Hodgy Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 No doubt the Polish fans would say the same thing if the riders turned round and said "sorry, I'm riding in an individual event in GB, so can't ride for the team I'm contracted to in the Polish League." It's one of the major PL events of the season. Some of these 'drop outs' have rarely been called on for their Polish team yet been given a permanent team place at their PL club all season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) In my opinion this is a disgraceful action from a number of riders, not to mention a real slap in the face to their clubs supporters. 5 withdrawals to date, still time for more. Â If they can't be ar$ed then why should I be. I'm so fed up with all this farcical crap and the lack of respect towards the paying punters. Think I might just give it up and stick to GP's. Â What makes it worse in the case of Olly Allen, is that he was interviewed the other day and said he had made himself unavailable all season in Poland so he could concentrate on Somerset until recently when he decided he could go over for a few Sundays and make some extra dosh - seen as he is being paid 5 times extra compared to what he is over there, so he said. Â So, to myself and no doubt other Somerset fans that now reads that earning a big pay packet in Poland is far more important than riding over here to defend your PLRC title and winning another trophy for Somerset. As I said previously, it's really disapointting after the support Olly has been given by Somerset fans this season. Edited September 19, 2014 by Najjer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 It's one of the major PL events of the season. Some of these 'drop outs' have rarely been called on for their Polish team yet been given a permanent team place at their PL club all season. Â See the last paragraph of my quote #99! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 See the last paragraph of my quote #99! Agreed, so why take the Polish fans into consideration? They hardly know or have seen these riders all season. Â Also agree that if the relevant bodies worked together it surely could have been avoided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Agreed, so why take the Polish fans into consideration? They hardly know or have seen these riders all season. Â Also agree that if the relevant bodies worked together it surely could have been avoided. Â Just saying that there are two sides to the coin, that's all, bearing in mind there will probably around 20,000 fans at the Polish Play-off matches, compared to maybe 5 or 6,000 at the PLRC on Sunday (guessing at the figures, but you get the drift of what I'm saying). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 What makes it worse in the case of Olly Allen, is that he was interviewed the other day and said he had made himself unavailable all season in Poland so he could concentrate on Somerset until recently when he decided he could go over for a few Sundays and make some extra dosh - seen as he is being paid 5 times extra compared to what he is over there, so he said. Â So, to myself and no doubt other Somerset fans that now reads that earning a big pay packet in Poland is far more important than riding over here to defend your PLRC title and winning another trophy for Somerset. As I said previously, it's really disapointting after the support Olly has been given by Somerset fans this season. First thing I thought upon hearing Allen was out as riding in Poland. Contradicts his recent interviews in SS and British Speedway web-site. Especially as you say, he is the defending champion. Â Understand these guys have a living to make but +30 meetings a season in the UK v the odd call up abroad. Maybe I'm missing something but appears to show a lack of respect to your full time employees and supporters. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickitov Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014  You can't put all the blame on the Riders for choosing Poland over the PLRC. It basically comes down to money.  The winner of the PLRC would claim about £3000 prize money, and third place would get about £1500.  The likes of Tungate and Allen could earn the equivalent of a podium place by scoring just 5 points in Poland. Also the Polish teams do play hard-ball. By refusing to ride they would blow any chance of a team place in 2015.  It all comes down to the fact that British Speedway is on it's knees!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) Â I'm certian that Polish fans won't be paying as much to watch the meetings as British fans - and will they really care if Allen is in their team? He has to be mentioned, simply because he's the defending title holder. Â Don't forget that the promoters and the BSPA are one and the same - if Workington think they can use contractual terms to ensure their riders appear in British events, then it should be standard across the BSPA. Â Just accepting that riders will drop out is very poor, and not questining why - but instead blindly turning up to support an event "because it's the PLRC" (my quotes, but that's the sentiment), means that you are pandering to the riders who don't care and to the BSPA who do nothing (at all, ever) about it. Â Don't get me wrong here, I do agree to a lot of what you are saying (as I have hinted at in my previous posts ), but, at the same time, I can't remember the last time we had this amount of riders pulling out of the meeting. Yes you are always going to have riders withdrawing (I'm thinking mainly through injury here), but to withdraw to ride elsewhere, does indeed 'stink.' Â What, I believe, the BSPA should do is make sure that this doesn't happen again, otherwise it will become like