly would have been dreadful would have been if he'd not been randomly picked for a breath test and he'd rode in the GP which without doubt he would have done - imagine if someone had been hurt in a crash Ward was involved in had he rode ?? I,m sorry but people are forgetting what could have happened had he rode . Paying an air fare and being kept in the dark as to his outcome is a small price to pay . Totally agree. I was mocking Middlo's latest diatribe. Given his oft mentioned role as Darcy's "surrogate father", is it possible the FIM will take a dim view of his witterings and accusations in all forms of media? Hard to see a "lesson being learnt" when someone so close to the rider is unable to grasp the gravity of the riders misdemeanour. A more thoughtful and considered response from someone in Middlo's position might have used the words support and rehab, rather than poor kid and disgrace. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) I do not remember anyone posting here that they are against all riders being tested for alcohol before each GP. Just a couple of extra off duty Coppers could get through them in no time. But I fail to see what that has to do with the current situation regarding Darcy Ward. Presumably he would have failed the same test, in just the same way. Ok he may have had a couple more chums with him on the plane to Geneva if others 'got through" withitout being picked up on the random test. But Darcy would still be on the dock this time. And who knows he may have found himself there before had universal testing been done in the past. Anyone's bet isn't it? Edited February 8, 2015 by Grand Central Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 I don't think anyone is against mandatory breathe testing of all riders. But what the hell does that have to do with Darcy and the situation he now find himself in? He would have still be caught. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Not hard to work out mate. It would be a massive deterant allround, if you random test then you will still get an airhead take a chance and have one to many, you do an ALL TEST then everyone will tow the line. The FIM should send out a memo to ALL the riders in the series stating that they will be tested the day of a GP round at a certain time, including the reserves. If they don't like it, they don't ride. If You want transparancy in our sport thats the only way forward. Quite simple really. Random test in the domestic leagues as done, unanounced, but the GP's should be an ALL TEST. So you're tarring all riders together because one little scroat cant behave like a professional?? How many times has he done it and not been caught?? Darcy has issues and needs to sort them, them rise to the level of others, they shouldnt have to be dragged down to his level, because of his mistakes!!. Transparency my arse!!. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 I don't think anyone is against mandatory breathe testing of all riders. But what the hell does that have to do with Darcy and the situation he now find himself in? He would have still be caught. I think that Darcy would have passed his breathe test...else he wouldn't have had the ability to take and fail a breath test... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wackie Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 So Middleditch is quoted as saying “Although he has done wrong and deserves to be punished" So what is all of this coming out from the establishment about faulty equipment / procedures? Because if there were faults then regardless of whether or not Ward drunk to much, if it can't be accurately measured or ascertained (not entirely sure how) then he has to be found not guilty and cleared. So exactly why should he be punished for that Mr. Middleditch? I'm actually pretty unimpressed by how the speedway world is handling this, or to be more accurate the British speedway establishments. I suspect the FIM are not exactly enamoured either. Ward deserves to be treated fairly. He also doesn't deserve to be thrown under a bus. I actually think he comes out of this affair (post alleged offence) so far with some credit, something I wouldn't say for him in the past. Regardless of the result he would be well advised to continue with this approach. Not so sure about others who haven't really helped him publicly, and have actually resulted in greater negativity towards him than would have otherwise been the case. I bet Ned Payne the speedway correspondent of the Bournemouth Echo has a right laugh dealing with Middleditch; the quote: PIRATES team boss Neil Middleditch says troubled star Darcy Ward could “take a couple of years out” of speedway – depending on his hearing result. At least that bit is accurate. I think Matt Ford should shut Middleditch up, he is making a complete fool of himself and not helping Darcy by his negativity towards the FIM. I personally think the best thing Ward could do whenever this is all over and any punishment has been served is wipe the slate clean and move on. Whilst the Poole fans may love him, the off track support and advice he's been getting down there have done him no favours. Makes you wonder if he'd been under the wing of Buster at KL he'd have got into all the trouble he has whilst at Poole. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) So you're tarring all riders together because one little scroat cant behave like a professional?? How many times has he done it and not been caught?? Transparency my arse!!. How many times have other riders done it and not been caught ? An ALL TEST is the only way to ensure complete Transparency.. And any test be performed by a BONIFIED FIM official. Backed up by a BONIFIED FIM official, and or the Clerk of the course and or the Referee. Im all for it, and anybody who who wants Transparency in our sport will want it. Edited February 8, 2015 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Brown Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 I think Neils spot on what he says. READ THE POST AND THE WRITE UP BEFORE YOU CRAB IT..... Let us not forget that only one thing has brought all this stress on poor little Darcy............................the fact that was drinking alcohol the day before a GP. Now we hear about dodgy tests etc, but NOTHING escapes the fact that he has admitted to drinking the day before and for that and for that alone for me he deserves massive punishment and so far its been 2 months based on the fact that there is no speedway from October to March (and he never rides in Aussie) Middleditch has continued to make himself look a complete tool in all this to be honest and has done Ward no favours IMO Simple message to Ward though, had you not been drinking the day before there would be no issue Stop blaming everyone else How many times have other riders done it and not been caught ? An ALL TEST is the only way to ensure complete Transparency.. And any test be performed by a BONIFIED FIM official. Backed up by a BONIFIED FIM official, and or the Clerk of the course and or the Referee. Im all for it, and anybody who who wants Transparency in our sport will want it. I can certainly vouch for the fact that one of his team mates couldn't stand up the night before a major individual meeting a few years ago. Maybe its systemic thing. Personally I would like to see testing of every rider, having seen one good mate paralysed and another nearly killed on track (neither related to alcohol I must add) then that reminds you how dangerous this sport is and how ANY alcohol in the blood has no part in such a dangerous sport Just my view 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) Let us not forget that only one thing has brought all this stress on poor little Darcy............................the fact that was drinking alcohol the day before a GP. Lets not forget that nobody condones his actions not even Middlo, but untill the FIM grow a pair and start taking the sport more professionally and start doing as i suggest, untill then you will not have complete transparency, and thats what you i and everybody else would want... Starting in March...And if you or anybody else do not agree with that then you shouldn't be Speedway fans... Edited February 8, 2015 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) ... a BONIFIED FIM official.... So have you got something against invertebrates? Edited February 8, 2015 by arnieg 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Brown Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Lets not forget that nobody condones his actions not even Middlo, but untill the FIM grow a pair and start taking the sport more professionally and start doing as i suggest, untill then you will not have complete transparency, and thats what you i and everybody else would want... Starting in March...And if you or anybody else do not agree with that then you shouldn't be Speedway fans... With you 100% on the last bit, having said that Middleditch would have been better keeping his mouth shut because he has consistently whined that he should be let off. He was a rider, wonder what he would have thought if this was one of his opponents ? He may not have condoned it but he has made endless excuses for him from Day 1 when he claimed it was because he had some bad news. All the way through he has made an arse of himself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 So have you got something against invertebrates? I think that question might be too complicated for Starman. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 With you 100% on the last bit, Good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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