Scunthorpe Scorpions Vs Peterborough Panthers (pl) - Friday, August 8th (7.30pm)

[lucifer sam]

I notice that Racers & Royals was very selective in which part of the rule he quoted. Just gone and looked at the FULL rule, and this is what Racers & Royals decided not to quote:

 

16.5.1 A Team may utilise a "Facility" to cover the absence of a Rider(s) who:

C is recalled with prior notification, by his FMN for compulsory International or National Championship duty.

 

Now then, haven't the ACU told David to miss the Scunthorpe meeting to ride on international duty?

 

Looks perfectly legal to me.

 

All the best

Rob

[racers and royals]

I would like to thank David for taking the time and trouble to put his point of view across. Putting aside the riders viewpoint for one minute-we are talking about the long track qualification series here -and I`m pretty sure that facilities have not been granted for riders missing the 2 qualifaction rounds leading up to this challenge final-yet suddenly we have facilities granted for the challenge-this is not the recognised "long track championships" which are run over 5 rounds-which David is taking part in.

Edited August 7, 2014 by racers and royals

[screm]

Nonsense, The rules are being broken.

 

I'm boycotting this match.

 

Perhaps you could go to the Czech Republic with Mr Howe, and having taken you he could leave you.

[screm]

I would like to thank David for taking the time and trouble to put his point of view across. Putting aside the riders viewpoint for one minute-we are talking about the long track qualification series here -and I`m pretty sure that facilities have not granted for riders missing the 2 qualifaction rounds leading up to this challenge final-yet suddenly we have facilities granted for the challenge-this is not the recognised "long track championships" which are run over 5 rounds-which David is taking part in.

 

Absolutely, maybe more riders should do the same, though looking at some of their efforts on Twitter its quite apparent most wouldn't be able to put forward any kind of coherent argument without taking to obscenities. Unlike David Howe who put forward an excellent response.

[racers and royals]

I notice that Racers & Royals was very selective in which part of the rule he quoted. Just gone and looked at the FULL rule, and this is what Racers & Royals decided not to quote:

 

16.5.1 A Team may utilise a "Facility" to cover the absence of a Rider(s) who:

C is recalled with prior notification, by his FMN for compulsory International or National Championship duty.

 

Now then, haven't the ACU told David to miss the Scunthorpe meeting to ride on international duty?

 

Looks perfectly legal to me.

 

All the best

Rob

I think we both know that that rule is a "speedway rule " and that long-track is adequately covered by the rule I have quoted

[lucifer sam]

I think we both know that that rule is a "speedway rule " and that long-track is adequately covered by the rule I have quoted

 

But it doesn't mention what it applies to. You have to go by the actual rule, you're trying to add bits which aren't there. C can apply to Longtrack as easily as it could Speedway.

 

Scunny have followed the rulebook - simple as.

 

All the best

Rob

[LagutaRacingFan]

Lasse Bjerre is riding tomorrow.

 

1. Bjerre

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3. Dryml

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6. Jacobs

7. Barrett

[racers and royals]

But it doesn't mention what it applies to. You have to go by the actual rule, you're trying to add bits which aren't there. C can apply to Longtrack as easily as it could Speedway.

 

Scunny have followed the rulebook - simple as.

 

All the best

Rob

You are just being silly-these are the "speedway regulations " and it just needs one rule to cover long-track championships-every other long-track meeting cannot be considered under the regulations I repeat facilities are only considered for the "long track championships " if you can`t see that then you have been brainwashed by MR G. Edited August 7, 2014 by racers and royals

[lucifer sam]

You are just being silly-these are the "speedway regulations " and it just needs one rule to cover long-track championships-every other long-track meeting cannot be considered under the regulations I repeat facilities are only considered for the "long track championships " if you can`t see that then you have been brainwashed by MR G.

 

I'm afraid you simply don't understand how the rulebook works - it's only necessary to fulfil one of those criteria to be able to use a facility, not all of them.

 

If you are going to start quoting the rulebook, try and get it right. In this case, some of your earlier posts were misleading. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and put it down to lack of understanding, rather than a deliberate attempt to mislead.

 

At the end of the day, Scunny are using a facility, and are doing so legally. If you can't see that, even after the clear explanation by David Howe, then I slightly despair.

 

All the best

Rob

[EC Rides Again]

_{A real shame that it's two "Select" sides on Friday.}

 

_{The KO Cup fixture on Bank Holiday Monday was a cracker. Half the riders form that one are missing. Odds against me making the trip I'm afraid.}

Edited August 7, 2014 by EC Rides Again

[LagutaRacingFan]

Fingers crossed for a rain off

[bigcatdiary]

Still think the weather could win this one

[montie]

Still think the weather could win this one

looking at the forecast just now and you could be right

[Bagpuss]

Nice to have a bit of transparency, something sadly lacking in speedway.

[Long Eye]

You are just being silly-these are the "speedway regulations " and it just needs one rule to cover long-track championships-every other long-track meeting cannot be considered under the regulations I repeat facilities are only considered for the "long track championships " if you can`t see that then you have been brainwashed by MR G.

Do you practice being dumb or is it a natural gift? The meeting is an official FIM Championship qualifying event.

[racers and royals]

Do you practice being dumb or is it a natural gift? The meeting is an official FIM Championship qualifying event.

So were the 2 qualifiers at Bielefeld and Tayac- did teams get a facility for riders missing for them ?? I would check Rye House v Workington on July 5th same day as Tayac to see what facility Rye House got for Tresarrieu. When you have done smart ar*e come back.

Edited August 8, 2014 by racers and royals

[montie]

I would check Rye House v Workington on July 5th same day as Tayac to see what facility Rye House got for Tresarrieu. When you have done smart ar*e come back.

Maybe you should also check the rain off fixture between Glasgow and Scunthorpe where RR was being used for both Howe and Piper

 

Not that it has anything to do with you really but as Scunny have been granted a guest you are wrong!

[hans fan]

 

 

Scunny have been granted a guest you are wrong!

just because scunny have been granted a guest doesn't mean he's wrong , but it's the same old cack with the rulebook 1 rule for some 1 for others ,

[proud panther]

Would have thought that Scunthorpe would have used a National League rider, because they will win this easy against a depleted Panthers side, & it would have been good experience for him. Haven't got a problem with them using a guest, & fair play to David for coming on here & explaining the situation.Will still be at the match, because the racing is always good at the EWR.

[hans fan]

Would have thought that Scunthorpe would have used a National League rider, because they will win this easy against a depleted Panthers side, & it would have been good experience for him. Haven't got a problem with them using a guest, & fair play to David for coming on here & explaining the situation.Will still be at the match, because the racing is always good at the EWR.

if baby bjerre is fit and rides the same as the last match this will be a lot closer than people think ,