Dodger Blue Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 Workington have said that all their riders contracts in 2015 will have written in them that, if they qualify, they will have to ride in the PLRC: http://www.workingtoncomets.co/news/article.asp?id=100372 They're lucky, at Peterborough we cant get them to ride in league matches!!! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 so no ban due for him then as it seems he wouldve ridden had permission not bern granted. Is it the same for the others? Would seem likely so any questions need to be at the door of the BSPA not the riders perhaps. Depending on your viewpoint the BSPA decision I suppose stems from one of weakness, pragmatism or complete indifference. The BSPA must take their share of the blame, but don't leave the clubs out of it. To many times the riders dictate what meetings they will and wont race in, maybe time has come for the clubs to take a tougher stance with the riders. If that means we don't see some of the top riders, but see virtually the same 1-7`s every week wouldn't that be better than the guest fest we have at some meetings. Workington have said that all their riders contracts in 2015 will have written in them that, if they qualify, they will have to ride in the PLRC: http://www.workingtoncomets.co/news/article.asp?id=100372 Shouldn't all clubs do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 What are you all ranting on about bans for when you say the sport is on a downward spiral.... Cant see a problem as the riders that are the replacements are a more than worthy of being in the line up!!! Stop ya bleating and get on with it.. Think you will find the food ban could be something to do with the minority dropping their rubbish from food not bought from the premises, so why should the stadium lose money from loss of food sales and have to pick the rubbish up too!!!! why should we stop bleating?? It's us the paying customers that keep the sport alive!! Is it too much to ask that once a year ( just once) the best riders in our league all turn up?? Will entry fee be reduced because their are ' lesser' riders now riding??... The more we put up and shut up the more we are taken for granted!!! We pay the same money to watch 6 man teams throughout the year, we pay the same money if we lose 1-5 heats of racing,yet the recompense if you only see 1-5 heats isn't balanced adjusted or in anyway fair... the list is endless. You might be happy to watch anything in kevlars but some arnt ... Including me!! Does that make me wrong??Would you buy a car with 2 tyres missing, would you go to a football match and watch 11 v 10 every week, would you go for a 3 course meal and be happy only to get a starter??... No you wouldn't end of. Sometimes it's unavoidable to have people missing or feel short changed, but there are more meetings with riders missing these days than there is with 2 full strength teams... Fair enough, but it's getting worse every year, and they arnt fixing it. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 Time for outside parties to run British Speedway. Too many vested interests in the BSPA. It's more like a mafia family. And Ford is the Godfather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 Majorly disapointting after what Olly Allen had said in an interview at Somerset only a couple of weeks ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 looks like olly was trying to pre warn the rebs fans without actually sating it. see you in the polish league next year olly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 And there the rub - look at the stick riders get for not riding abroad yet when they do this will occur. So if Allen Cook Worrall or whoever say no they may not be asked again and there will be plenty posting on here saying they have no ambition etc etc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 Workington have said that all their riders contracts in 2015 will have written in them that, if they qualify, they will have to ride in the PLRC: http://www.workingtoncomets.co/news/article.asp?id=100372 Yes i saw that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springdale Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 Workington have said that all their riders contracts in 2015 will have written in them that, if they qualify, they will have to ride in the PLRC: http://www.workingtoncomets.co/news/article.asp?id=100372 So it should be well done Worky Majorly disapointting after what Olly Allen had said in an interview at Somerset only a couple of weeks ago. Couldn't agree more, absolutely disgraceful sod the British League, were's the money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 But there has to be a balance - Allen isn't exactly a star of the future! Have the Polish play-offs always been on this date? Does the BSPA plan anything in advance? The Polish play off dates will have been known since the start of the season but obviously the teams in then wouldn't have been known till quite recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 The Polish play off dates will have been known since the start of the season but obviously the teams in then wouldn't have been known till quite recently. Yes-but if you take Rohan Tungate-he has ridden 1 match in Poland this year-last Sunday-so in my opinion when Gniezno came calling last week he should have told them he wasn`t available for this Sunday. