screm Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 WE have the same thing at my works, instant dismisale for drinks abd drugs. But I think everybody should wait and see what happens before we judge the young lad. Seems Dudek is quite confident that he will be back racing sooner rather than later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Is that a "Bernie Ecclestone"? No punishment if you're rich enough to pay a "bribe"? Saw yesterday the bank invovled in the Ecclestone matter has refused to accept £20 million settlement - so be interesting where it goes next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Turner Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 I spent a short spell working at Curry's a few years ago over Christmas and had the pleasure of serving Darcy Ward. He came in to buy an electric coffee grinder, and only an electric coffee grinder! I had a look out the shop window as he was leaving and his van was surrounded by about 15 young men. 3 Guesses as to what that grinder was for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Was it only 2 years yes I wonder why he never made a comeback as he did progress very fast I thought i think he didnt pay the fine and so his ban starts from when/if he pays the fine. Dunno if he's doing any other motorcycle sport but you would think a ban would cover all sports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Was it only 2 years yes I wonder why he never made a comeback as he did progress very fast I thought the ban started from wwhen the fine was paid . he never paid the fine so even today he has a 2 year ban in place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 I spent a short spell working at Curry's a few years ago over Christmas and had the pleasure of serving Darcy Ward. He came in to buy an electric coffee grinder, and only an electric coffee grinder! I had a look out the shop window as he was leaving and his van was surrounded by about 15 young men. 3 Guesses as to what that grinder was for? 15 cups of coffee. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 plus his cuppa so that makes 16 cups of coffee. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Seems Dudek is quite confident that he will be back racing sooner rather than later. The found substance from Dudek is very common stimulant. In 2012 it was the most common stimulant to be found in doping tests. Also the same drug is what caused the german biathlonist SachenbauerSteele to fail her test in Sothsi. Timo Seppälä from Finnish Antidoping says that it's not that powerful, but in LARGE quantities it gives some benefit. Also used with cofein (while drinking coffee) it's a big risk with brains and heart. Also very common to get this substance from legit supplements, as they are manufactured on the same labs and conveyoers as the "illegal" ones. Cant see any reason why a speedway rider would benefit from it, though one Polish article mentions (via google trasnlation) "afterburner"... So maybe he's used it to keep control of his weight? Which seems to be non-excistent anyway, So basically, Dudek might walk free if he has a good enough story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Was it only 2 years yes I wonder why he never made a comeback as he did progress very fast I thoughtHe never paid the fine that was imposed,and the ban was extended I believe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 He never paid the fine that was imposed,and the ban was extended I believe. I think that fine remains un-paid, and while it does there is no chance of a return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Well if you worked in a chemist giving people potentially life saving medicine or in a high end boutique, being drunk could affect someone's health or cost a fortune through mistakes being made. Or if you're a bus / taxi driver / pilot the consequences don't bear thinking about. Unless you think it's ok to turn up drunk to work that is ? So you want to test everyone, everyday, when they turn up for work. It may come as a surprise to you, but 99.99% of people don't need or want their lives supervised to do what's right. Your final line will be treated with the contempt it deserves.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Neil Middleditch said: “It is what most young people do these days isn't it? He wasn't racing or putting anyone else's life at risk on the track." lol brilliant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 as mr middleditch said one.. its speedway not tiddlywinks. so its ok to take BANNED substances is it. i was young once . but didnt take substsances to enhance or enjoy my lifestyle..the speed that middlo talks, maybe he should take a test.. off now to take some .. tea.. remember . speedway is a contact sport.according to the fast speaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 You seem to have this ongoing fasination with Neil Middleditch and Matt Ford... Next you'l be telling us all your a secret Poole fan.. you need to realise that when you have a clown of a manager who makes moronic comments on twitter that from time to time it will keep popping back up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 ...one Polish article mentions (via google trasnlation) "afterburner".. Isn't there an energy drink, similar to Red Bull called "Afterburner"? Who knows what goes into some energy drinks. If it is an energy drink I doubt if Monster or Red Bull will think too kindly of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 At the end of the day, each and every athlete is responsible for what goes inside their body, and by athlete I don't just mean track and field, so Dudek is responsible for taking whatever he has been alleged to have taken, innocently or not. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 It's all very well but if you have a minor illness by the time you research the banned substance list and find something to relieve the symptoms you will be very poorly indeed. Like a lot of these things there is a very large grey area to trap the unwary and the banned substance list is a minefield. Some of the most unlikely medications could see you banned from working, it's not as simple as taking a breathalyser like many companies do now. Unlike most sports Speedway riders don't tend to have medical experts on their team to offer advice either, Speedway medics tend to specialise in injuries. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Hunter Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 It's all very well but if you have a minor illness by the time you research the banned substance list and find something to relieve the symptoms you will be very poorly indeed. Like a lot of these things there is a very large grey area to trap the unwary and the banned substance list is a minefield. Some of the most unlikely medications could see you banned from working, it's not as simple as taking a breathalyser like many companies do now. That's a fair point. Didn't Rob Woffinden cop a ban once, and it turned out he'd taken nothing more than some LemSip (or some such cold remedy)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTC38L Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 (edited) Isn't there an energy drink, similar to Red Bull called "Afterburner"? Who knows what goes into some energy drinks. If it is an energy drink I doubt if Monster or Red Bull will think too kindly of it. afterburner is pre workout supplement. The whole sports supplement industry is pretty dodgy. Many products have had to be removed from sale as they have been caught lying about the contents. Not to long ago one pre workout supplement was found to contain a synthetic form of meth amphetamines. Edited August 10, 2014 by sm00th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 (edited) Also worth adding that the "drug" in question is used under half a dozen different names and is rarely mentioned on the side of the bottle. This from the interview of the earlier mentioned Seppälä.Seppälä has been doing Finnish Antidoping for decades, and doesnt take things lightly, never seen him smile and he's always on tv when an athlete gives a positive sample. So I find that if and when he says it could have been an accident or contaminated legal supplement, there's a POSSIBILITY that Dudek just had loads of bad luck. Edited August 10, 2014 by f-s-p 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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