brandonbee48 Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Have you already seen tomorrows match then Alan? It wasn't that bad, surely. My friend Ghostwalker has given me the result already. Seriously it will be an interesting comparison. Even as the oldest Bees fan around I have to say that was awful. I try to watch through the eyes of a first-timer- without whom we die, and I would have been totally embarrassed trying to big that one up. But, tomorrow is a new day Scarlett. All the best. Alan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Well that was a bizarre meeting I must say. What's was going on at the beginning? Did the ref just decide to put a clock on the centre green, not tell anyone about it, and then exclude riders at will? how can the home team not even know about it? Just the oddest refereeing I've ever seen. It was a frustrating performance from Swindon. In the odd race here and there we looked pretty good and gave the impression we could get back into it, only to let it all collapse again. It was shocking to see so few people at Coventry. I guess when you don't go somewhere for a few years, the drop in crowd i so much more noticeable. The seats in the stand were always full whenever I've been before, but they looked half empty. And the rest of the stadium looked like ghost town. We missed Kildermand badly, although it is quite possible riding that track and knowing how he rides, that he may have ended up on the dog track as some point anyway! But the ref was terrible. And, by the way, in the race where Nathan Greaves was excluded, both Coventry riders should have also been out as neither of them were at the tapes when the 2 minutes ended. And, if you're going to be all precious about excluding riders when the clock runs out so you can get your name mentioned on the telly then you should do it to everyone. MJJ should also have been out when Gustafsson was excluded. They should have interviewed the ref. At least Frank Ebdon came on and explained himself in the England v USA test match when he suddenly decided for himself that touching the tapes was an automatic exclusion in the days before it actually was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The H Man Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 David Robinson a born and bred Reading Racer fan! Bought up on ruffling robins feathers! Tonight he shows you can take the boy out of Reading, but you can't take Reading out of the boy! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedy swindon pete Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 I thought Swindon did quite well, all things considered, too. However, I wouldn't use that meeting as a barometer for form or team strength at all for either team, unless cov are planning on having the track like that again this season. Andersen and Jensen in particular, just didnt want to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 David Robinson a born and bred Reading Racer fan! Bought up on ruffling robins feathers! Tonight he shows you can take the boy out of Reading, but you can't take Reading out of the boy! Many a true word spoken in jest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Nick Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Unfortunately- YES. Off on Friday because of rain, then stock cars on Saturday. Result - a ploughed field with dust storms. Awful- and dangerous.Eastbourne has stocks and has never produced a track like Cov did tonight. A shocking advert for our sport 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbee Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Quite true, and I'm not disagreeing with that, but it can't be hard to prepare a consistent, fair surface that gives more if not all riders the chance to RACE, not just ride it, in confidence. Coventry's own Hans, Jensen, and Hansen, weren't even slightly interested in racing tonight. Is it any surprise to see Harris revelling in tricky, deep conditions?! Fact is, he is an incredibly rare breed, and I'd say after seeing him a few times, Garrity is one of a similar mould. But what has Harris done at places where the track is up to the standards we quite often see on the continent? Largely guff all. Its easy to say that theres no decent racing if riders aren't trying, but having tracks that we have to wait 10 heats for it to settle down first, is just not normal for a vast majority of the riders. We can bleat all we like that riders aren't brave enough or trying hard enough, but we know what most of these riders (and the bikes) are like now. Are we supposed to sit watch the fans leaving the stadiums in drove because we have to wait to the last quarter of the meeting for the action to start? And people wonder why the sport is on its arse. Fact is most riders these days are used to tracks that are consistent and decent from the first heat, to the last heat. Tonight hasn't done anyone any favours, except possibly the treasurer of the Chris Harris fan club, and his own self esteem. what you are saying is that riders of today don't know how to use the throttle .you cannot have every tack the same due to the weather riders have to ride what is put in front of them there's to much of I can't ride that its to slick or to deep get on with it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YerRopes Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 No. He shouldnt have excluded the 2 riders he did in heat 3 and should have excluded Worrall in heat 2. I dont see how this makes it some sort of moral victory for Swindon as being claimed. Who on earth is claiming a moral victory for Swindon ? Swindon lost - admittedly they had loads of riders excluded resulting in a good few heats with just 1 rider and two heats with none.. Hans time exclusion in heat 1 due to Havvy's inability to tell the time is hardly equivalent.. As I said, well done for the win.. I just want to see a good competitive and fair meeting - tonight was none of that.. The first 8/9 heats were an absolute disgrace.