Alan_Jones Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 He's done wrong. Turned up at the GP with alcohol still in his system , failed a zero tolerance breath test, got a 3000Euro fine and banned from that GP. What more do you want, his head on a platter. Funny you should say that, there's a bit of a gap next to Alfredo Garcia. On second thoughts, on a spike outside the Tower of London would revive an old tradition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 He's done wrong. Turned up at the GP with alcohol still in his system , failed a zero tolerance breath test, got a 3000Euro fine and banned from that GP. What more do you want, his head on a platter. The appropriate action taken as per the rules and regulations of the FIM. A precedent was set with Stefan Danno. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlipphlopp Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Storm in a shot glass if you ask me. Just imagine the entertainment if they all turned up half p*ssed. I mean its only bike riding. Look at darts players , for decades they've been hammered whilst throwing missiles at a piece of sisal. And no-ones been killed by a darter yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 He's done wrong. Turned up at the GP with alcohol still in his system , failed a zero tolerance breath test, got a 3000Euro fine and banned from that GP. What more do you want, his head on a platter. What you think the matter should just end there? Havvy would probably contest that thought with you. It's not like he accidentally had too much alcohol. He is a grown man who knew he had a major meeting the next day. He made a choice and put his own life and those of his fellow riders at risk. Bad news is something that happens all the time to people. He is not the first in speedway to get it at an inopportune moment. If it was that upsetting he should have approached the organisers and took a day off rather than turning to alcohol. We hear of Nicki, Tai and others as if that's some excuse for Ward. He is the one who failed a booze test! At the very least he should be banned from SGP, never get a pick or wildcard again and made to qualify next season if he wants to be part of the 2016 GP. He should be tested at every major event for the next few years at least. If he wants a world title make him work for it like Woffy did. It would be sad if he got a worldwide ban as he is a talent. I enjoy watching him ride. I don't like him as a person even if I don't know him. The sport has few enough Darcy Ward's. But making excuses for him does not help his cause. He needs to understand that his actions have consequences and grow up. I am no Poole hater but perhaps getting away from the comfort zone he has there might do him a bit of good. I don't want his head on a platter but he has to be taught a very severe lesson for his actions. Hydrating was not his biggest problem on Saturday 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 A lot depends on how much 'over the limit' he was. It's virtually impossible for anyone to have 0% alcohol in their bloodstream, so if it was below the level for driving, then one might have a degree of sympathy, especially the morning after the night before when any moderate impairment is going to be less after some sleep. I've had a few beers the night before a motor sport event, and whilst I'm careful to moderate it, it's not beyond the bounds of possibility that my blood alcohol level wouldn't have been zero even though I'd still be well under the legal limit for driving. This said, it takes more than a couple of beers to be over any sort of limit umpteen hours later, and even if he wasn't physically impaired, I can't imagine it's the best possible preparation for a world championship event. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Its a shame you're disappointed but tbh I don't care a damn how you feel. If a supporter can't try to defend someone they feel is being unfairly targeted then what is the point of this or any discussion forum, or court of law for that matter? So all these dastardly Ward haters spiked his Lemonade to get him banned!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 (edited) A lot depends on how much 'over the limit' he was. It's virtually impossible for anyone to have 0% alcohol in their bloodstream, so if it was below the level for driving, then one might have a degree of sympathy, especially the morning after the night before when any moderate impairment is going to be less after some sleep. I've had a few beers the night before a motor sport event, and whilst I'm careful to moderate it, it's not beyond the bounds of possibility that my blood alcohol level wouldn't have been zero even though I'd still be well under the legal limit for driving. This said, it takes more than a couple of beers to be over any sort of limit umpteen hours later, and even if he wasn't physically impaired, I can't imagine it's the best possible preparation for a world championship event. What Twaddle. It does not matter a damn how far over he was. And he was not driving to work he was due to ride a motorbike very fast with three blokes at his side. It's virtually impossible for anyone to have 0% alcohol in their bloodstream, And you can prove this I presume or is it just something you read on Wikipedia Nicki P had 0% alcohol in his blood and has a photo to prove it. Is he some unique branch of the species Edited August 18, 2014 by pandorum 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Be interesting to know how many times Darcy has been tested for alcohol in this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 And you can prove this I presume or is it just something you read on Wikipedia And what makes you such an expert? A zero reading in testing equipment can also mean below a reliably detectable threshold, not that it's actually 0%. Ward knew the rules, broke the rules and was caught, but there's substantial degrees between being fractionally over a very low limit and being steaming. That we don't know as yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 And what makes you such an expert? A zero reading in testing equipment can also mean below a reliably detectable threshold, not that it's actually 0%. Ward knew the rules, broke the rules and was caught, but there's substantial degrees between being fractionally over a very low limit and being steaming. That we don't know as yet. I have never claimed to be an expert on anything here mate. YOU are the one who babbles on about stuff