Starman2006 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 It seems the sensible way forward, I would test all 16 in the main meeting plus the two meeting reserves, no picking and choosing, fair to everyone, and most importantly it would catch the riders who choose to put theirs and their fellow riders at risk. Definitely, im all for it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Definitely, im all for it... Maybe we could start a Facebook page with people liking your suggestion, they`ll do that for just about anything these days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Maybe we could start a Facebook page with people liking your suggestion, they`ll do that for just about anything these days. Yeh I know, but the idea is very sound...and im all for it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribbler Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Yes I do. He just a young misguided lad. Who really needs to realise how good he is and what he could attain in the next 10 years... Speedway should come first and formost. He's not a young lad. He's 23 - supposedly an adult. He and Tai are a similar age - and look at what Tai has achieved. Tai also raises money for charities. Compared to Tai Darcy is selfish and wasting his life and his talents. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Nicki has a lot of fans and well as I lot of haters ..think you find a lot people would have tried to defend him . Ward bar a few Poole fans is disliked by mosti think your wrong there. I don't dislike Ward as I don't know him and his skills are second to none on a bike. The issue I have is the usual people firstly defending him for what he has done both now and in the past. These people can only see there hero and are just idiotic in there ramblings. It's blatantly obvious Darcy attracts trouble and its blatantly obvious Middlo is not the right person to have around him and his insane social media blasts are just comedy gold right up to the point of not knowing how things work! Darcy Ward should be banned until August in my opinion. Anything less is a mockery of the sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 He's not a young lad. He's 23 - supposedly an adult. He and Tai are a similar age - and look at what Tai has achieved. Tai also raises money for charities. Compared to Tai Darcy is selfish and wasting his life and his talents. Some people mature later than others. He's still a young lad.. Don't go looking for excuses. but yes, he needs to cut out this crap and get his head down. Because before he knows it he won't be a young lad anymore he 'l be 35. i think your wrong there. I don't dislike Ward as I don't know him and his skills are second to none on a bike. The issue I have is the usual people firstly defending him for what he has done both now and in the past. These people can only see there hero and are just idiotic in there ramblings. It's blatantly obvious Darcy attracts trouble and its blatantly obvious Middlo is not the right person to have around him and his insane social media blasts are just comedy gold right up to the point of not knowing how things work! Darcy Ward should be banned until August in my opinion. Anything less is a mockery of the sport Your opinion stands for nothing.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Yes I do. He just a young misguided lad. Who really needs to realise how good he is and what he could attain in the next 10 years... Speedway should come first and formost. who would you say he has been misguided by? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 who would you say he has been misguided by? Himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 i think your wrong there. I don't dislike Ward as I don't know him and his skills are second to none on a bike. The issue I have is the usual people firstly defending him for what he has done both now and in the past. These people can only see there hero and are just idiotic in there ramblings. It's blatantly obvious Darcy attracts trouble and its blatantly obvious Middlo is not the right person to have around him and his insane social media blasts are just comedy gold right up to the point of not knowing how things work! Darcy Ward should be banned until August in my opinion. Anything less is a mockery of the sport Not wrong at all . After what we heard at the Court case and all others things he done most dislike him . What he's done on a bike means nowt to me . Plenty of people are judged by what they do in the public spotlight you don't to be there best mate . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horneymikh Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Some people mature later than others. He's still a young lad.. Don't go looking for excuses. but yes, he needs to cut out this crap and get his head down. Because before he knows it he won't be a young lad anymore he 'l be 35.o Your opinion stands for nothing.. Same goes for anybodies opinions.