John Leslie Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 What's CAS, Ghostwalker? Court of Arbitration for Sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 Court of Arbitration for Sport Thanks John... Lets hope its not like our CAS then, Redcar reckon Aaron Summers is worth 25k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytsejam Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 (edited) I think he will get a years ban which is what he deserves really. I think it will be back dated to August which means he doesnt really miss much racing out of those 12 months. If he lines up at the tapes in March for any side it will not serve any purpose. Then again when he was tested the wind was blowing in the wrong direction, it was a Sunday, and he is a very talented rider. All those things should mean he should really get off without punishment What a couple of totally ludicrous statements from someone clearly totally biased against Ward. Even IF he gets no further punishment (which I can't see being the case) he's not been able to ride in several GP's in 2014, for several matches (and play offs) for his league clubs in various countries and in things like the Australian Championship, so how in the name of God do you come up with such ignorant and stupid comments that he will get off "without punishment "?!! and "he doesn't really miss much racing out of those 12 months"!!! Peoples ignorance really does beggar belief sometimes!! For what its worth I think he SHOULD get a 12 month ban, but if that runs from August to August then how isn't that fair?!!! Edited January 27, 2015 by ytsejam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 What a couple of totally ludicrous statements from someone clearly totally biased against Ward. Even IF he gets no further punishment (which I can't see being the case) he's not been able to ride in several GP's in 2014, for several matches (and play offs) for his league clubs in various countries and in things like the Australian Championship, so how in the name of God do you come up with such ignorant and stupid comments that he will get off "without punishment "?!! and "he doesn't really miss much racing out of those 12 months"!!! Peoples ignorance really does beggar belief sometimes!! For what its worth I think he SHOULD get a 12 month ban, but if that runs from August to August then how isn't that fair?!!! get back in your pram mate! ive said Ward should get 12 months so we agree on that!!!!!!!!!!!!!! try finding out some facts before you post please. Ward failed a breath test so to miss as you say ' a few gp's and play off matches' is small fry. If you care to do any research then you will have noticed Ward HASNT RIDDEN IN THE OZ CHAMPS SINCE 2011. so the crap you spoke there holds no substance. As I said Ward should not be free to ride when the season starts but in August when his 12 months is up which you agree with. So that means that you think if he does line up in march then he hasn't served his punishment. yes or no? Your post makes no sense!! People on here want to hang Ward ...... ive said he should get 12 months.... my god im so anti Ward!!! Do yourself a favour moron and engage brain before typing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Gavan - how do you justify your statement that a ban til august means that ward won't have missed much racing? He will have missed a full season? its pretty clear that yerropes was saying that even if he lined up in march, then ward has still been punished, just not as strongly punished as many (Including yerropes)would say was fair. not sure why the tantrum? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Gavan - how do you justify your statement that a ban til august means that ward won't have missed much racing? He will have missed a full season? its pretty clear that yerropes was saying that even if he lined up in march, then ward has still been punished, just not as strongly punished as many (Including yerropes)would say was fair. not sure why the tantrum? wasnt yerropes it was ytsejam. My point was that if he is banned for 12 months from August to August he misses only 7 months of racing and my argument would be is that fair? The winter months do not count as i said Ward doesnt do the Aussie champs so is 7 months of actual racing time a fair ban? Thats whats open to debate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 wasnt yerropes it was ytsejam. My point was that if he is banned for 12 months from August to August he misses only 7 months of racing and my argument would be is that fair? The winter months do not count as i said Ward doesnt do the Aussie champs so is 7 months of actual racing time a fair ban? Thats whats open to debate Ward has missed racing since the GP in Latvia, though technically he has been suspended and not banned, maybe the FIM will take that into account. Something tells me Ward will be back sooner rather than later though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 wasnt yerropes it was ytsejam. My point was that if he is banned for 12 months from August to August he misses only 7 months of racing and my argument would be is that fair? The winter months do not count as i said Ward doesnt do the Aussie champs so is 7 months of actual racing time a fair ban? Thats whats open to debate A 12 month ban (regardless of which month it starts) covers an entire season whichever continent you're talking about, and I would say would be the correct punishment. If Ward is banned for 12 months and free to make his return in August, I'd say they've got it dead right. