stevebrum Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 As I said on the Poole thread. Celebrities say they are taking drugs but they get away with it. Footballers get away with murder. So for 1 silly mistake just because Darcy drunk 1 to many the night before doesn't deserve a 2 year ban from all league racing. Hefty fine and a slap on the wrist issued with a final warning is enough. What about his silly mistake being involved in a rape charge? His silly mistake being in a pub fight? His silly mistake fleeing from Police when drunk and on drugs on a bike? He deserves the book throwing at him. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 His silly mistake for also having no valid licence or insurance on said bike. but thats wat kids do theses days ? proffessional speedway riders dont do that , did hancock, gundersen , nielsen , olsen , mauger do those things in there younger days ....no 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 I take it Poole will make a moral stand and not allow Darcy to ride until the result of the FIM jury. I assume they wish to make a stand against such disgraceful behaviour at a professional level?? Probably in the best interest of Poole Speedway MF should call off the meeting unttil Ward is cleared and not run against a team with many missing riders - it is surely likely to `seriously affect his business`? A call off and Poole ban for Darcy is the way forward if Poole have any morals. I seriously doubt that they even know what that means brum.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Everyone ends up in a fight whether it is at School, Work or in a public place. That was another silly mistake from fleeing the Police but Darcy served a fair punishment for that. I can see how some members are upset but Darcy wasn't even tipsy at the end of the day. Everyone ends up in a fight? That's a big generalization to make without any facts to back your statement up. I've changed my mind about you now and reckon you are KKS afterall because he/she says daft things as well just to get a reaction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttons Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 I take it Poole will make a moral stand and not allow Darcy to ride until the result of the FIM jury. I assume they wish to make a stand against such disgraceful behaviour at a professional level?? Probably in the best interest of Poole Speedway MF should call off the meeting unttil Ward is cleared and not run against a team with many missing riders - it is surely likely to `seriously affect his business`? A call off and Poole ban for Darcy is the way forward if Poole have any morals. Pigs might fly, no chance of Poole doing that it's a disgrace him still being allowed to ride, didn't Matt Ford say "one more mistake and your out " to Ward the last time he got in hot water, lookslike nothing happening there either. I wonder what would have happened if it had been a rider who is not such box office, I think we all know the answer to that one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 As I said on the Poole thread. Celebrities say they are taking drugs but they get away with it. Footballers get away with murder. So for 1 silly mistake just because Darcy drunk 1 to many the night before doesn't deserve a 2 year ban from all league racing. Hefty fine and a slap on the wrist issued with a final warning is enough. No he doesnt deserve a 2 year ban who has said that? He deserves an 8 month ban same as Danno had. A fine would be of no use what so ever and probably paid for by the Poole promotion anyway. Or probably the ' Darcy can do no wrong' club will have a collection in the interval at a meeting lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 i see the poole 'spin' has started.... comparing what darcy done to other walks of life , but being blatantly blind to what other SPEEDWAY riders have got for the same offence try comparing like for like ie speedway rider to speedway rider , not speedway rider to footballer or celeb danno got 8 months for the exact same thing no doubt the official release from the poole management will contain similar spin and comparing to other sports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 When I say fight I mean pushing or shoving fights like you see in Footy not like Gun fights or anything. If you want to think I am KKS then you are welcome to but I am not KKS I just don't think Darcy deserves a 2 year ban. lol. I didn't mean gun fights either. We're not America. Still don't think 'everyone' gets involved in one at some point in their life. For a start I don't know anyone who has ever got into a fight but there are plenty of people I could willingly stick against a wall and shoot......from the legs up......so I suppose that makes me capable as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Some members a few days ago I wont name names because it might seem like a personal attack. I just don't think Darcy deserves a ban because Celebrities admit to using drugs but they are allowed to walk free however if that was someone who wasn't famous they would probably get locked up. Footballers can do anything they like and nothing will happen so I just