Blazeaway Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Why is it nonsense ?you want him severely punished at all costs that's your way of looking at it.Be interesting to see overall what most speedway fans think? punishment YES but how severe that's another thing. At all costs? Explain that one. It's nonsense because every time someone points out Wards long string of indiscretions, you question whether they've ever done anything wrong. Which, like most of what you've posted on this thread is completely irrelevant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Can't wait to try and jump on anything can you. No im not wrong.. but in all your eyes.. But you are wrong. Phillpsr posts number 2112, Sidney responds in post 2113 by asking him a question. He didn't ask Blazeaway a question - as you allege. Wrong again Starry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 At all costs? Explain that one. It's nonsense because every time someone points out Wards long string of indiscretions, you question whether they've ever done anything wrong. Which, like most of what you've posted on this thread is completely irrelevant. Why is it irrelevant? a string of indiscretions that had nothing to do with speedway not on the track anyway.His other mistakes neither of us know the true facts, also i have never heard Ward blame anyone else for his mistakes.So going back to this speedway issue he has made one mistake on the speedway side of things is that right or wrong.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Why is it irrelevant? a string of indiscretions that had nothing to do with speedway not on the track anyway.His other mistakes neither of us know the true facts, also i have never heard Ward blame anyone else for his mistakes.So going back to this speedway issue he has made one mistake on the speedway side of things is that right or wrong.? Mate i wouldn't bother. You won't get answers from any of them. They are so far against Darcy its untrue. No mate they are all perfect they've never made a mistake in there lives. Would have been very interesting to see how many pages this thread attracted had he not rode for Poole.. And that, really is the bottom line.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YerRopes Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 With regard to Darcy's FIM case, his previous misdemeanors are irrelevant as they are not speedway related... Darcy should be treated in exactly the same manner as anyone else regardless of talent and people's like or dislike of him It suggests paranoia on the part of some if they regard this as some sort of ridiculous 'Poole hater' garbage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 With regard to Darcy's FIM case, his previous misdemeanors are irrelevant as they are not speedway related... Darcy should be treated in exactly the same manner as anyone else regardless of talent and people's like or dislike of him It suggests paranoia on the part of some if they regard this as some sort of ridiculous 'Poole hater' garbage The only thing the FIM will take into consideration is his last misdemeanour, and im sure he will be treated the same as everybody else. At our presentation night he clearly showed remorse, and i would say he's more than learn't his lesson. Yes no doubt he will get a ban, but its discusting the way the FIM are dragging this out. IMO if he's banned for two years after the period its taken the FIM to bring this to hearing then its a bloody discrace. A fair conclusion would be to take his ban from the time they stopped him up untill the start of next season, and make him go through the GP Challenge. THAT, imo would be a fair outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YerRopes Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Yes no doubt he will get a ban, but its discusting the way the FIM are dragging this out. IMO if he's banned for two years after the period its taken the FIM to bring this to hearing then its a bloody discrace. A fair conclusion would be to take his ban from the time they stopped him up untill the start of next season, and make him go through the GP Challenge. THAT, imo would be a fair outcome. Agreed Starman - the hearing should have happened at the earliest opportunity as it is only fair on anyone in Darcy's position to know the outcome as soon as possible so that they know where they stand and can make alternative plans (if necessary) As regards your 2nd point, I'm sure any ban will be back-dated to the date of the offence.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 As regards your 2nd point, I'm sure any ban will be back-dated to the date of the offence.. I would like to think it will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Mate i wouldn't bother. You won't get answers from any of them. They are so far against Darcy its untrue. No mate they are all perfect they've never made a mistake in there lives. Would have been very interesting to see how many pages this thread attracted had he not rode for Poole.. And that, really is the bottom line.. I answered!! I explained im not perfect and make mistakes and that u try to learn from them. Im not against Darcy and i couldn't give a s**t about Poole but i do think he should be banned for at least a year because IMO what he got caught doing deserves that amount of ban IMO its just about the worst thing a rider can do. I accept others think thats harsh and thats fine what i don't like is the ridiculous idea that reason i want that ban is because I'm anti Poole or anti Darcy. I still stand by that he seems completely remorseless and i believe the only way he will learn is a hefty ban 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 (edited) I answered!! I explained im not perfect and make mistakes and that u try to learn from them. Im not against Darcy and i couldn't give a s**t about Poole but i do think he should be banned for at least a year because IMO what he got caught doing