Lioness Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 I think the hashtag thing just gets over used in different ways now GC rather than just twitter #Noyouarenot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Interesting response, Lioness. #howdoyouknow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Interesting response, Lioness. #howdoyouknow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chris Brown Posted January 9, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) Darcy fancies his chances @D_Dublu_racing: I think and feeling pretty confident I will be at Poole for this season. Thanks to Matt ,Middlo , my clubs for the support #wardtorace2015 I really think the last thing Middleditch needs is thanks, some of this recent quotes are frankly embarrassing "it wasn't drugs and it wasn't and it wasn't performance enhancing. If anything it would be debilitating to his performance" "was he just over or way over ? They need to take that into account" "he'll be riding at the start of the season, which is what everybody is hoping for" "they've ruined two year of his career" "he has 3 mechanics sitting around wondering if they are going to have a job" Sorry but some of this is shocking, its alcohol in a dangerous sport Middleditch you fool, it does not matter one jot whether he was just over or couldn't walk. Just the same as when you drive a car. The drugs v alcohol comparison is also a disgrace Does 'everybody' really want him riding at the start of the season ? I don't, I want him punished if he is guilty Lets not forget that its Darcy Ward who turned up over the alcohol limit, the position he is in has been 99% caused by Darcy Ward and the reason 3 mechanics are sweating over their jobs is that their boss can't control himself And to be honest with crap like this being spouted by the bloke who supposedly looks out for him its hardly surprising. The FIM have not helped but let us not lose sight of why there is a problem As for the fact that these frankly appalling quotes were even given column inches by the Speedway Star..................well I am surprised and disappointed Still the bloke is clearly a car crash and he has learned nothing from previous scrapes so if he worms his out of this one on a technicality then its only a matter of time before the next one Complete waste of a huge talent and being let down by those around him IMO Edited January 9, 2015 by Chris Brown 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 I really think the last thing Middleditch needs is thanks, some of this recent quotes are frankly embarrassing "it wasn't drugs and it wasn't and it wasn't performance enhancing. If anything it would be debilitating to his performance" "was he just over or way over ? They need to take that into account" "he'll be riding at the start of the season, which is what everybody is hoping for" "they've ruined two year of his career" "he has 3 mechanics sitting around wondering if they are going to have a job" Sorry but some of this is shocking, its alcohol in a dangerous sport Middleditch you fool, it does not matter one jot whether he was just over or couldn't walk. Just the same as when you drive a car. The drugs v alcohol comparison is also a disgrace Does 'everybody' really want him riding at the start of the season ? I don't, I want him punished if he is guilty Lets not forget that its Darcy Ward who turned up over the alcohol limit, the position he is in has been 99% caused by Darcy Ward and the reason 3 mechanics are sweating over their jobs is that their boss can't control himself And to be honest with crap like this being spouted by the bloke who supposedly looks out for him its hardly surprising. The FIM have not helped but let us not lose sight of why there is a problem As for the fact that these frankly appalling quotes were even given column inches by the Speedway Star..................well I am surprised and disappointed Still the bloke is clearly a car crash and he has learned nothing from previous scrapes so if he worms his out of this one on a technicality then its only a matter of time before the next one Complete waste of a huge talent and being let down by those around him IMO Send me your Address and i'l drum you up a middlo hat, your obviously a big fan, i can see that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 I really think the last thing Middleditch needs is thanks, some of this recent quotes are frankly embarrassing "it wasn't drugs and it wasn't and it wasn't performance enhancing. If anything it would be debilitating to his performance" "was he just over or way over ? They need to take that into account" "he'll be riding at the start of the season, which is what everybody is hoping for" "they've ruined two year of his career" "he has 3 mechanics sitting around wondering if they are going to have a job" Sorry but some of this is shocking, its alcohol in a dangerous sport Middleditch you fool, it does not matter one jot whether he was just over or couldn't walk. Just the same as when you drive a car. The drugs v alcohol comparison is also a disgrace Does 'everybody' really want him riding at the start of the season ? I don't, I want him punished if he is guilty Lets not forget that its Darcy Ward who turned up over the alcohol limit, the position he is in has been 99% caused by Darcy Ward and the reason 3 mechanics are sweating over their jobs is that their boss can't control himself And to be honest with crap like this being spouted by the bloke who supposedly looks out for him its hardly surprising. The FIM have not helped but let us not lose sight of why there is a problem As for the fact that these frankly appalling quotes were even given column inches by the Speedway Star..................well I am surprised and disappointed Still the bloke is clearly a car crash and he has learned nothing from previous scrapes so if he worms his out of this one on a technicality then its only a matter of time before the next one Complete waste of a huge talent and being let down by those around him IMO You missed out Muddlo's Classic: " Darcy knows he did wrong...." I bet Matt and Darcy's lawyers loved that admission being broadcast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 I for one want to see Darcy back as a reformed person. However it may do him good to get away from the comfort zone he is in at Poole where quite clearly the management there do not help him in anyway. Middlo consistently comes out with ridiculous statements that just bigger belief sometimes. Matt Ford for some absurd reason dedicated the title to Ward last season when he was the person that could have ruined the title for them. Sadly while the Poole management drool over him and let him do what he likes and see no wrong, you have to wonder if he will ever learn what us right and wrong. I've just read over the quotes again from Middlo and they just smack if a complete buffoon The one about his mechanics is the funniest! Take a breath Middlo and ask why his mechanics are sitting around! Also the fact that being over the limit is not