Marksman Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 You can't account for the weather, but we haven't exactly made it easy for ourselves. How on earth we are expecting to fit in 18 meetings in 30 days starting next Saturday is beyond me, Just look at June where we had 3 League meetings scheduled (Home and Away) and one of those was abandoned! Not exactly good planning is it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 all the blame can not be put on workington promotion somerset rain off when somerset locals say no rain atall apart from small shower in afternoon and others who dont want to run on the night originaly schedualed because they are washing there hair or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lucan Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 If matches are not completed before the cut off what happens to the points?  If the matches are not run by the cut off point then yes, I would assume Fromafar's quote would be correct, the top six as it stood at that time would contest the play off, anyone well short of league fixtures completed would still have to make every reasonable attempt to fulfill them but it would be irrelevant if you managed to get enough points as a result to finish in that top six as it would already have been decided?  Was it Redcar who fell foul of that rule a season or two back, sure someone has fairly recently?  As for not fulfilling the matches themselves well, that's another issue, heavy fine per match missed maybe?  the prem league does not play second fiddle to the elite when riders double up the club who owns the riders contract gets first call regardless of what league they ride in just as it should be the problem is theres too many riders on loan rather than clubs using riders signed on full contracts  Like us you mean!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northyorksbear Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014  If the matches are not run by the cut off point then yes, I would assume Fromafar's quote would be correct, the top six as it stood at that time would contest the play off, anyone well short of league fixtures completed would still have to make every reasonable attempt to fulfill them but it would be irrelevant if you managed to get enough points as a result to finish in that top six as it would already have been decided?  Was it Redcar who fell foul of that rule a season or two back, sure someone has fairly recently?  As for not fulfilling the matches themselves well, that's another issue, heavy fine per match missed maybe?   Like us you mean!!  Redcar actually benefitted last season as match at Rye was called off and Redcar finished above Leicester on match points, caused Lions fans and management to really spit their dummies out!!  As it turned out we got result in rearranged match anyway  Bit of a long shot but Redcar may just benefit this season as we have points in the bag and weather for next few weeks is horrendous. Really is farcical if Redcar and/or Newcastle qualify due to others not getting matches in - but promoters can only look at themselves if they agreed to have a load of blank weeks !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 match off again workington speedway is just becoming a joke  The Workington promotion can control many things, but even they cant control the weather, the whole of the northern half of the Country is feeling the after affects of a hurricane that has come over the Atlantic, Glasgow is off, Newcastle is off, it is no surprise that Workington is off. Have you ever considered just how much each one of these rain offs is costing the promotion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 (edited) Rye House won the PL play offs in 2005 after being 4th by the cut off date. Birmingham eventually finished above us after they'd completed their rained off fixtures. I assume nothings changed (apart from Rye House no longer being play off contenders) Edited August 10, 2014 by Shadders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 (edited) Â The Workington promotion can control many things, but even they cant control the weather, the whole of the northern half of the Country is feeling the after affects of a hurricane that has come over the Atlantic, Glasgow is off, Newcastle is off, it is no surprise that Workington is off. Have you ever considered just how much each one of these rain offs is costing the promotion. what is it costing screm?? Edited August 10, 2014 by Arson fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted August 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 http://www.workingtoncomets.co/news/article.asp?id=100342 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenway Bleachers Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 The curse of the medics comes back to bite, or is that jag! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 http://www.workingtoncomets.co/news/article.asp?id=100342 Â Could the author of post 19 be pointed in the direction of this piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lucan Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014  Redcar actually benefitted last season as match at Rye was called off and Redcar finished above Leicester on match points, caused Lions fans and management to really spit their dummies out!!  As it turned out we got result in rearranged match anyway  Bit of a long shot but Redcar may just benefit this season as we have points in the bag and weather for next few weeks is horrendous. Really is farcical if Redcar and/or Newcastle qualify due to others not getting matches in - but promoters can only look at themselves if they agreed to have a load of blank weeks !!  Thank's for clearing that up mate, knew Redcar were in there somewhere!!   The Workington promotion can control many things, but even they cant control the weather, the whole of the northern half of the Country is feeling the after affects of a hurricane that has come over the Atlantic, Glasgow is off, Newcastle is off, it is no surprise that Workington is off. Have you ever considered just how much each one of these rain offs is costing the promotion.  