deserves that amount of ban IMO its just about the worst thing a rider can do. I accept others think thats harsh and thats fine what i don't like is the ridiculous idea that reason i want that ban is because I'm anti Poole or anti Darcy. I still stand by that he seems completely remorseless and i believe the only way he will learn is a hefty ban How many misdemeanours relating to speedway has Darcy Ward - apart from the present issue - been charged and punished for? Edited November 30, 2014 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 (edited) How many misdemeanours relating to speedway has Darcy Ward - apart from the present issue - been charged and punished for? Why is that relevant? Where have i said he's up for multiple misdemeanours?? Edited November 30, 2014 by phillipsr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 How many misdemeanours relating to speedway has Darcy Ward - apart from the present issue - been charged and punished for? Why is that relevant? Where have i said he's up for multiple misdemeanours?? You misunderstand me - as many so often do. I have not claimed that philliper has said that Darcy Ward has committed 'multiple misdemeanours.' All I am trying to establish is apart from the present issue in regard to the GP what other - if any - speedway offences has he committed and been punished for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribbler Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 You misunderstand me - as many so often do. I have not claimed that philliper has said that Darcy Ward has committed 'multiple misdemeanours.' All I am trying to establish is apart from the present issue in regard to the GP what other - if any - speedway offences has he committed and been punished for? None... But any negative mention in social media that he was a speedway rider tarnished both the sport and any specifically named club that he rode for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Hammer Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Starman2006, I reckon you should represent Darcy at the FIM hearing, just in case some of them are anti-Poole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 (edited) I answered!! I explained im not perfect and make mistakes and that u try to learn from them. Im not against Darcy and i couldn't give a s**t about Poole but i do think he should be banned for at least a year because IMO what he got caught doing deserves that amount of ban IMO its just about the worst thing a rider can do. I accept others think thats harsh and thats fine what i don't like is the ridiculous idea that reason i want that ban is because I'm anti Poole or anti Darcy. I still stand by that he seems completely remorseless and i believe the only way he will learn is a hefty banI do respect your point of view and there are alot of people who feel like you but there are alot of people who feel the other way.Forget what Ward has done for a minute but the biggest sin is that this has not been dealt with swiftly if anything this might of done Ward a favour.Also as Starman has said he Ward has spoke to people and shown remorse ok he has not shouted from the rooftops but he is sorry.Because the FIM ave acted so poorly on this issue, Ward legally might have a good case to keep the ban down. Edited December 1, 2014 by sidney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribbler Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 The FIM covers all motor sport - not just Speedway. In their eyes he's just one rider in a relatively unimportant sport. In the eyes of the FIM there are probably far more important cases that need dealing with and he'll just have to wait his turn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 The FIM covers all motor sport - not just Speedway. In their eyes he's just one rider in a relatively unimportant sport. In the eyes of the FIM there are probably far more important cases that need dealing with and he'll just have to wait his turn. A bit of nit-picking - the FIM does not cover all motor sport. It only covers motorCYCLE sport. As you so rightly say, speedway is fairly (if not VERY) low in regard to their priorities. Aside from my 'alternate' views I endorse what you say in regard to the FIM and Darcy Ward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Nobody is disagreeing that the FIM have reacted slowly. This should have been dealt with far quicker. The fact remains he deserves a ban. The length is up for discussion. Personally i would say 6 months but not backdated. What is laughable is that because we say he needs a ban we are anti poole or anti Darcy. Its just pathetic from the usual suspect. To be under the influence deserves a ban doesnt matter who the rider is or who he rides for. So please Starman stop prattling on and on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Nobody is disagreeing that the FIM have reacted slowly. This should have been dealt with far quicker. The fact remains he deserves a ban. The length is up for discussion. Personally i would say 6 months but not backdated. What is laughable is that because we say he needs a ban we are anti poole or anti Darcy. Its just pathetic from the usual suspect. To be under the influence deserves a ban doesnt matter who the rider is or who he rides for. So please Starman stop prattling on and on If he has been stopped from racing since his offence how exactly can that validate a suggested six month ban? He is already stopped from riding elsewhere in the world at the moment. Technically, Darcy Ward is serving a suspension - as a good defence lawyer for him will argue when the FIM gets around to holding its hearing on the alleged offence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 I would like to think it will. No chance, it'll be backdated to the date of suspension which was a bit after the offence. Niamh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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