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 (edited) wasnt yerropes it was ytsejam. My point was that if he is banned for 12 months from August to August he misses only 7 months of racing and my argument would be is that fair? The winter months do not count as i said Ward doesnt do the Aussie champs so is 7 months of actual racing time a fair ban? Thats whats open to debate What is not open to debate is that any FIM suspension or ban is for all speedway and not restricted to just Europe! However, maybe the final punishment will be left to Motorcycle Australia to administer - in which case any further ban may simply be in Australia or representing Australia in GPs and/or International Team meetings??! Edited January 28, 2015 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 What is not open to debate is that any FIM suspension or ban is for all speedway and not restricted to just Europe! However, maybe the final punishment will be left to Motorcycle Australia to administer - in which case any further ban may simply be in Australia or representing Australia in GPs and/or International Team meetings??! How can it be left to the Motorcycle Australia, Ward wasn't representing his Country in SGP, also the meeting of the failed alcohol test didn't take place in Australia. Any ban would surely have to be total and Worldwide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 (edited) How can it be left to the Motorcycle Australia, Ward wasn't representing his Country in SGP, also the meeting of the failed alcohol test didn't take place in Australia. Any ban would surely have to be total and Worldwide. Of course and I am sure that it also applies to at least all FIM sports as well. What's CAS, Ghostwalker? The Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS; French: Tribunal arbitral du sport, TAS) is an international quasi-judicial body established to settle disputes related to sport. Its headquarters are in Lausanne (Switzerland) and its courts are located in New York, Sydney and Lausanne. Temporary courts are established in current Olympic host cities. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_of_Arbitration_for_Sport Edited January 28, 2015 by Ghostwalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 A 12 month ban (regardless of which month it starts) covers an entire season whichever continent you're talking about, and I would say would be the correct punishment. If Ward is banned for 12 months and free to make his return in August, I'd say they've got it dead right. Im in agreement that 12 months is a sufficient ban and i to expect him to be riding in August. What im trying to get across is that if he rides in march he will have missed 3 months at most of actual racing and in my opinion that is not a true punishment to fit what he did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 I think they should take him out and hang him. Would probably still not satisfy some folks on here........................................................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iand Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Has a new date been set for the hearing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Has a new date been set for the hearing? What happened to the old date? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Last I heard it was this Friday 30th Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 (edited) Last I heard it was this Friday 30th Jan ...and still is! How can it be left to the Motorcycle Australia, Ward wasn't representing his Country in SGP, also the meeting of the failed alcohol test didn't take place in Australia. Any ban would surely have to be total and Worldwide. Pray tell which country Ward was representing in the SGP?? There's probably a bit of a clue whenever he wins one and they play his national anthem!! NB. Stefan Danno's ban was imposed by Svemo even though the offence was committed at the European GP in Poland! Edited January 28, 2015 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 ...and still is! Pray tell which country Ward was representing in the SGP?? There's probably a bit of a clue whenever he wins one and they play his national anthem!! NB. Stefan Danno's ban was imposed by Svemo even though the offence was committed at the European GP in Poland! I take your point but SGP is an individual event, SWC is more relevant. Your right about Danno, though when he was banned there was no WADA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 I think they should take him out and hang him. Would probably still not satisfy some folks on here........................................................... Another fictional post crops up. Who are you referring too. It seems the most 'biased' poster people talk about is Gavan.. who has stated many times he believes a 12 month ban, backdated from the time of the incident is appropriate. So who wants him taken out and hung? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 How can it be left to the Motorcycle Australia, Ward wasn't representing his Country in SGP, also the meeting of the failed alcohol test didn't take place in Australia. Any ban would surely have to be total and Worldwide. Will his licence for Speedway not be issued through Motorcycle Australia initially . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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