No they cant, but they can see the same weather forecast as we all did from several days before and at least try and come up with a plan B? Many of the problems concerning the Comets is this total lack of upfront information being divulged asap to the paying punters, if everyone with an interest in the sport was kept in the loop things wouldn't be half as bad for the promotion as it currently is, might not appease many but at least you would have some idea of what was going on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Could the author of post 19 be pointed in the direction of this piece.Post 19 seems to be fair comment. The fixture pile-up situation (and remember it hasn't been a particularly wet summer) is an entirely predictable outcome of more and more riders doubling up and teams being reluctant to re-arrange fixtures with key riders missing. Promoters get slated for agreeing to fixtures when they have riders missing, they get slated for not finding a suitable date - they can't win.  BUT they agreed last winter to the explosion of doubling (and tripling) up that has contributed to this.  (There are other factors such as the calling off of matches on the strength of slightly iffy forecasts, and a proliferation of situations where guests are not allowed for absent riders [more of an EL problem]) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lucan Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Just had a quick squint at that external link taken from the Comets website, all it proves to me is that information that could have alleviated some of the concerns of supporters has been known about for ages yet as per normal it has to hit the fan before a statement over the situation is brought out? While I would never be a promoter the one thing I hope our current set up has done is learn the lessons of signing up too many double/triple up riders, changing fixture dates/ rain offs hasn't helped us at all this year and could very well see us winning matches, finishing high up the table yet have no chance of ever being Champions!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brylcream boy Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Can Worky run during the week or do outside factors prevent this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Post 19 seems to be fair comment. The fixture pile-up situation (and remember it hasn't been a particularly wet summer) is an entirely predictable outcome of more and more riders doubling up and teams being reluctant to re-arrange fixtures with key riders missing. Â Promoters get slated for agreeing to fixtures when they have riders missing, they get slated for not finding a suitable date - they can't win. Â BUT they agreed last winter to the explosion of doubling (and tripling) up that has contributed to this. Â (There are other factors such as the calling off of matches on the strength of slightly iffy forecasts, and a proliferation of situations where guests are not allowed for absent riders [more of an EL problem]) Â Â All perfectly fair, but in this instance the question remains, how could the Workington possibly control all the incoming bad weather to miss Workington. Fair enough the weather forecast has had this rain in it for a few days now but at the time of agreeing this date with Scunthorpe nobody could've known the weather for the day of the meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lucan Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 (edited) Can Worky run during the week or do outside factors prevent this? Â We have ran before on Friday, Saturday, Sunday and in one extreme year think we did have a run on Wednesday, it would be down to Council/ RL club agreement but as the stadium is outside the town centre a lot would be down to whom/what would be available on any of those days to be able to run a meeting? Edited August 10, 2014 by Lord Lucan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Post 19 seems to be fair comment. The fixture pile-up situation (and remember it hasn't been a particularly wet summer) is an entirely predictable outcome of more and more riders doubling up and teams being reluctant to re-arrange fixtures with key riders missing. Promoters get slated for agreeing to fixtures when they have riders missing, they get slated for not finding a suitable date - they can't win. BUT they agreed last winter to the explosion of doubling (and tripling) up that has contributed to this. (There are other factors such as the calling off of matches on the strength of slightly iffy forecasts, and a proliferation of situations where guests are not allowed for absent riders [more of an EL problem]) I agree with your point regarding doubling up ,The Promoters just make it more complicated every year.Dont things will change for the better in the near future though.They don't seem to understand the the average fan just want to see 7 riders that ride for their Team.,not for every Team in the League. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 how long can worky keep this get out of jail card working medicgate,rain offs and so forth). i understand we are only cancelling meetings so we can get a full 1 to 7 back up and running again. then we are going to run every fri/sat and sunday to cram the fixtures in. if we ever get to 6th place and a team below us are our visitors and they need an away win to topple us fron a play off place. we are going to throw in the old health and safty issue or power failure thing.lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Can Worky run during the week or do outside factors prevent this? workington can run any night aslong as stadium is available remember its a rugby club that also runs speedway so the rugby has first call Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Off thread I know but this is the most recent Workington thread, as everyone knows Workington will now be coming over to race at Berwick on Wednesday September 10th. Admission on that night will be £10, however anyone with a rain-off ticket from the original fixture can use it, also, there will be a free programme on the night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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