Lioness Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 Some clubs who have paid hospitality guests or matchday sponsors admit these people through the staff gate. Pehaps some of the alleged freeloaders fall into the above categories ? Perfectly true cyclone but when you see the same freeloaders going in week in week out with their mates and know fine well they dont fall into that category it is hard to swallow. Especially when they have been known to post 'I once did such and such.... so why should I pay....' Olly Allen was superb pet , Lunchy was looking for you . but i didn't see you in your usual bit I wish I had known! It would have been nice to see him again. I was at my usual bit, just me and Davey there today. Hope he's well Im sure you will have treated him to your usual hospitality! I must be in the half that don't know along with my usual crew. So just in case the club or Directors don't know either, it would make sense to communicate it to them rather than assume they are aware of it. No harm in it but I refer the honorable gentleman to my first reply about this on page 5.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted August 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 Despite us losing , i thoroughly enjoyed the racing today . Good luck to the Rebels when it comes to the nitty gritty stuff against The Smugs in the play offs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeyin Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Two points here , The danish boys have been paying their own flights all season and perhaps at the start of the season thought they could manage it , but with so many rain offs it has become crucial financially for Anders and he has had to make a hard decision, I wish him all the best for the future and have enjoyed watching his outside blasts. second point is a bout freeloaders, I am sure there are quite a few that get in free, but at the back gate, your name must be on the list to get in, as for seeing lots of people going in that way , perhaps they have a season ticket as I often go in that way with my season ticket if I am there early Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 How did Pavlova get on? A race win was unexpected. Decent time too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 If you take him for what he is and not for the unrealisitic position Glasgow's situation/promotion have thrust him into he is imo doing well. He has never ever looked off the pace, tries hard and is learning from others. For a reserve - which is what he should be - in his first few meetings in the PL to be the only rider to lower Kurtz's colours (albeit with Rusty's help) I reckon is pretty decent going 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 For a reserve - which is what he should be - in his first few meetings in the PL to be the only rider to lower Kurtz's colours (albeit with Rusty's help) I reckon is pretty decent going No, the 7 point averages says he should be a heatleader. So he should be beating Kurtz who come in on a 5 (although that should have been a 7 - but even so, beating Kurtz should not be the bench mark for a 7 point rider) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted August 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 That's nonsense even for you . Everyone knew Kurtz could be better than a 5 pointer , Somerset were taking the piss trying for a 3 . And yesterday Kurtz looked a very decent PL heatleader . The only reason Palovaara is a 7 is because he's Swedish . We know from experience there's a lot of dross in Scandanavian speedway and his points scoring over there is taken with a pinch of salt . So for Viktor to beat Kurtz yesterday was a feather in his cap , and who knows it might be the starting point for him 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 No, the 7 point averages says he should be a heatleader. So he should be beating Kurtz who come in on a 5 (although that should have been a 7 - but even so, beating Kurtz should not be the bench mark for a 7 point rider) Aye right SCB ven you know thats guff. The rules say he is a 7 pointer (fair enough) and thats what he comes in as but he is a kid setting out in the sport and unlike some I can be realistic and see the proper picture. I'm sure you are enjoying the 'bites' tho because even you arent blind enough to believe what you are trying to spout here! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Two points here , The danish boys have been paying their own flights all season and perhaps at the start of the season thought they could manage it , but with so many rain offs it has become crucial financially for Anders and he has had to make a hard decision, I wish him all the best for the future and have enjoyed watching his outside blasts. second point is a bout freeloaders, I am sure there are quite a few that get in free, but at the back gate, your name must be on the list to get in, as for seeing lots of people going in that way , perhaps they have a season ticket as I often go in that way with my season ticket if I am there early Reading this I am wondering if I have been harsh on Anders. Knowing that he pays his own airfares its no wonder he has found it hard to make progress he must just have been keeping his head above water financially never mind investing in better equipment to kick on! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTLAND1314 Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 That's nonsense even for you . Everyone knew Kurtz could be better than a 5 pointer , Somerset were taking the piss trying for a 3 . And yesterday Kurtz looked a very decent PL heatleader . The only reason Palovaara is a 7 is because he's Swedish . We know from experience there's a lot of dross in Scandanavian speedway and his points scoring over there is taken with a pinch of salt . So for Viktor to beat Kurtz yesterday was a feather in his cap , and who knows it might be the starting point for him Victor P will come good. No problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaleshifter Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 (edited) Reading all the posting concerning the Glasgow team and lack of atmosphere at Ashfield is very sad. I was up in Berwick and Scotland over the weekend and attended all 3 of the Somerset Rebels meetings. The issue i see is that at Ashfield the facilities are very basic in a badly run down stadium that i believe has suffered several break ins and arson damage over the past few seasons. The promoters are not getting enough fans to attend due to several reasons. Firstly the adverse weather conditions over the season