Starman2006 Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 tbf to phil, he did say his point was regardless of whetherit was darcy or another rider. and it is ludicrous that fim take this long to decide things. So you actually agree with that then.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Who called you retarded ?middlo called someone retarded on twitter (might be Phillipsr but not certsin). You said you have no problem with middlos tweets.so, you think it is fine for middlo to publicly refer to a fan as retarded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) middlo called someone retarded on twitter (might be Phillipsr but not certsin). You said you have no problem with middlos tweets.so, you think it is fine for middlo to publicly refer to a fan as retarded? The ones put up on here i could see nothing wrong with. Edited February 4, 2015 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Who called you retarded ? I would stop digging if I were you Starman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 I would stop digging if I were you Starman. Really, whys that then. Clearly your bored to join this debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 I was the one Middlo called retarded because i pointed out that none of this would of happened if Darcy hadnt got pi****d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 So you actually agree with that then..yes. I equally think its ridiculous that you can get the death penalty in some countries for possession of a token quantity of drugs. but if you are stupid enough to do the crime, you have to live with the consequences and expect the outcome to be consistent with others who have done the same. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 I was the one Middlo called retarded because i pointed out that none of this would of happened if Darcy hadnt got pi****d Then you should take it up with Neil. But im sure you did nothing to spark a reaction !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 The ones put up on here i could see nothing wrong with.scb put it up on this thread? and even explained to you that middlo was the one who had posted it when you seemed confused? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrycuda Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) FIM Anti Doping Code Rules 2015. http://www.fim-live.com/fileadmin/user_upload/documents/CMI/2015/Anti-_Doping_Code_2015.pdf Could not find 2014 Anti Doping Code Rules. In regard to Neil Middleditch comments on twitter the following Speedway Control Bureau regulations state. 4.1.6 Riders, Officials, Employers & Employees are required to conduct themselves in an orderly and disciplined manner at all times. Proceedings or acts must not be committed that are prejudicial to the interests of any part of the ACU, SCB, BSPA or of the sport of motorcycling generally by way of any and all verbal or written communication in any format. 4.1.7 The use of foul, abusive or offensive language, profane activity or fraudulent comments by any accessible medium, e.g. Facebook, Twitter, Blogs, Texts, Webshots, Instagrams, Public Forums or any other Social Network sites etc., (this list is not exhaustive) is not permitted. Also Speedway Control Bureau regulations state regarding. BANNED SUBSTANCES (ALCOHOL, DOPING & DRUGS) 4.2 BANNED SUBSTANCES (ALCOHOL, DOPING & DRUGS) Riders and Officials are forbidden to use or to suffer from the effects of using alcohol, drugs or any doping product and testing may be carried out at any Meeting or Training Session. 4.2.1 WORLD ANTI-DOPING AGENCY (WADA) The ACU (SCB) has adopted the WADA Code (www.wada-ama.org) under the auspices of the UK Anti-Doping in Sport body (UKAD) and have granted jurisdiction in all cases arising under these WADA anti-doping rules to the UKAD’s National Anti-Doping Agency including the Case management. UKAD Rules, Policies and Codes, including up to date Prohibition Lists are available on www.ukad.org.uk/resouurces/documents. To establish the status of “over the counter" and "prescription only" medicine at the website www.globaldro.co.uk 4.2.2 SCB ALCOHOL & DRUG TESTING Pursuant to the Health & Safety at Work Act 1974 which places a duty of care for Workplace health, safety and welfare, the SCB may order Drug and/or Alcohol Testing to take place before, during or after a Meeting of any Officials or Riders. These tests (and the subsequent results and penalties) do not fall under the scope of the WADA. 4.3 TESTING PROCEDURES Riders and Officials (NB. only the Promoter who signs the Meeting Certificate will be subject to Alcohol Testing) may be balloted, nominated or selected for testing. They will be notified of a time and place to report to. They may be accompanied by one other person, both of whom will be required to confirm their identification that may involve showing an acceptable document (Passport, Photo Driving Licence, FMN Competition Licence, SCB Registration or Licence). 4.3.1 The Person(s) conducting these tests, hereinafter referred to as the Testing Official, may be either a UKAD Anti-Doping Control Officer (DCO) or an SCB licenced Official, specifically nominated by the SCB will conduct these tests in an appropriate area where any possible influence of Methanol will be negated, i.e. well away from the Pits Area. 4.3.2 Where testing is conducted by a UKAD DCO then the Officer (s) will explain the full procedure to be adopted. 