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 The Polish play off dates will have been known since the start of the season but obviously the teams in then wouldn't have been known till quite recently. and the No 1 position has also switched for a few teams within the last month.Yes-but if you take Rohan Tungate-he has ridden 1 match in Poland this year-last Sunday-so in my opinion when Gniezno came calling last week he should have told them he wasn`t available for this Sunday.as per my post earlier - if he says no he may well not be asked again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Irrespective of that, why stage it the same day as Polish playoffs? Why not, for example, a Saturday night? The PLRC is supposed to be a big meeting, but it has little value if the BSPA doesn't care who rides in it. Also, isn't Allen the defending title holder? That shows what it means to him ... Scrap the PLRC, I'm sure it wouldn't be missed, and would be one less pee-up for the BSPA to fail to organise in the veritable brewing establishment. Why should we dance to a tune played in Poland, surely its up to the BSPA to choose a date for the PLRC and its not as if a Sunday date for this meeting is a new thing. I think if a rider is going to represent one of our clubs then he should do so, irrespective of what's happening with any of his other clubs, its thinking like yours that have riders treating their clubs over here the way they do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Irrespective of that, why stage it the same day as Polish playoffs? Why not, for example, a Saturday night? The PLRC is supposed to be a big meeting, but it has little value if the BSPA doesn't care who rides in it. Also, isn't Allen the defending title holder? That shows what it means to him ... Scrap the PLRC, I'm sure it wouldn't be missed, and would be one less pee-up for the BSPA to fail to organise in the veritable brewing establishment. When was the last time it was held on a Saturday night? With all the doubling up/down/sideways between PL and EL I'm sure we would have a similar situation. As far as scrapping it, as you're "sure it wouldn't be missed," lets see how many fans turn up at Sheffield on Sunday to see if, indeed it "wouldn't be missed." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie4388 Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Kennett out now. Garrity in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 The ELRC has happily been swapped around to try to accommodate rider availability. I've never been a big fan of individual racing, so it's of no consequence to me anyway, but declaring a line-up and then allowing riders to miss the event they've been named for because they've got better things to do removes a lot of the credibility - and one of them is the defending champion? That says a lot for the stature of the meeting if he can't be bothered to defend his title. If they are desperate to have the meeting, then they should wait a bit longer to decide on a who might take part ... the lack of forethought and planning is endemic in the sport. Wait for a bit longer? How long do they wait? They announced who might (as you put it) be in it just a couple of weeks ago. You will always get riders pulling out, for all sorts of reasons. Workington have (or at least will, from next season) gone about it the right way by saying "if you sign a contract with us for 2015, you will be contracted to ride in the PLRC." Obviously, we will have to wait and see what effect (if any) that may have on the event and on Workington signing riders, but very club should be saying the same thing, as the rider is representing the club, not just himself. I don't like the fact riders have had to pull out due to commitments abroad either, especially when at least one of those riders hasn't even rode for the club he'll be riding for in the Polish League Play-offs, but, until clubs take the same stance as Workington, it will continue to happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 The PLRC should be a compulsory event and those riders not attending should receive a ban. The only criteria for a rider not taking his place in the PLRC or ELRC should be injury. Riders owe an allegiance to their club and their fans, who pay to watch them week in week out. If a rider takes his pay from his club and the support from the fans and makes it to the top of his team's averages, he has a moral duty to take his place in the Championship. You would not have seen Briggo duck out of the BLRC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 In my opinion this is a disgraceful action from a number of riders, not to mention a real slap in the face to their clubs supporters. 5 withdrawals to date, still time for more. If they can't be ar$ed then why should I be. I'm so fed up with all this farcical crap and the lack of respect towards the paying punters. Think I might just give it up and stick to GP's. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 In my opinion this is a disgraceful action from a number of riders, not to mention a real slap in the face to their clubs supporters. 5 withdrawals to date, still time for more. If they can't be ar$ed then why should I be. I'm so fed up with all this farcical crap and the lack of respect towards the paying punters. Think I might just give it up and stick to GP's. No doubt the Polish fans would say the same thing if the riders turned round and said "sorry, I'm riding in an individual event in GB, so can't ride for the team I'm contracted to in the Polish League." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customhouseregular Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 No doubt the Polish fans would say the same thing if the riders turned round and said "sorry, I'm riding in an individual event in GB, so can't ride for the team I'm contracted to in the Polish League." It should not be beyond the capabilities of schedulers to programme major events so as not to clash. I did not see half the field withdraw from the recent Extraliga Riders Championship to ride in another country. If PLRC, ELRC and other countries equivalent where scheduled to either start or end the season, there should not be clashes. Poland may be the current "cash-cow" but I repeat, if a rider is contracted to a British team and tops that team's averages, he has to represent his team. Injury is the only get-out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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