feel a fine is enough and plus lets be honest Darcy wasn't even tipsy. Drunk is when you cant walk straight or you cant talk properly. If Darcy was really pissed he would have had a hangover and a splitting headache throwing up all the time lol. However Darcy looked fine in the interview so perhaps Darcy is correct about not Hydrating properly. seriously please look at what you are writing before posting. Danno 8 month ban for being the same amount over the limit as Ward. If he doesnt get 8 months then there is skullduggery going on. I agree more than 8 months might be excessive but to just fine him would probably make a lot of people turn their back on the sport altogether. Of course celebs do drugs. Ive no doubt that footballers and maybe some riders do as well. Celebs and football players get pissed as well. Darcy Ward can drink as much as he wants when he hasnt got to race. A celeb or footballer can drink as much as they like when they dont have to perform. The fact is when you have a professional job to do you should not be under the influence its not even an opinion. Darcy wasnt and deserves to be banned. Didnt Rio Ferdinand get an 8 month ban for missing a test? Wasnt even found to be on anything yet still got banned so your arguments dont really hold up. If a footballer was breath tested before a game do you not think they would get banned if over the limit? Jockeys get banned for being drunk before a meeting and not allowed to ride. I suggest before you post comments do a bit of research 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 (edited) i see the poole 'spin' has started.... comparing what darcy done to other walks of life , but being blatantly blind to what other SPEEDWAY riders have got for the same offence try comparing like for like ie speedway rider to speedway rider , not speedway rider to footballer or celeb danno got 8 months for the exact same thing no doubt the official release from the poole management will contain similar spin and comparing to other sports Any official release from Poole will take into account the FIM ruling. After all its not directly a Poole matter or a BSPA matter, anymore than its a Torun or Piraterna issue!! Indirectly yes! As I've put on another thread, the Danno situation was different in that he had 'previous' with the FIM, which MAY have affected his punishment?! Edited August 20, 2014 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherborne Green Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 As I have said before the matter is in the hands of the FIM. Are you suggesting Matt Ford controls them? With regard to the match today Poole can not be seen to take any stance until the FIM give their ruling. All you people who make statements that Poole should make a stance I would say to them a) would the owners of the club you support drop one of their riders who has not broken their contract? Also, what is the legal stance for this, would they be allowed to take a riders living away from him unless he has broken his contract. They would not be allowed any facility until the FIM ruling is delivered. I understand the feelings that are being expressed but we must all wait on the FIM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Oh lol. I should have put most not everyone. Not me I hope lol Oh no, don't worry you're safe. My hatred is towards murderers, abusers of animals and suchlike. I could easily free up a load of prison cells. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Everyone ends up in a fight whether it is at School, Work or in a public place. That was another silly mistake from fleeing the Police but Darcy served a fair punishment for that. I can see how some members are upset but Darcy wasn't even tipsy at the end of the day. Edit: When I say fight I don't mean violent fights with weapons. I mean pushing or shoving fights. I should have worded that comment better. NO THEY DON'T. Please don't generalise. I have never been involved in a fight at school or in the work place. So please do not speak for me and the vast majority of law and rule abiding citizens. You clearly want to defend Darcy and feel he shouldn't be banned. You are in the minority, coupled with a few blind Poole fans. I seriously doubt that they even know what that means brum.. Pigs might fly, no chance of Poole doing that it's a disgrace him still being allowed to ride, didn't Matt Ford say "one more mistake and your out " to Ward the last time he got in hot water, lookslike nothing happening there either. I wonder what would have happened if it had been a rider who is not such box office, I think we all know the answer to that one. Poole say one thing when they mean another. They are basically saying Ward can flout the rules because as a club that is what they stand for - as Middlo confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 If you care to read the edit I have put most not everyone now because I should have worded it better. Poole this Poole that. The situation has NOTHING to do with Matt Ford, Neil Middleditch or Poole speedway. If you want to jump on the Poole band wagon again then you should also say its TORUN'S and PIRATERNA'S fault as well. Yep I am defending Darcy by saying