culminatong in meetings being called off, also a team that has miss fired more often then not adding to the fact that there is only a hardcore fan base. I read a few weeks ago in the Speedway-Star that James Grieves stated that when Glasgow left Shawfield they lost a lot of fans in the process. Would Glasgow be better supported if the sport returned to Shawfield Stadium? On a last note i enjoyed the meeting at Ashfield plenty of entertainment and some good close racing. Edited August 19, 2014 by Shaleshifter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Unless someone wins the lottery and buys Shawfield, no chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 I read a few weeks ago in the Speedway-Star that James Grieves stated that when Glasgow left Shawfield they lost a lot of fans in the process. Would Glasgow be better supported if the sport returned to Shawfield Stadium? Fans were disappearing long before we left Shawfield hence the move to Ashfield for cheaper rent. Some people never migrated up to Ashfield due the areas' notorious reputation. Whilst Ashfield is a depressing ramshackle, Shawfield or the main stand has been renovated. It became very run down during the 2000's, like the area round about it whilst the new route for the M74 extension was chosen. However the area to the north and west of Shawfield are being regenerated with new roads and housing, and it is now right next to the motorway. I'm sure we could generate better crowds if we moved back there. From marketing during Alun Biggarts season they found very few fans came from Glasgow, Lanarkshire was the main base. However there was animosity when Glasgow left Shawfield and if we couldn't afford the rent then could we now? During the housing boom in the mid 2000's Glasgow were given notice to leave Ashfield and got a flat no about returning to Shawfield. However that was then, Shawfield must only be running Greyhound racing 2 or 3 nights a week, possibly there could be mutual benefit for both parties in Glasgow returning assuming a deal could be struck on the rent. Or maybe I'm getting carried away with thinking about going to a home match with even basic facilities! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Fans were disappearing long before we left Shawfield hence the move to Ashfield for cheaper rent. Some people never migrated up to Ashfield due the areas' notorious reputation. Whilst Ashfield is a depressing ramshackle, Shawfield or the main stand has been renovated. It became very run down during the 2000's, like the area round about it whilst the new route for the M74 extension was chosen. However the area to the north and west of Shawfield are being regenerated with new roads and housing, and it is now right next to the motorway. I'm sure we could generate better crowds if we moved back there. From marketing during Alun Biggarts season they found very few fans came from Glasgow, Lanarkshire was the main base. However there was animosity when Glasgow left Shawfield and if we couldn't afford the rent then could we now? During the housing boom in the mid 2000's Glasgow were given notice to leave Ashfield and got a flat no about returning to Shawfield. However that was then, Shawfield must only be running Greyhound racing 2 or 3 nights a week, possibly there could be mutual benefit for both parties in Glasgow returning assuming a deal could be struck on the rent. Or maybe I'm getting carried away with thinking about going to a home match with even basic facilities! I think they have put in Pylons, for floodlights for the dog track, inside the dog track and on the speedway track/centre green. They would have to be moved and relocated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 You beat me to that Tsunami. My recollection of recent Shawfield is that what would have been the track houses some pretty substantial foundings and supports for pylons and lighting stanchions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 Anyway , i thought the racing today was top drawer stuff . . Racing at Glasgow in 2014 has been the best I have ever seen it there - indeed, Glasgow v Plymouth is one of the best matches I have seen this season anywhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highroad119 Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 (edited) Thing is we are be treated to some great meetings as others have said, and before they went up in flames the portakabins provided the decent basic essentials we required, sure the stadiums seen better days, but i would rather have good racing above all else. also worried about the lack of youngsters attending now. During Shane Parker reign we had loads of kids waiting for autographs off their heroes, now theres barely a soul waiting at the tunnel entrance after racing. Edited August 21, 2014 by highroad119 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 I was in Scotland in May for a non-speedway event and would have loved to see Ashfield again but the 3 pm start time clashed with the event I was attending. Thankfully I was able to get to Armadale on the Friday. There's always too many things going on on Sundays for me, and I suspect for quite a few others. I haven't seen Ashfield since the portakabin fire but thought it a good, basic stadium, certainly by comparison with the Blantyres. Shawfield was an impressive venue and clearly on the right side of the city if there is a Lanarkshire bias in the Tigers' support. It's a heck of a gamble though given they're struggling to even make Ashfield pay and this isn't really a good time to take risks in the sport, no matter how great the potential win might be. Is there the money to take that risk, especially if significant cost were needed to get back in there? I wish the answer was yes because speedway and Shawfield seemed an ideal fit when I visited it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 (edited) Lets go back to Shawfield. So what do we need? Dressing room and showers, check. Pits, check. Safety fence, check. New track size, check. Pay rent, check. That's all. Wait a minute can we afford a team? Edited August 21, 2014 by tyretrax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 Lets go back to Shawfield. So what do we need? Dressing room and showers, check. Pits, check. Safety fence, check. New track size, check. Pay rent, check. That's all. Wait a minute can we afford a team? Just get the riders to pay their own airfares! Oh, and make sure no one is getting in the back gate for free. If only we could have Shawfield like facilities again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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