4.3.3 When testing is conducted by an SCB Official the following procedures will be followed: The Rider / Official will choose a “test instrument attachment” and under the direction of the Testing Official, will supply either: a) a sufficient quantity of breath to ensure that an Alcohol Test reading can be taken; repeating as necessary until such time as sufficient breath is provided or the appropriate quantity of Saliva to enable the equipment to perform the tests. Upon completion of the Test, the Testing Official will notify the Rider or Official of the result. If the result of this, being either the 1st or 2nd Test is positive, a further test will be undertaken after a suitable delay period. If a 3rd test is necessary, this must be held as near as possible to the Meeting Start time and two independent Witnesses shall be present; the result of this 3rd Test will be final. If the result of this 3rd Test is positive (or the Rider / Official refused to undergo testing, in which case they will be charged with an additional offence that carries a mandatory fine and period of suspension) they will be disqualified from the Meeting and if this is a Team Event then no Facility nor replacements are permitted in any Programmed rides. Furthermore the Rider / Official will be subject to further testing, at their own expense prior to starting their next Meeting. Edited February 4, 2015 by Barrycuda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Most legal matters take time, and if Ward is questioning the way the test was carried out that would prolong things still further, as long as Ward receives a fair hearing then time shouldn't come into it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 scb put it up on this thread? and even explained to you that middlo was the one who had posted it when you seemed confused? The Tweets on page 3303 i can see nothing wrong with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Really, whys that then. Clearly your bored to join this debate. Not bored, just amazed at your attempted defense of the indefensible How can you claim that calling someone a name like retard, is 'professional'. It beggars belief. I Posted that (in a kind way) to try to get you to stop making a fool of yourself. THAT worked well - didn't it. :sad: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) I pointed out that the simple fact is this is all Darcy's fault no one elses if he hasnt got drunk then there wouldnt be an issue again if you think pointing that out makes me "retarded" then it says everything about you as an individual!! Edited February 4, 2015 by phillipsr 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) Not bored, just amazed at your attempted defense of the indefensible How can you claim that calling someone a name like retard, is 'professional'. It beggars belief. I Posted that (in a kind way) to try to get you to stop making a fool of yourself. THAT worked well - didn't it. :sad: Try reading my post on the poole thread then.. I pointed out that the simple fact is this is all Darcy's fault no one elses if he hasnt got drubk then there wouldnt be an issue again if you think pointing that out makes me "retarded" then it says everything about you as an individual!! No good taking swipes at me mate. As i said, if you have a problem with Neil then take it up with him. But Neil doesn't make those sort of remarks without due reason. Its really not like him. You must have said more than your telling me. Edited February 4, 2015 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 NOT taking sides here and leaving aside the fact that it is Darcy Ward on centre stage, don't see how anyone could not agree that the FIM could and should have expedited this matter far more quickly than they have and that it should not take 45 days to deliver a judgement having had the hearing ... and that would apply whether it was a World Champion in the dock on a rider at the bottom of the ladder. Next time Darcy is in trouble with the [police or speedway officialdom (and his current rate is once every 14 months since becoming a speedway rider) rather than giving him a fair hearing and time to build a case to defend himself the police or speedway officialdom should hold a hearing or court case the next day and punish him. Get it sorted ASAP? The reason time is give so you legal team can make sure everything is done correctly and is fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrycuda Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Most legal matters take time, and if Ward is questioning the way the test was carried out that would prolong things still further, as long as Ward receives a fair hearing then time shouldn't come into it. This may take longer if Darcy Ward puts in an appeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 FIM Anti Doping Code Rules 2015. http://www.fim-live.com/fileadmin/user_upload/documents/CMI/2015/Anti-_Doping_Code_2015.pdf Could not find 2014 Anti Doping Code Rules. Thats no good then, the goalposts would have been moved by now.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 No good taking swipes at me mate. As i said, if you have a problem with Neil then take it up with him. But Neil doesn't make those sort of remarks without due reason. Its really not like him. You must have said more than your telling me.its all on the twitter links that scb posted and you replied to.maybe middlo had just received some bad news and hadn't hydrated properly before tweeting? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Try reading my post on the poole thread then.. No good taking swipes at me mate. As i said, if you have a problem with Neil then take it up with him. But Neil doesn't make those sort of remarks without due reason. He should NEVER use that sort of word, whatever the provocation or reason. It is VERY offensive............ THAT is what I mean by Professional. Someone who is 'professional' would never use that word. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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