that Darcy should get a hefty fine and a slap on the wrist. And your edit is still wrong. MOST do NOT get into fights. If you care to read my posts properly i have already slated his other clubs for not banning him until the results of the FIM jury. So this situation has one heck of a lot to do with Poole/Middlo/MF. They could CHOOSE to make a stand, but they, like his other clubs, think its OK to fail tests and still not be punished. You clearly believe that one rule applies to other riders and a different set apply to Darcy. It was clear all along you were defending Darcy despite you saying you weren't. Its up to you if you think rules should be applied differently to different riders and teams. Too many condone rule breaking and cheating in this great sport of ours. At least you have made that point crystal clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 (edited) Darcy rode in Sweden last night so its no different from Darcy riding for Poole tonight. Why make a stand if it was crystal clear then Darcy would have been banned by now but Darcy wont because Darcy just didn't hydrate properly. I have never heard of Danno until today so I cant comment on a situation I don't know anything about. Who has made rule break or cheated in this situation. You cant comment on a situation you didnt know anything about?? A Speedway rider in 2000 failed a breath test in the GP was banned for 8 months. FACT You think the same FIM rules do not apply to exactly the same offence??? Do you??? Darcy is know to drink a lot, as his other offences make evidence. Hydration is nothing to do with it. You are making excuses. Edited August 20, 2014 by stevebrum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Darcy does like a party but who doesn't at his age. I am just saying if you were to talk to Darcy that day you wouldn't have any clue that Darcy had been drinking the night before because Darcy seemed fine. (Not you personally talking to Darcy just in general anyone talking to Darcy). Unless you talked to him you wouldn't know and that's just your own speculation. Here you go again, tarring every 22 year old with the same brush. Tai leads a clean, healthy, focused and professional life and is 24. He has chosen this path to get to the summit in his sport. Darcy clearly wants to drink and party every night. So if you get caught out trying to race and are over the limit you cant think that much of your career in the first place. And shouldn't ask for any sympathy. People like you it seems can see no wrong, so i`m ashamed to be classed a fellow Speedway supporter right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 That's rich coming from you. Every time I log in you are either arguing with a fellow member or you have gone into Poole mode. Says the person who claims they didn't say one thing one minute then admits they did the next. Anyway, i know where i stand with you now so i am happy to move along and not take too much notice to your posts anymore. You are likely to change your mind at any time the minute you are challenged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Disgraceful. But as expected by the Poole promotion. As I posted elsewhere it's an FIM offence and up to them to issue punishment or not first. Any action by Poole of any other club Darcy rides for could be seen as prejudicial. Any official release from Poole will take into account the FIM ruling. After all its not directly a Poole matter or a BSPA matter, anymore than its a Torun or Piraterna issue!! Indirectly yes! Never thought we would see eye to eye The fault is the FIMs. They should have banned Darcy until his hearing that way all his clubs would have known where they stood. As it is they could issue a statement at 1915 tonight banning Darcy with Poole due to rider 15 minutes later. That would be grossly unfair to Poole who are innocent in this particular affair. Good lord I've just agreed with Skidder and stuck up for Poole - I need a lie down 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 As I posted elsewhere it's an FIM offence and up to them to issue punishment or not first. Any action by Poole of any other club Darcy rides for could be seen as prejudicial. Never thought we would see eye to eye The fault is the FIMs. They should have banned Darcy until his hearing that way all his clubs would have known where they stood. As it is they could issue a statement at 1915 tonight banning Darcy with Poole due to rider 15 minutes later. That would be grossly unfair to Poole who are innocent in this particular affair. Good lord I've just agreed with Skidder and stuck up for Poole - I need a lie down That is a fair point SL. It would be nice for his clubs to ALL make a stand to ensure he gets the message it was the wrong thing to do! Common sense should have prevailed, but it seems that the FIM are as headless as the BSPA - now that IS a tragedy for Speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Not really. We knew where we stood with each other from Day 1. Absolutely. It has been confirmed what i thought today. Thanks for confirming what i believed all along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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