as if you are the one who invented it. Your 0% point is so pathetic that even a child would feel silly making it. We have trace amounts of lots of things otherwise we would probably die but we generally accept that zero is zero even though we know it isn't really. It's like saying there is nothing in a vacuum when we know there must be but we just have know way of detecting it as yet. Petty and rather stupid but don't let me stop you as I enjoy reading your pompous knowitall post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 The difference being, Best had a very good career in football. Possibly finished too early but please don't coimpare one of the greatest players to ever live, to a speedway rider who is fairly talented but as yet achieved not an awful lot. the difference being you dont need skill balls or talent to play soccer. Anyway ward has broke the rules and a ban is a must 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 People talk of the amount drank as if it is of importance. If you kill a man with one shot or kill him with four the number is inconcequential, the end result is the same. One drink, four drinks, makes no difference knowing your future and others depend on certain standards.Except one drink, or even four, and he would almost certainly not have been over the limit the following day....I'd suggest the amount drunk is of quite dome importance as to the level of risk he was potentially putting others at. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fever Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Only has not because the opportunity was taken away from him by failing the test. Anyone who defends this or thinks a ban is to harsh is an idiot end of I agree ofc .. but it makes you wonder how many others haven't been tested but got away with it doesn't it? Just think of all the accidents that 'just might've been caused' because of it! There must be a whole new thread of pointless argument there. If you're a fan of Ward, your best course of action is to shut up and let it blow over. By constantly trying to defend him you simply cause him more damage. Perhaps you're not a fan after all and just simply want to continue to pour fuel on the fire... Then why don't the anti-Ward mob also shut-up? It works both ways - point is they're entitled to their opinions as much as I am and this is a discussion forum - yes? And of course I'm a bl**dy fan!! Majority of Poole and Lynn fans are after years of watching him ride!I However, I've never defended what he's actually done in any of my posts (but most people on here have failed to notice that ofc). I'm just not one of the lynch mob happy to throw the book at him. Yes he was a pillock, and he got caught, but I doubt that banning him for a long period will help matters - that is my opinion and I'm entitled to think it as much as the lynch mob can think theirs. No doubt there'll be a reply to this comment too, but I'll happily not comment anymore after this as it seems that only Ward-haters etc are allowed to!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 I agree ofc .. but it makes you wonder how many others haven't been tested but got away with it doesn't it? Just think of all the accidents that 'just might've been caused' because of it! There must be a whole new thread of pointless argument there. Then why don't the anti-Ward mob also shut-up? It works both ways - point is they're entitled to their opinions as much as I am and this is a discussion forum - yes? And of course I'm a bl**dy fan!! Majority of Poole and Lynn fans are after years of watching him ride!I However, I've never defended what he's actually done in any of my posts (but most people on here have failed to notice that ofc). I'm just not one of the lynch mob happy to throw the book at him. Yes he was a pillock, and he got caught, but I doubt that banning him for a long period will help matters - that is my opinion and I'm entitled to think it as much as the lynch mob can think theirs. No doubt there'll be a reply to this comment too, but I'll happily not comment anymore after this as it seems that only Ward-haters etc are allowed to!! The point is, they would have shut up if folk like you didn't keep dragging it out. Not much of a fan if you like to perpetuate the bad talk about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fever Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 The point is, they would have shut up if folk like you didn't keep dragging it out. Not much of a fan if you like to perpetuate the bad talk about him. Thats a laugh - I'd have not commented after my first post if there hadn't been reaction to it. Of course I didn't realise at the time this was a 'closed' thread 'reserved ONLY for anti-Ward comments' so apologies for butting in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 (edited) We have trace amounts of lots of things otherwise we would probably die but we generally accept that zero is zero even though we know it isn't really. It's like saying there is nothing in a vacuum when we know there must be but we just have know way of detecting it as yet. So zero is zero, even when we know it's not really zero - which surely brings us back to the original point? Edited August 18, 2014 by Humphrey Appleby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 I'm just not one of the lynch mob happy to throw the book at him. It's what the book's there for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 The point is, they would have shut up if folk like you didn't keep dragging it out. Not much of a fan if you like to perpetuate the bad talk about him. Oh the irony!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Thats a laugh - I'd have not commented after my first post if there hadn't been reaction to it. Of course I didn't realise at the time this was a 'closed' thread 'reserved ONLY for anti-Ward comments' so apologies for butting in. Did you really expect no reaction then ? BWitcher, like many on here is a seeker of truth and justice, hence a reaction will be forthcoming when an indefensible wrong is denied or defended... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 the difference being you dont need skill balls or talent to play soccer. Anyway ward has broke the rules and a ban is a must Would like to see you play football without balls... And to say you don't need skill leads me to believe you've banged your head too many times Deano! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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