pugwash Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Im very sure he's not the first, and unless they do an all test he won't be the last. Smacks as. Starry, you're right. All riders inc reserves should be breathtested prior to racing. It can't be a huge or expensive task to carry out. No reason not to adopt same for all meetings, leagues, testimomials whatever. Don't know if there are any breath tests carried out prior to these events at present. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 And I was trying to draw attention to the fact that that doesn't make it right and therefore is a completely irrelevant comment.Clearly it doesn't make it all right. My point was a that darcy isn't unique in offending and b that attitude towards darcy is different to that of others who have done the same.I've been pretty consistent in saying I think a 6-12 month ban appropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Sadly im not mostly wrong. Darcy has been a fool, and i really do hope, no sorry, he will learn from this, and i really do hope that he goes on to forfill his potential. I will stick up for any of our riders, but Its in Darcys hands, his destiny is in his own hands. The only person who can help Darcy forfill his potential is, Darcy.. Spot on. I full agree with all you say here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 You talk trash fool anti POOLE to the extreme laughable really, take a deep breath is the the sport better with Ward in it or without him surely there has to be one answer with you though I have me doubts. what a grade a prat you are. talk trash fool lol. where are you from the ghetto! the sport is better for Ward in it but its TOTALLY IRRELEVENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! its irrelevant who he rides for, its irrelevant his ability, its irrelevant any past issues. Look at the bigger picture man for christs sake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 The sport is certainly a better place without a rider who attempted to ride in a GP whilst over the alcohol limit, surely?Punish him of course but believe me speedway is a better place with Ward in it no doubt about it.The disgraceful thing is that this has not been dealt with by now touch wood he will be able to resume riding in March.He has to then buckle down and do what he does best ride speedway i want to see the best ride and he is certainly in the top five riders in the world. what a grade a prat you are. talk trash fool lol. where are you from the ghetto! the sport is better for Ward in it but its TOTALLY IRRELEVENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! its irrelevant who he rides for, its irrelevant his ability, its irrelevant any past issues. Look at the bigger picture man for christs sake Any post on here that you post about POOLE or WARD people on here do not take you seriously.You are deluded why dont you ever speak about Ipswich your supposed team? why are you so obsessed with crucifying Poole if i were you i would be worried there must be a word for your condition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Punish him of course but believe me speedway is a better place with Ward in it no doubt about it.The disgraceful thing is that this has not been dealt with by now touch wood he will be able to resume riding in March.He has to then buckle down and do what he does best ride speedway i want to see the best ride and he is certainly in the top five riders in the world.Any post on here that you post about POOLE or WARD people on here do not take you seriously.You are deluded why dont you ever speak about Ipswich your supposed team? why are you so obsessed with crucifying Poole if i were you i would be worried there must be a word for your condition.think you will find my posts are taken seriously. It's people like you and Starman people mock. Get it into your thick head THIS ISN'T A POOLE THING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Starry, you're right. All riders inc reserves should be breathtested prior to racing. It can't be a huge or expensive task to carry out. No reason not to adopt same for all meetings, leagues, testimomials whatever. Don't know if there are any breath tests carried out prior to these events at present. I think someone suggested that 138 pages ago!! (ps random tests are carried out in EL racing - and I presume other leagues too - and presumably everyone has passed otherwise we would have heard about it) (pps. Darcy has passed when selected at random!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 think you will find my posts are taken seriously. It's people like you and Starman people mock. Get it into your thick head THIS ISN'T A POOLE THINGI listen to what Starman has to say whether he is right or wrong,yourself i don't take you seriously.I can't remember you ever really debating any subject positively,always a dig here and there and go back through your posts there is a massive trend there with Poole speedway.Starman say what you like about him but he is passionate and he does know his speedway as for you there is not alot of evidence that show me that you know yours. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 think you will find my posts are taken seriously. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Starman knows his speedway! Go back over any if his posts and see what EVERYONE says. He'll go on the Poole 2015 thread and even Poole fans have had enough of him. If you think that people feel Darcy needs a ban because he rides for Poole just shows your narrow mindedness Go over my posts Starman and see how many are liked. Go over your posts and there are about 10 people who quite you and mock you including your own supporters on your thread. If you think your posts are taken seriously you are somewhat deluded. People see them for comedy value 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Go over my posts Starman and see how many are liked. Go over your posts and there are about 10 people who quite you and mock you including your own supporters on your thread. If you think your posts are taken seriously you are somewhat deluded. People see them for comedy value Clearly you need to make a visitation to one of our sponsors then. Specsavers... Either that or trim that bloody wig. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksback Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) It should be at least a year ban it's really that simple. It needs to be a punishment to fit the crime, When you look at "the crime" does it really warrant a 2 year or even a 12 month ban. Firstly it is not an offence to consume alcohol away from the track and he did not drink at the track. I believe the breath test was done around midday at the completion of the riders briefing and his first heat would have been around 3.30pm. If the test was done just prior to his first heat he would have been under the limit, passed the test and free to ride. So to say he attempted to ride pissed is just ridiculous. I agree the punishment should fit the crime. 6 months is ample for being so stupid. Edited November 29, 2014 by jacksback 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 1.When you look at "the crime" does it really warrant a 2 year or even a 12 month ban. 2. Firstly it is not an offence to consume alcohol away from the track and he did not drink at the track. 3. I believe the breath test was done around midday at the completion of the riders briefing and his first heat would have been around 3.30pm. 4. If the test was done just prior to his first heat he would have been under the limit, passed the test and free to ride. 5. So to say he attempted to ride pissed is just ridiculous. 6. I agree the punishment should fit the crime. 6 months is ample for being so stupid. 1.Yes it does. 2.It does not matter where he drank the alcohol, he was over the limit when the test was done and that is all that matters. 3. Again does not matter, he shouldn't have been drinking so much alcohol that it would set him over the limit the next day. 4. Maybe maybe not, but again does not matter. The rules says "during competition" and not "prior to the first heat". 5. It is not. 6. Good, he violated the doping rules, standard suspension length is 2 years: I think it is possible that discount might be handed out if there is a possibility that the offender might have gotten the illegal substance into his/her system by mistake. In Darcy's case he was fully aware of what he was drinking so there is no mitigating circumstances in that case. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) 1.Yes it does. 2.It does not matter where he drank the alcohol, he was over the limit when the test was done and that is all that matters. 3. Again does not matter, he shouldn't have been drinking so much alcohol that it would set him over the limit the next day. 4. Maybe maybe not, but again does not matter. The rules says "during competition" and not "prior to the first heat". 5. It is not. 6. Good, he violated the doping rules, standard suspension length is 2 years: I think it is possible that discount might be handed out if there is a possibility that the offender might have gotten the illegal substance into his/her system by mistake. In Darcy's case he was fully aware of what he was drinking so there is no mitigating circumstances in that case. I thought the standard suspension was up to 2 years, with discretion if it was his first FIM offence - which it was. Whatever the final punishment - it will be what it will be! But what is wrong, very wrong, is the delay in dealing with the case and stopping all his clubs from making any plans for 2015, when the offence occurred only at one GP! Edited November 29, 2014 by Skidder1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 I thought the standard suspension was up to 2 years, with discretion if it was his first FIM offence - which it was. Whatever the final punishment - it will be what it will be! But what is wrong, very wrong, is the delay in dealing with the case and stopping all his clubs from making any plans for 2015, when the offence occurred only at one GP! The delay is in no way stopping his clubs from making any plans for 2015-just sign up a team that ARE DEFINATELY available-simple job done !! 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 I thought the standard suspension was up to 2 years, with discretion if it was his first FIM offence - which it was. Whatever the final punishment - it will be what it will be! But what is wrong, very wrong, is the delay in dealing with the case and stopping all his clubs from making any plans for 2015, when the offence occurred only at one GP! Terrible really,a disgrace how can these people in power not be challenged? Ffs how long does it take January 2015 is a joke and they should not be able to get away with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baba Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) Maybe the f.i.m are waiting to see what they get off matt ford for christmas. Edited November 29, 2014 by baba 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 Terrible really,a disgrace how can these people in power not be challenged? Ffs how long does it take January 2015 is a joke and they should not be able to get away with it. And neither should the pi$$ head Ward. Let's hope not anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) Maybe the f.i.m are waiting to see what they get off matt ford for christmas. I suppose it could always be a contract for Paco Castagna!!? Edited November 29, 2014 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 And neither should the pi$$ head Ward. Let's hope not anyway.Says somebody who has never made a mistake in his life,and how do you know he is a pi.....d .?Tell you what when he comes back and rides for Poole why don't you go to the pits and tell him and his mechanics to there faces.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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