the ELRC. Â The only reason that I will be there on Sunday, is that I've still got a rain-off ticket from the GP Qualifier thingy up at Berwick and can't be bothered to go through the rigmarole of getting a refund! Edited September 19, 2014 by Steve Park 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 lets have a TES/NO vote via the fans feet. attending this elite P.LR.C. meeting is a joke. looks like anot so top drawerr draw. vote with your feet and stay away or face the constituencies later on in years to come .. time for the BSPA to grow some round things and run the sport for the fans/riders and if some cash is left over .give it to the van strap ons/harkness,s of the world. pig sick of this season so far.double uppers/downers /guests . mario anchollities in teams that could be taken up by brits/scots/welsh and geordies. this line up has more drop outs than a boarding school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) Â What makes it worse in the case of Olly Allen, is that he was interviewed the other day and said he had made himself unavailable all season in Poland so he could concentrate on Somerset until recently when he decided he could go over for a few Sundays and make some extra dosh - seen as he is being paid 5 times extra compared to what he is over there, so he said. Â So, to myself and no doubt other Somerset fans that now reads that earning a big pay packet in Poland is far more important than riding over here to defend your PLRC title and winning another trophy for Somerset. As I said previously, it's really disapointting after the support Olly has been given by Somerset fans this season. For once I agree with you Najjer, at the next Somerset match we can let him know what we think, see you in the pits! Nick might still win it though. Edited September 19, 2014 by oldtimer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Simple, if the BSPA are going to be seen as consistent, then these riders who choose to ride in Poland on Sunday should receive the same as Zetterstrom, time will tell.  And since when has the BSPA been consistent, apart from cock ups that is. They're lucky, at Peterborough we cant get them to ride in league matches!!! . Naughty Dodger Workington have said that all their riders contracts in 2015 will have written in them that, if they qualify, they will have to ride in the PLRC:  http://www.workingtoncomets.co/news/article.asp?id=100372 To be fair this is nothing new and it makes not one jot of difference.  Biggest problem is the pay rates they offer, it's generally much lower than the rates the clubs pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 And since when has the BSPA been consistent, apart from cock ups that is. .  Naughty Dodger  To be fair this is nothing new and it makes not one jot of difference.  Biggest problem is the pay rates they offer, it's generally much lower than the rates the clubs pay.  And since when has the BSPA been consistent, apart from cock ups that is. .  Naughty Dodger  To be fair this is nothing new and it makes not one jot of difference.  Biggest problem is the pay rates they offer, it's generally much lower than the rates the clubs pay. it makes a differance to the loyal paying fans who expect the top guys to be in the plrc. speedway is not cheap to support 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttons Posted September 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Â Simple, if the BSPA are going to be seen as consistent, then these riders who choose to ride in Poland on Sunday should receive the same as Zetterstrom, time will tell. Â I expect because there is more than one of them, the BSPA will do absolutely nothing as per usual, and as for consistency when has that word and the BSPA ever been used in the same sentence, how can you ban and fine a rider (Zetterstrom )for pulling out of the PLRC and a few years later let four or so pull out and get away with it unbelievable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbt Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 How many clubs actually have their No1 riding,granted a few are genuinely injured,so who are just missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttons Posted September 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 How many clubs actually have their No1 riding,granted a few are genuinely injured,so who are just missing? Â Rohan Tungate, Olly Allen, Claus Vissing, all prefering to ride in Poland, Bach is also missing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Rohan Tungate, Olly Allen, Claus Vissing, all prefering to ride in Poland, Bach is also missing And Kennett. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Anyone got a racecard for this, I don't fancy paying £4 for a programme with a load of mistakes in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 On the subject of programme prices, having not attended a meeting since programmes were 1/6 (you have to be old to know what 1/6 is). I was cleaned out after buying my Cardiff programme. To be fair it was somewhat better than the old 4 page West Ham copy!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Nick Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Kyle Newman replacing Ben Barker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 (edited) My advice is don't go to the PLRC, or if you do take the full page colour add for the event on the back page of this weeks Speedway Star, which states, FEATURING and then lists all the riders who are absent as taking part. Then demand reduced admission, or you will report them to the Advertising Standards Agency. Edited September 20, 2014 by oldtimer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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