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Finished work at 7.30 rushed home,lets be honest what a pile of s... Speedway at times is an absolute joke.ROBINSON is he another EBDON? a total clown ruined the meeting some of his decisions were outrageous.The sport is an ENTERTAINMENT formost the ref forgot that tonight live on sky what an embarrassment for our sport.Does the sport have a word with Robinson? he was piss poor does he carry on with no word in his ear a poor night for our sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Eastbourne has stocks and has never produced a track like Cov did tonight. A shocking advert for our sport They don't use the same track though do they? Agree though that there should be no excuse, as HT says Mildenhall get it sorted and Lynn seem to have stocks or bangers every weekend nowadays and the track is nearly always like a billiard table for the speedway on the Wednesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Who on earth is claiming a moral victory for Swindon ? Swindon lost - admittedly they had loads of riders excluded resulting in a good few heats with just 1 rider and two heats with none.. thecoombdog did. The post I replied to. Again, what the hell does Swindon only have 1 (or 0) riders in some race have to do with anything? To win the race you have to complete the race, it's not good falling off or crashing a bleeting. Your riders were, with the exception of Gustafsson in one race, all rightly excluded- thats poor riding, a lack of skill. It's not bad luck, it's not "everything going against them" or the refrees fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 (edited) For people slagging off the track, the Coventry riders managed to ride it well esp Harris, Howarth and esp Garrity who was in agony. The ref though was a joke although lots of laughs at the track. Riders were scared to mess about at the gate. Felt for Coventry as were not able to grade/water track much as the ref had the red light on ASAP, hardly left time for riders to see the medical team when Garrity & Hansen got injured. Crowd lower than usual but then we have got 3 meetings in one week. Edited August 18, 2014 by mdmc82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBee Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Crap meeting, crap attitude by some riders/manager and some pretty crap riding! Great result though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 what you are saying is that riders of today don't know how to use the throttle .you cannot have every tack the same due to the weather riders have to ride what is put in front of them there's to much of I can't ride that its to slick or to deep get on with itlack of throttle control is not necessarily due to a lack of rider skill. The way a modern engine reacts is far different from the old days Im told. Much higher revs required etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoombdog Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Whats that got to do with everything going against you? You had 1 heats (heat 3, excluding Gustafsson) that was harsh. What else "went against you"? Bomber having a good meeting. Rare. 2 riders excluded in same race for an offence I have never seen punished. Garrity roller in heat 14. 2 5-0's against us. Morris/Worrall decision was correct but how rare is it to see that happening. Not saying all decisions went against us. A lot of bad luck involved as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odds On Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Great to see "the special one" playing the hard done by role again, can't believe there wasn't any tears! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YerRopes Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 (edited) thecoombdog did. The post I replied to. Again, what the hell does Swindon only have 1 (or 0) riders in some race have to do with anything? To win the race you have to complete the race, it's not good falling off or crashing a bleeting. Your riders were, with the exception of Gustafsson in one race, all rightly excluded- thats poor riding, a lack of skill. It's not bad luck, it's not "everything going against them" or the refrees fault. Do you really believe the ref got all those decisions you allude too right ? He was a joke and should be banned after that performance and I wouldn't have blamed Swindon for walking out due to track conditions and Robinson's complete incompetence.. As I said earlier, I just want to see a fair and competitive meeting and despite what you say that was mostly shocking tonight, it did get better after heat 10, but I wouldn't pay anything to watch that crap.. It is no wonder that crowds are fleeing from this sport... Edited August 18, 2014 by yerropes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 (edited) I'm gonna buck the trend . I sort of enjoyed it. Not the first 2-3 races when the ref and/or the sky clock decided to make themselves famous. I don't have an issue with 2 mins being 2 mins but at least tell the riders before the meeting (telling the team managers might have helped too). Once the track settled down there was some decent racing. True riders got caught out but if they are only used to riding on smooth as silk tracks on rocket ships they don't have the control and finesse of years past. Gustafsson, North, Harris and Howarth didn't seem to have that problem. They took stock of the track, adapted and got the rewards and so did the fans. Felt sorry for Greaves, blowing his engine before the meeting and then being ignored by the entire Swindon camp when his 2nd bike gave up the ghost. Has to be a big financial blow for a youngster, who has improved massively since the first time I saw him on track. I'd far rather watch some of those races again that the FTG rubbish served up in most of the Sky matches. Edited to add - it's always entertaining when Rosco spits his dummy, tho to be fair Robinson is a tool Edited August 18, 2014 by Star Lady 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woofers Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 ?.......... Riders were scared to mess about at the gate....... Exactly ! We don't want them messing about...fiddling with clutches and cables, digging holes, etc... we want them ready to race ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoombdog Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 thecoombdog did. The post I replied to. Again, what the hell does Swindon only have 1 (or 0) riders in some race have to do with anything? To win the race you have to complete the race, it's not good falling off or crashing a bleeting. Your riders were, with the exception of Gustafsson in one race, all rightly excluded- thats poor riding, a lack of skill. It's not bad luck, it's not "everything going against them" or the refrees fault. When did I claim a moral victory you tool? I said things i.e some decisions and luck went against us. Not getting involved with bellends like you who spoil for an argument when someone has a different opinion. You are clearly the starman of Coventry! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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