performance enhancing so its not a problem lol. Let him get mullered before a meeting then because that way he will just ride round at the back and not be a danger! All Middlo needs to say is the club will support Darcy whatever the outcome but no he just spouts off crap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) Whatever people's opinions of comments etc on this topic, nevertheless the WADA (to which FIM are signatories) do make a difference between alcohol and (performance enhancing) drugs. Furthermore, they also differentiate between 'in-competion' and 'out of competition' usage. (Darcy's consumption was 'out of competition' but tested 'in competition') Some have compared Ward's case similarly to Stefan Danno's, but Danno was clearly very drunk at the track, insulted/assulted FIM officials and still had alcohol in his possession. Ward was clearly not 'very drunk' as was obvious as he went on TV to be interviewed. However he was apparently only 'slightly over' the accepted level. None of which is acceptable, but is likely to be argued by those supportive of Ward, in addition to any claims of irregularities in the testing and the lack of 'timely fashion' taken for the hearing to take place and may well be an influence on the eventual verdict/penalty?! The 'timely hearing' clause is included in the regs exactly so that not only the rider but particularly his support teams (not just UK-based) including mechanics etc etc are not unfairly inconvenienced!! Edited January 10, 2015 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 Whatever people's opinions of comments etc on this topic, nevertheless the WADA (to which FIM are signatories) do make a difference between alcohol and (performance enhancing) drugs. Furthermore, they also differentiate between 'in-competion' and 'out of competition' usage. (Darcy's consumption was 'out of competition' but tested 'in competition') Some have compared Ward's case similarly to Stefan Danno's, but Danno was clearly very drunk at the track, insulted/assulted FIM officials and still had alcohol in his possession. Ward was clearly not 'very drunk' as was obvious as he went on TV to be interviewed. However he was apparently only 'slightly over' the accepted level. None of which is acceptable, but is likely to be argued by those supportive of Ward, in addition to any claims of irregularities in the testing and the lack of 'timely fashion' taken for the hearing to take place and may well be an influence on the eventual verdict/penalty?! The 'timely hearing' clause is included in the regs exactly so that not only the rider but particularly his support teams (not just UK-based) including mechanics etc etc are not unfairly inconvenienced!! I think the word Drunk has been used on here by the know nothings.. Thats a bit of a statement for those to make, DRUNK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 I think the word Drunk has been used on here by the know nothings.. Thats a bit of a statement for those to make, DRUNK. What on earth are you rambling on about? Nobody has said he was drunk He was over the limit its simple really. You dont have to be staggering around with a bottle in your hand to be over the limit. Is it beyond you to realise people want to see Darcy back and reformed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 More allegations being made public over the 'Darcy testing' - this time from respected speedway journo Peter Oakes - breath test allegedly carried out by an off-duty police officer, which may bring into question any other part of the process?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 More allegations being made public over the 'Darcy testing' - this time from respected speedway journo Peter Oakes - breath test allegedly carried out by an off-duty police officer, which may bring into question any other part of the process?! Long as this police officer was qualified to perform the test I don't see the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 I think the word Drunk has been used on here by the know nothings.. Thats a bit of a statement for those to make, DRUNK. Please quote me someone who has said he was very drunk when tested. Otherwise, once again, you're making things up to enflame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Long as this police officer was qualified to perform the test I don't see the issue. I'm only saying whats in the article! Presumably the article wouldn't have mentioned it unless there was some sort of query?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) I thought most people who officiated at Speedway meetings were 'off duty' from their day job. It is difficult to think of anyone better qualified to do a breath test than a Police Officer. Surely? . Edited January 12, 2015 by Grand Central Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 I thought most people who officiated at Speedway meetings were 'off duty' from their day job. It is difficult to think of anyone better qualified to do a breath test than a Police Officer. Surely? . it would depend on whether or not he was actually FIM approved, which is what I think the article maybe alluding to.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 I hope this doesn't get dragged into Darcy being cleared on some sort of ridiculous technicality. What I hope happens is he gets, say, a three year ban, with the time he's served out already being counted towards the ban and the rest being suspended. Then he can get on with his racing. He's had a long time out now and missed out on 2 cracks at the World title, which he probably deserved to happen. Hopefully it will teach him the lessons needed and it is clear to him he musn't transgress again. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusky Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 I'm only saying whats in the article! Presumably the article wouldn't have mentioned it unless there was some sort of query?! Problem comes that numerous other people, riders & officials, all passed the test that was administered by the same official with the same equipment whereas Darcy failed on multiple occassions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 I hope this doesn't get dragged into Darcy being cleared on some sort of ridiculous technicality. What I hope happens is he gets, say, a three year ban, with the time he's served out already being counted towards the ban and the rest being suspended. Then he can get on with his racing. He's had a long time out now and missed out on 2 cracks at the World title, which he probably deserved to happen. Hopefully it will teach him the lessons needed and it is clear to him he musn't transgress again. 3 year ban is way to excessive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 3 year ban is way to excessive Two then. My main point is he shoud get the rest of the ban suspended and be allowed to continue his career immediately but have a suspended sentence hanging over his head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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