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 Have I seriously just read that Starman thinks Ward has been misguided by himself! Now as stupid statements go that's up there on the top 10. He either wasn't controlled by his parents or fell into the wrong crowd. Lets face it if he wasn't good at speedway he would probably have found his way to a prison cell. Some people mature later than others. He's still a young lad.. Don't go looking for excuses. but yes, he needs to cut out this crap and get his head down. Because before he knows it he won't be a young lad anymore he 'l be 35. Your opinion stands for nothing.. doesnt it? Damn and there was me thinking the FIM would be reading the forum and looking for my posts to see what I thought before making a decision! Try having a debate for once. This is called a forum. A place where we can have an opinion and debate without buerks like you spouting crap. Go back over the last few pages and have a look at the amount if posts and different people that take the proverbial out of you it's quite staggering. And before you come out with your usual claptrap of hating Ward or anti Poole then read my posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 Not wrong at all . After what we heard at the Court case and all others things he done most dislike him . What he's done on a bike means nowt to me . Plenty of people are judged by what they do in the public spotlight you don't to be there best mate . What he has done, allegedly done or been accused of in the past has nothing to do with this incident. This incident relates around the self admitted fact that Ward drank a lot of alcohol on the night before a GP and on the day of the GP failed a breath test. Unfortunately some people's comments on here relating this incident are fueled by the former. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500cc Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 who would you say he has been misguided by? His lawyers !!! They get to practice their international law with the potential for trips to Geneva, Australia and the UK. Seriously though, the number of altercations he now has with various legal authorities is worrying. They all involve him putting himself in positions that leave him open to 'dangers'. Middleditch gets a lot of stick on here. However, his comments just comments fail to recognise the severity of the issues Ward is getting himself into. But like many I just realise he doesn't have a clue. Ford is more interesting. He effectively stated Ward had a last chance. In terms of supporting Ward I don't have an issue. But if he is found guilty, will he still give him another chance (i.e. guilty but available for March). I would have no confidence this is the last issue Ward will be involved in. Remember these are serious legal altercations. However contrite he appears, he continues to make these major mistakes. If Ward is cleared, then the worst thing he and his advisors can do is treat it as a non-issue. It is fact that he has put himself in this position, even if he were proven innocent of the charges. He must truly learn this time, and the first thing to do would be to accept he has let himself and others down, and be grateful that he avoided being found guilty. Innoncence or Guilt are black and white in this case. The fact he consumed alcohol to put himself at risk of being caught is not. He must recognise the impact of his actions. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinsgirl Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 (edited) Lets face it if he wasn't good at speedway he would probably have found his way to a prison cell. or conversely if he wasn't good at speedway he may be trouble free now! Everyone can speculate. Edited February 2, 2015 by robinsgirl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 Nicki has a lot of fans and well as I lot of haters ..think you find a lot people would have tried to defend him . Ward bar a few Poole fans is disliked by most Let it be said, Nicki Pedersen is the complete professional, and would never do anything to jeopardise his career . It is only sometimes, the red mist comes down when he actually on the bike......... And that's why im very keen to see an ALL TEST before every GP round..... Why do you deem it necessary? trying to justify Wards behaviour ? The system works perfectly well and all riders are aware of the rules. Just because one stupid, juvenile, individual thinks is right to indulge before an important meeting, that not a reason to change things.. No doubt there are enough testing going on already, why add more work to the administration. Why mend something that's not broken.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 Not wrong at all . After what we heard at the Court case and all others things he done most dislike him . What he's done on a bike means nowt to me . Plenty of people are judged by what they do in the public spotlight you don't to be there best mate .I think you are wrong to say MOST dislike him,people i speak to generally want him to be punished but also to maybe help him in the future.I certainly do i think he should be severely fined that put into the injured riders fund and aloud to start in March but he has to miss the GP Series for a year even miss the Australian GP believe me that will hurt.Also he should have a two year period where he has to stay out of strife, all down to Darcy then.I also don't agree with all the Middleditch crap friends stick together in my experience and i admire Neil for that ok he has got angry and said certain thing's (who hasn't ) but mates stick together forever.Ward for me is the biggest talent i have seen since Michael Lee, i hope he keeps his head down and shows us what he can do.I will be supporting him anyway,i hope this week the episode is finished with one way or another. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 Have I seriously just read that Starman thinks Ward has been misguided by himself! Now as stupid statements go that's up there on the top 10. He either wasn't controlled by his parents or fell into the wrong crowd. Lets face it if he wasn't good at speedway he would probably have found his way to a prison cell. doesnt it? Damn and there was me thinking the FIM would be reading the forum and looking for my posts to see what I thought before making a decision! Try having a debate for once. This is called a forum. A place where we can have an opinion and debate without buerks like you spouting crap. Go back over the last few pages and have a look at the amount if posts and different people that take the proverbial out of you it's quite staggering. And before you come out with your usual claptrap of hating Ward or anti Poole then read my posts. Are you taking the Michael again, Gav? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 What he has done, allegedly done or been accused of in the past has nothing to do with this incident. This incident relates around the self admitted fact that Ward drank a lot of alcohol on the night before a GP and on the day of the GP failed a breath test. Unfortunately some people's comments on here relating this incident are fueled by the former. Darcy Ward, IMO one of, if not the most talented and exciting riders of a generation. I can honestly say no other rider has ever left me feeling quite so excited when he rolls up to the tapes but also believe he will (not can, but will) win any race you put him in. I love that, I want to see that for the next 20 years (Hancock & Gollob have shown thats possibly). So when I make negative comments don't think it's because I hate Darcy Ward as Starman and Middlo would have you believe. But the reason I, and others, bring up his past indecisions is because people like Starman and Middlo will bang the "learning from mistakes" drum. I just point out, he hasn't and why hasn't he? Because he keep getting away with it. How long before he seriously hurts someone? The rape/sexual assault thing - even his legal team said what he did was disgusting so even if not actual full on rape/sexual assault what he did wasn't nice. On it's own you'd go, may he was unlucky (notice how the "unnamed 17 year old" has kept his head down, and it working hard to stay whiter than white?). I don't need to go through the others but the point is, he doesn't learn form them does he? They all involved drink (or drugs) and he keeps going silly things every 12-18 months and you just know he will again. How long before he is causing serious injury or heaven forbid death with one of his little stunts? Someone needs to stop Darcy Ward NOW. For himself. Before he goes mad, goes down the wrong path and screws up his life and career. Do we want another Michael Lee? Or Paul Gascoigne? Nobody stopped Kelly Moran because he was a talented motorcyclist and a "character" - look at where he is now. So when I moan, complain, bitch, slag off or "hate on" Darcy, it's far more for his sake than for anyone elses. Let him sort himself out. Stay out of trouble for a few years and you know what? I think he could go from a seriously disliked person to a truly liked, loved and raved about speedway rider. To Darcy, don't throw away what you have. Please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 Have I seriously just read that Starman thinks Ward has been misguided by himself! Now as stupid statements go that's up there on the top 10. He either wasn't controlled by his parents or fell into the wrong crowd. Lets face it if he wasn't good at speedway he would probably have found his way to a prison cell. Let's be honest, if fellow Pirates supporters can't get through to him then what hope has anyone else got? To be fair though, Darcy has let himself (as well as Poole Speedway, his other clubs and ALL his fans throughout the world) down...maybe that is what Starman was attempting to say? Or am I just being a bit too sensible with logic...something which is obviously a struggle in some quarters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 Let it be said, Nicki Pedersen is the complete professional, and would never do anything to jeopardise his career . It is only sometimes, the red mist comes down when he actually on the bike......... Why do you deem it necessary? trying to justify Wards behaviour ? The system works perfectly well and all riders are aware of the rules. Just because one stupid, juvenile, individual thinks is right to indulge before an important meeting, that not a reason to change things.. No doubt there are enough testing going on already, why add more work to the administration. Why mend something that's not broken.......... Maybe random testing should be for say 6 riders ie approx. one third of the field as far as GPs are concerned - or maybe even half?! Not defending Ward particularly but he and others have been tested randomly before and have passed the test OK. That could mean that riders do socialise together on the eve of a GP and maybe DO have a drink - with the whole of the following day to 're-hydrate', rather than just to lunchtime as in Latvia. Ward has admitted on TV that he was slightly over the limit - based on what may or may not have been a flawed testing process. Assuming the testing process proves to have been ok, then there is clearly a case to answer - in Ward's case, whether the jury consider there may have been mitigating circumstances, it is his first offence as far as FIM are concerned and may well be punished by time served - or not?! I for one want to see him back in league racing asap. (even though as far as Poole is concerned I don't think its the best team building option for 2015 for Poole to be EL Champs for the 3rd consecutive season!) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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